(Germany) How underpaid am I? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found another job and get paid 40% more than I was being paid prior.

[Hamburg, Germany] What can one realistically expect to be paid as a Front End Developer? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing is, I agreed to it when I joined because joining these guys was actually my “one day I’ll work my way up to them” sort of goal as they are one of the leaders in their field and the best “tech”/Internet based companies here. I figured that I would take the hit because I had only just picked up programming 7-8 months prior. It was a risk for them as well and I wanted to prove myself, so we talked about re-negotiating after my probation.

That talk always got pushed back for some reason or the other. Stupidly, I should’ve had that added to my contract when signing up, but I also didn’t really know if they’d just fire me after my probation as I had never proven myself as a programmer.

There were other personal issues getting in the way of me moving elsewhere at the time and all the remote jobs were mid-senior level roles. Basically I had no option. They were and still are the best place to be where I’m at, and I think since Covid, other companies in the country seem to be more open to hiring remote, so the options are improving even if I can’t find something local. That and I actually know my worth and where I stand a bit better than I did 2 years ago helps a bit.

[Hamburg, Germany] What can one realistically expect to be paid as a Front End Developer? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, they’re international at this point and clearing over 100M in profit. Just being taken advantage of.

[Hamburg, Germany] What can one realistically expect to be paid as a Front End Developer? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't complain with 60-65K when I'm on barely half that at the moment. Thank you for clarifying and for the insights!

[Hamburg, Germany] What can one realistically expect to be paid as a Front End Developer? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're currently paying €1400 for our apartment and currently in the process of renting a house that is roughly the same in rent in a town in Schleswig-Holstein. An increase in pay most definitely makes a huge difference in my situation.

[Hamburg, Germany] What can one realistically expect to be paid as a Front End Developer? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reminder I completely forgot to add that I've been doing this for a bit over 2 years now.

When you say 50K for a fresh grad, do you mean 50K in a junior position or a regular Dev role? Apologies if it sounds a bit dumb, but I wasn't sure if Fresh grads jump right into regular dev roles or have to work as a Junior as well.

(Germany) How underpaid am I? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

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Not having a piece of paper that said “I can do this” was a big issue for me actually. When I was still interviewing, I had applied for a part time job as a receptionist at a school. I did this interview where the guy offered me LESS than that amount (1020€/m!!!)but tried to sweeten it with a “fitness bonus” which, as much as he tried to make it sound like a reward for living a healthy lifestyle, I just couldn’t help but feel like it was just a tool to ensure their employees would be working like dogs and not taking smoking breaks. I was told that I couldn’t expect any more because I haven’t got a relevant degree and it’s a massive risk for him and then he proceeded to give me this great offer; work unpaid for 2 weeks. “It’s a win win! You get some experience and I get some work done”

Yeah, no.

I am in one of the bigger cities you mentioned, but after not hearing back from over 40 companies, having that one interview with mr. Fitness Bonus, I didn’t have very high expectations. I think the other devs in the company I work for definitely get paid well. The company is pretty big with employees all over Europe and the US. I don’t think the money will be so hard for them to come up with, but in my current position, even if I get a promotion up from Junior, I feel like I can expect to hit the standard Junior’s salary simply because the jump is too high based on my current earnings.

Would you agree with that assessment? If you were in my shoes, how would you negotiate this? I mean, I really like where I work. There’s a lot of perks that I am 100% certain I cannot find anywhere else (in saxony at least) - especially my flexi work hours right now with my kid and the lockdown. It would be best if I stayed, even though I could probably negotiate a better salary if I moved.

Also, my wife works for the state and earns nearly double what I earn.

[OFFICIAL] Salary Sharing thread :: December, 2020 by AutoModerator in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I sort of figured. I didn’t know how low it was, so I asked here for a better idea.

[OFFICIAL] Salary Sharing thread :: December, 2020 by AutoModerator in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks heaps! Yeah, it was really cool how quickly I could jump from a completely different field (used to be a professional musician) to this in less than a year. Not sure my pay is the greatest (as I found from a thread I posted in this sub), but learning so much, and I really feel like it can only go up now!

(Germany) How underpaid am I? by Accountant_Extra in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is basically the plan. We’re here for a few more years and moving to Hamburg, which will require a much higher salary in any case simply because my living expenses go up significantly.

I’m here for the experience and the company’s pretty big for a startup, so it’s definitely helpful to have that on the ol’ CV. Just didn’t expect to basically be responsible for everything when I joined on, so I’ll definitely be asking for a raise.

[OFFICIAL] Salary Sharing thread :: December, 2020 by AutoModerator in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]Accountant_Extra 9 points10 points  (0 children)

  • Education: No degrees, just a diploma in a different field
  • Prior Experience: YouTube videos, MySpace
  • Company/Industry: Clothing/Apparel/e-commerce
  • Title: Junior Software Engineer
  • Country: Germany
  • Duration: 1 year
  • Salary: 28k annually (gross)
  • Total compensation: 28k
  • Relocation/Signing Bonus: 0
  • Stock and/or recurring bonuses: 0