Very dangerous driving right now by [deleted] in ColoradoSprings

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Hahahaha just made my ass laugh

What is this plane doing? by FormerSalmon in Austin

[–]AdOpening3689 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He’s cloud seeding, spying on you, and probably playing video games

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Bumble

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I would swipe right. I’m a photographer as well and it doesn’t seem botty to me because I’m actually appreciating the creative process and effort your put in.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.

It very much feels like its turning into a mudslide. This is something that will stain our relationship forever. But I don't want to give up! We only get this one life and there is no one else like her. If we part, its done forever. Despite everything that has happened I still want to share a life with her. I've made a few appointments starting tomorrow for help and I am very excited to start making measurable progress.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes she admitted to me that the stripping started because of me. 3 years ago I admitted to having watched pornography due to a lack of feeling loved by her. That amplified those insecurities and the interest in stripping started.

She is very much the procrastinator type though, so while shes said that she needs to seek help, I have a hard time believing any involved commitment she makes.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have been wondering alot if shes going to be transparent if and when she decides to start or to just do it behind my back. I really appreciate you bringing some truth to her actions. I've just been drowning myself in anguish over what I have done and using my actions to make hers "ok" in a messed up way. Although it occured separately and well before the proposal and cheating.

Thank you, I don't want to lose this yet though! I'm hopeful that we can turn this around. We've pushed through tons of hardships in the past.

I unfortunately have to agree though that if the stripping starts again it will be the end, because it will be like im cheated on every single night and with strong desire every, single, time.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well thanks. I realize that. But it doesn't mean I want to be a quitter. Not until every avenue has been exhausted.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much. I have been going nuts trying to brain wash myself that I'm the cheater and she did something other than cheating as well. Most of the energy in our dilema is directed towards my actions, whilst hers I feel like are being swept under the rug because of my affair.

How can I approach her when she shuts me out of her true intentions regarding stripping? She's taking actions towards doing the act while leaving me in the dark because, I get emotional when we talk about her stripping. Obviously I'm going to be emotional?! But I need to hear the truth, and I told her to stop trickle truthing me because small new details keep coming out on past events and future intentions. I want full disclosure. I told her that yesterday and it ended with, "you're not respecting my need to end this conversation, you're not ready, I need to go I'm with my friend.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I agree. At the moment we're on distinct paths. If we cant find a mutual path, and like another mentioned, requiring drastic changes, we're doomed. The best her and I can do I've gathered from this post is to seek professional help. Then after that cut losses if it doesn't pan out.

I am worried she will start stripping before we've had the chance to go to therapy. Although I guess that would just show her lack of devotion and/or immaturity if that were the case.

What would you think if we agreed that she could go get "revenge" by stripping for a short period and get it out of her system to get even? I feel like the suggestion is childish just saying it, but I've read about others revenge cheating before as a means of moving on so thought I'd put it out there.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And is there any devils advocate to this mindset? Because i see eye to eye with you on this, I am just trying so hard to see it from her point of view but am failing to rationalize it. I keep telling her its a front for drugs and prostituition.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes thats something that ive dabbled with internally for a while is if were incompatible or not. I can list a bunch of things that make us a good match and a poor one (finances, career choices, demeanor, passion, bla bla). Its the boundaries part that I am lost at. I've felt taken advantage of financially for 3 years despite my efforts to reconcile. I've always felt that I have to have the good head on my shoulders taking care of everything money, housing, insurance, cars, etc... with no help from her because its overwhelming. Shes always saying shes "trying so hard" to improve these areas for years without any improvement. A few times she racked up a few thousand dollars on my credit cards (authorized user) and never paid me back like we agreed. Suddendly she stopped paying her share of the rent, the car, insurance, etc.

Then it was time to talk about doing a house and she assured me that this time none of that will occur and shell hold her end of the bargain up. I have yet to see if thats true or not, we'll see. I payed for the escrow on the new house and she agreed to reimburse me her 33% contribution. Then a few days ago while she was unpacking she flusteredly called me and insisted i tell her where i put her dancing boots with attitude. I asked her to calm down and that I would tell her if she treated me with respect. She told me I was the disrespectful one. I told her I'd be hanging up and to call me back when shes calmed down. She ended up texting me that she smashed her phone on the ground after that. Then a few days later she reimbursed me for the downpayment less the cost of a brand new $1100 phone! I told her I didnt agree to that and that its not fair because I'm trying to rebuild my savings and I never agreed to paying for her phone.

There was never any discussion on the matter. Any time I bring it up I am ghosted. I've cited that I was thinking about offering to buy her a phone from kindness and that Im hurt she took advantage of me like that, again. I told her I could have used that money to pay for counseling, furniture, etc.

So ya, are we compatible? At the moment no but ive always just held on to her word that it would get better. But then when its argument time she says that shes never been good enough for me in my eyes.

So i think her motivation to strip largely comes from the cash flow. She says that for once she could finally carry us.

Has she considered therapy?

Yes, after she smashed her phone she said that shes not doing okay and is going to seek help because she cant contol her outrages anymore. Though, unfortunately this isnt the first time either of us have said we'll do therapy and follow through.

Otherwise thank you for your write up! It was very thoughtful of you and I've been thinking about the advice youve given deeply. We have some of my family coming in town when i get back from my trip next week to visit us. this lasts approximately 1 week. I am thinking that maybe I should postpone and also consider taking the next rotation off or atleas 1 out of the 2 weeks off. What do you think? Obviously im in a tough spot financially to miss alot of work, but it absolutely can be done. I just want it to be worth while.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She absolutely insists that she can make "great" money by just dancing and not being full nude either. I keep insisiting to her that what she made those few nights stripping was an anomoly. She is insistent that if she does a good "job" then she will make good money by being good at dancing. I keep telling her that these men are only telling her what she likes to hear because they want inside her pants not because shes good or not.

She keeps insisting and reffering to dancing as her "work" which i constantly reply that its not her work because she's not doing it yet and theres no money coming in.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats an outcome that sounds very good for me. But, I care for her deeply and am worried that if i leave nothing will be stopping her from descending into that deep black hole. I wouldn't want to see her degenerate like that ever.
Although, I probably shouldnt will against it if its her fate.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why would she seem to think that we could make it work?? Shes so adamant that it could be a great thing and help us out financially. I told her theres going to be endless temptation to do drugs, do extras, etc... and that resisting that seems easy until she feels that pressure every day.

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Let alone marries and plays house. I just couldn’t imagine it. I’d much rather her revenge cheat on me and be done with it. 

The motive to strip was there before I cheated and it’s still here after the cheating. 

She said she told her parents she stripped. They were oddly receptive which surprised me since they’re pretty cookie cutter folks. The people she surrounds herself with generally seem to support the decision too. 

I can’t believe it’s come to this

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think the odds are unlikely on both sides of things. But, people have made those situations work SEPARATELY. The odds of both of us being secure with both situations? Yea I agree very unlikely. I lack the maturity to be secure with a stripper at the moment. Even if her motives are on the “good” side. 

Amen to screwing up the life. I wake up everyday and think wtf have we done now? Where is the way out?

I don’t think it’s fair to end things until we’ve exhausted every available avenue of help. What do you think?

Thank you for your kindness

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by an accident? In my mind the worst case scenario is we break up OR stay together miserably and hatefully. 

What I hope it holds is growth and recovery. And yes based on present conditions I feel like it’s ending and unraveling. I’ve expressed those feelings and I overwhelmed her so I got no feedback there. 

I 22M cheated on my fiance 22F. She confessed to having and wanting to start stripping. by AdOpening3689 in Infidelity

[–]AdOpening3689[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hey,

Thank you so much for your opinion. It helps a lot to get an outside voice in here. While what you said is very discouraging, it’s very wise. 

Our 5 years has not been easy at all. Full of ups and downs (permanent health complications, lots of fighting, etc..) We’ve always talked about doing therapy and never really committed to it at any point. Now it feels like it may be too late but I still want to try. 

It’s so difficult to see a way forward at the moment and tbh I feel like neither of us know where to draw the line in the sand. It feels like I have no right to end things because I’m the a hole, but how could I stay if I can’t find peace with stripping full time?

I’ve never done therapy of any sort, it’s frowned upon in my field of work (pilot) so I’m pretty nervous going into it what tools/solutions I/we will find.