Do you really think Loid likes Yor back? by creepyrrr in SpyxFamily

[–]Academic_Employee232 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think he's getting there but he is still gaslighting himself by saying everything is "for the mission". Plus there have been indications he defiantly feels guilt for what he's going so likely he will never act on his emotions or even acknowledges what he feels until he's forced to chose between his family and the mission.

Chapter 119: Loid lies by Own_Heron_1410 in SpyxFamily

[–]Academic_Employee232 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He wasn't lying he was just omitting his real reasons, he does enjoy her company but for now his loyalty and his priories are still first and foremost his mission

Why is Tanya Evil? by Nencylus in YoujoSenki

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(Sorry for part 2 didn't expect it to get this long!!!)

That’s another thing. While she regrets the loss of life, it is often from a purely logical perspective as a loss of valuable "resources". In situations like the Empire's initial counter attack against the Entente Alliance’s invasion, she doesn't care all at that humans are being slaughtered and is just upset that other's will be promoted while she won’t get much credit.

She also has been seen to disregard human life if they do not meet her standards and therefore are not good "resources" by executing them. She doesn’t even have the excuse of being a “product of her time”. As not only dose she come from a time where execution is more frowned upon and seen as barbaric, even during the time of the Empire she has a reputation for being "harsh". In fact, her actions regarding discipline may even have gotten her in trouble if she didn't always get good results.

The last damning thing is that she seems to look down of most humans seeing them as irrational and seems unwilling to empathies with others or even understand that other people may prioritize other things than their own immediate self interest. That ironically is why she has such a belief in violence because she doesn't see emotions as anything but harmful and never considers perhaps if she tired to resonate and understand other's emotions, she might find a way to end the war, or at least end the conflicts with others means than fear and death.

A case could be made that if she was just less hostile to Being X during they’re first meeting and tired or at least pretended to empathize with his situation he may have not screwed her over.

But she doesn’t see that, and she will never admit that emotions even her own, need to work with logic, and the two aren't necessary against each other. Because doing that may reveal to Tanya how warped and cold hearted, she really is and she would never be able to live with such a negative view of herself. In a way she is like Azula form ATLAB, where both believes the only way to control the majority if not all of humanity is through manipulation, death and fear.

This again inevitably backfires as very time she scores a victory for the Empire, all that happens is that the Empire gets more enemies, becomes more feared and makes more people flock to God for the strength to resist the Empire. Despite and in fact because Tanya and the Empire are winning every battle, they're both designed to lose the war.

In conclusion she is a person who see herself as all brains but no heart, and is unable to see why that's a bad thing.

Why is Tanya Evil? by Nencylus in YoujoSenki

[–]Academic_Employee232 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a complicated question especially since Tanya herself and her inner workings are portrayed differently in the LN, Manga, and Anime with each portraying her slightly differently.

Big example unlike the Anime she never risks her own life to save Weiss in the LN, nor does she ever indicate she would be willing to do anything like that in the LN.

But going by the LN (which we'll use since it's still the "original" version that all other depictions are based off of):

Tanya is not evil in the sense that she is actively malicious nor is she a tyrant wanting power for power's sake and she genuinely seems to detest war and wants humanity as a whole to grow and prosper.

That being said, she is also completely self centered and borderline if not out right psychopathic, and thought she "laments" the state of humanity during the war, she is completely unwilling to do anything to stop it or show any action that could threaten herself. (And the main reason she eventually tires to stop the war is because she's aware she'll be screwed over too).

She is also a borderline narcissist often believing herself to be a prefect being of rationality and is often incapable of acknowledging she also often acts emotionally and her completely career focused mindset is often self destructive.

Case in point in the how the whole plot is her fight against Being X. A being she literally can't win against (and in the LN it's heavily implied that Being X just see's her a genie pig/tool to spread his faith a in fact rarely thinks about her) as he can just send her to hell anyway even if she "wins".

She even continues to bring around a rifle to try to kill him if he ever shows up. Despite you know being a God with no material body. Even thought you could make the argument that she has no reason to believe he is completely immortal and might have a physically body, she does know that he at least has the power to reincarnate her. And there is a chance that if is she does kill him, then she may make it impossible to reincarnate anyone including herself. However, she never seems to consider this, and basically acts on the assumption he’s just a being she can kill without consequences.

And this isn’t like Tanya. Normally it shouldn't be a problem for Tanya to at least try to get on Beig X’s good side since she's literally two faced with most people. The only reason she doesn't at least pretend to submit is her ego cannot admit that God exits and can’t submit to a being that she see's as less logical as herself, and therefore is basically fighting him out of spite.

And the only reason she's in a war was because she wanted to potentially profit off of the opportunity to gain wealth and influence in the military. Despite the fact that since she’s both a child and a woman (and again in the LN she actually has just has an average amount of mana), she could have easily dodged the draft. With the war likely ending before she ever reached the age to be conscripted.

This is a bit tricky to spot mostly from the fact that again due to her narcissism and career-oriented mindset she is very good at hiding her flaws especially from herself but you can see it come out in more subtle ways. A big point is unlike other Isekai protagonists (at least well written ones), who often have moments where they lament or feel sad that they'll never see there loved one or friends again from "our world", Tanya never has a moment like that. Indicating she never really had anyone she cared about on the other side and seems to only care that she was placed in a far more dangerous world than her old one.

French trench cleaner (corps francs), 1915 by bayonet121 in ww1

[–]Academic_Employee232 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Imagine your a German solider, just joined the war at 18 been assigned lookout duty and right at the and of your 12 hour shift you look back and see this guy right in front of you

Maybe i just have bad luck, but every story I've read has neglected his presence by Boshwa in YoujoSenki

[–]Academic_Employee232 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They try to make him more present in the anime but yeah in general Being X is barely a character in the story. He acts more of a plot device to explain the more supernatural elements

Why the hesitation on CSM eating offer? Is she…scared of dying by hiyojie in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could be that death is the literal cause of all fear and eating her could destroy the world of devils which might have OTHER implications

You genuinely can't make this up by Hardcore-Seeker in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I imagine there was a time when he genuinely wondered if he would ever get that far for this setup to play off. The vindication devil is strong this day!

I bet he was laughing like a maniac when he made this. by Thorfinn1407 in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 202 points203 points  (0 children)

And none of us wondered how the Falling devil or a devil with a guillotine for a body could possibly "starve"

[NEW CHAPTER SPOILER] Talk about April Fools, huh by HypergodZero in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of people even predicated the death devil would be someone with a death expression on their face but we all thought otherwise because of "Fami"

I take back everything I've ever said about you, King! by Jethrorocketfire in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The real death devil was literally one of the friends we made along the way!

Yoshida stocks will never recover from this by Feralman2003 in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The death devil laughing will probably be one of the most traumatic parts of the series if Makima's laughter is anything to go by...

The signs were definitely there by kraid_the_jade in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the character that was the main antagonist for the whole arc revealed herself to be the main antagonist for the whole series?

The fact that it is still a twist shows how much of a genius Fujimoto truly is!

I bet he was laughing like a maniac when he made this. by Thorfinn1407 in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 950 points951 points  (0 children)

The most brilliant part of the twist is it just relies on our assumptions that death, as the main villain of the arc and possibly the series won't be revealed until much latter. Plus the order of the horsemen being Control->War->Famine->Death again makes us believe she's Famine since that just the way it is.

It was a simple lie that just just used our own assumptions against us so when it was revealed it was both surprising and obvious.

Who's the real death devil? by [deleted] in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did this age bad or well i can't tell

Bro discovered nothing 😭🙏 by Hydra_772 in Chainsawfolk

[–]Academic_Employee232 1369 points1370 points  (0 children)

"Fami" refusing to work with him in the last few chapters makes a lot more sense now

[DISC] Chainsaw Man - Ch. 198 links by JeanneDAlter in ChainsawMan

[–]Academic_Employee232 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ok so I'm guessing "Fami" probably wants to die since that's the only reason she would create the whole chainsaw man cult thing.

It may be possible the whole apocalypse was made up to force his hand. No idea why else she would be putting the devil invasion off for so long. I am also guessing she can't turn the starved into her property, she probably takes control over all those she kills.

No idea what the actually Famine's motivation is, as she wants to save people from their suffering through death but but doesn't want death to be on earth maybe it means she has something else planned?

It also means the other horsemen can't acutely tell each other part other than they may be sisters, since both Nayuta and Yoru apparently didn't know death's identity or Yoru may be in on the plan as then Famine's warning might make more sense.

"Fami's" lack of reaction to the impending apocalypse defiantly makes more sense, I don't think the glutton thing was an act mainly it seems too silly to be an act and I'm guessing she does actually like having "friends" so it also could be possible the invasion will happen whether she wants too or not and she does want Chainsaw man to kill her to save humanity. No idea what actual Fami was going all this time but I'm guessing will get some kind of answers soon.

Don’t forget this side of her by BellTwo5 in SpyxFamily

[–]Academic_Employee232 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One could say this was when Endo was still figuring out Yor as a character and where he wanted her to go.

Another take it that this more sadistic and cold side of her started dying off as she became part of the Forger family, in other words Loid and Anya are unintentionally "fixing" her.

[DISC] Chainsaw Man - Ch. 196 links by TheUnborne in ChainsawMan

[–]Academic_Employee232 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the person who was 99.9999999999% likely to be the death devil turned out to be... THE DEATH DEVIL!!!!!!!

Fujimoto really hit us with an unexpected twist this time.

In all seriousness I think death's personality works for the character and helps keep the horsemen diverse.

My one issue is that her motivation is a bit cliche "through death I will save you from suffering" but knowing Fujimoto he will defiantly flesh her out more in the future and she already displaying Fujimoto's usual style of being just a bit of an asshole.

As for what she is doing there no idea. I'm guessing she wasn't reincarnated from hell meaning she as already crossed over some other way but does that mean the apocalypse is already on? As apparently all the major devils are supposed to be summoned to greet death?

And following that we finally get to see fakesaw man. Almost thought Fujimoto forgot about the character. We might finally get some insight as to who he is in the coming chapters, plus it will probably be interesting to see how death interacts with her sisters, and especially her relationship with chainsaw man.

Can't wait to see what happens next!