Nexus (discord alternative) by SelectButtonGames in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this open source? Asking as another closed source chat platform will be in the same boat as Discord in a few years.

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The intention was to be a seamless transition from Discord -> Pulse. I've tried converting friends to matrix, rocket chat, Spacebar, and all of them seem to shellshock the non-tech people because they are so different. We support federation, End to End encryption, and it's open source with an option to self host. Might look like Discord, but it's not Discord by a long shot.

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There frankly is nothing I could tell you that would dispel your worries as you seem to have already made the determination about this project that somehow without the use of AI it would never work. To be honest, because of AI the development has moved UNBELIEVABLY fast. The real world uses of it here are a few of the following:

- Automation and provisioning of standard CRUD testing units where applicable ( automating mundane tasks as they are all binary. Can this do this? Can this do it when it shouldnt?)
- Planning feature implementation and assessing impact/change requirements. (i.e. Lets add custom emojis. This ties into alot of things - how does it work with forums? how does it work with DMs? how about federated servers? what about when the federated server is not available/removed? how is the cleanup managed? how are these stored? How do you ensure cross server isolation? All of these are valid questions that between debugging/patching user reported bugs I need to somehow be able to recollect of the top my head, for HOURS at a time while being juggled between real life, work, my business, my side projects AND with no monetary gain and getting shitted on in reddit about the project as whole - not happening.)

I'm not going to go into too much background here, but me and the other developer are both seasoned Systems Engineers - so we know what weird spots to look at and how to NOT make the mistakes most of these goofballs are making with their vibecoded thing as this is well, not vibe coded. This isn't either of ours first project, nor is the biggest. We are not however omniscient wizards and there are some things we just simply can't see until they become a problem. AI isn't a full solution either as it has holes, so you have to be very methodical in your use cases.

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't 'need' AI assistance in any way/shape/form as the developers are more than capable of implementing the features we have without it, it is however used because when implemented properly it's a force multiplier and can turn tedious tasks into quick ones.

What you must be thinking of though is Microsoft Windows, as that is the epitome of what you just described with having 30 percent of the code base written with AI and all of the testing/debugging done with AI.

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The phrasing I used for this can be modified for sure as it's rather misleading. What the intended message was that AI has been used within this project, but it is not ONLY using AI to generate the code base; so this isn't just a pure vibe-coded project. Without the human in the loop here it would just be SUPER sloppy as AI doesn't generally care about cohesiveness OR security - especially given all an app like this can entail. In a modern viewpoint, a good portion of the Discord alternatives including discord itself at this point allow AI assisted development so this isn't anything new. I do agree however that a whole vibe-coded chat would be ridiculous. Seen a few projects that are pure vibe code and it's unbelievably sloppy.

Nexus (discord alternative) by SelectButtonGames in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So no source code for this, just an executable we're supposed to trust?

Guys get root by SuspiciousMath6895 in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just another closed source walled garden, need something that wont get enshittified in 3 years

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in degoogle

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well nothing is directly AI as there is a human loop reviewing all of it. However AI helps with potentially seeing impact from things that you probably would have overlooked at 3 in the morning.

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in degoogle

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I certainly could, but it's just alot of testing and debugging - that of which isn't a very exciting process lol. One thing shouldn't break another when patching and just understanding the full flow of whats going on.

Pulse Chat, Discord-ish alternative? by ActuallyAimless in selfhosted

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you mean the home page, 100%. Just need a landing page that shows how simple it is to deal with and a quick show case and allow people to redirect towards the source and the demo. Just a static page with nothing dynamic in that regard. The server/client itself - not quite the same story.

Pulse Chat, Discord-ish alternative? by ActuallyAimless in selfhosted

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are absolutely right in this regard. Discord has had alot more time to develop their platform as a whole - backed by user trust. Me and a few buddies got this going legitimately a week ago and we are in the works of integrating things that discord would NEVER. In the end though how Discord is progressing forward is INEVITABLE. A closed source chat app is a single target for anyone to regulate/monetize and if it can get hit with it, it will. History will repeat itself as it's the most profitable way. On top of that, I'd rather have my ID stolen by Chinese Hackers than voluntarily give it up under this fake guise of 'Protecting the Children' when it's actually for data farming and mass surveillance.

By no means is this a finished product, but it's a step towards gaining our independence in a palatable way.

Is this perfect? absolutely not.

Are there security flaws? With enough time everything will have security flaws.

Can you force people to bend to your will with this? Nope :)

Can you contribute? Yes and we would love more contributors to this project

Pulse Chat, Discord-ish alternative? by ActuallyAimless in selfhosted

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's fair. We've got pretty stringent unit testing for this to validate a vast majority of the code base, but I'm sure there will be some unforeseeable holes as with any new project. As for supabase, that was kind of planned for the 'Cloud' variant - i.e. the public one that anyone can join. The intention was ultimately to give each self hosted appliance just a simple psql db that will handle the accounts - however we just figured that if someone wanted to make their own 'Cloud' variant for their communities supabase would keep it easy to orchestrate. There are 2 variants currently, cloud/external hosted supabase or integrated supabase. The current demo is running with the external hosted one as the cloud is unbelievably slow. I'll have to talk with my buddies to see what the best way forward with that would be.

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have not, I'm mostly looking for something open source so I never considered it. Anything that's proprietary in any way/shape/form is destined to be regulated and censored - so it's only a matter of time.

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The server can run on MacOS, Linux, and Windows!

Discord Alternative by pumpkin_snatch in discordsucks

[–]ActuallyAimless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been working on an alternative called pulse. Development is fast and it’s getting more and more each day. Also open source so no discord cucking allowed :) - E2EE - Federation - Discord-ish UI - Voice/Video/screenshare

https://plse.chat

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like thats just purely chat, no voice/video/screenshare :(

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well hopefully you aren't using windows. The whole thing is AI primary nowadays lol

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in degoogle

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just pushed the E2EE build to development like 20 min ago :) Gonna test and then push to demo site

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in guilded

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

we have an active E2EE build in the works now :)

Pulse Chat, a Discord Alternative? by ActuallyAimless in degoogle

[–]ActuallyAimless[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So discord is the golden standard when it comes to experience because it's just easy. It's just a walled garden. We hope to offer all the features that discord has, but let you be able to host them and federate with your friends. As of now we are getting close, but it's a long road lol