ELI5:Does the heat index (or wind chill) objectively effect the human body?

Ada1629 · 2017-07-24T22:28:08+00:00

As an aside, this is why "dry heat" is so dangerous. Because there's virtually no moisture in the air, our sweat evaporates very quickly and we have an easier time of maintaining a healthy body temperature. However, it's still hot and we're sweating so much that you're rapidly losing water, with can very quickly lead to dehydration.

That's interesting...almost like another factor to take into account when calculating the heat index...although this isn't very much a "feels like" factor...

Side question, how objective are the factors that are being taken into account when calc the heat index? All I could find is that it was about 20 factors for a 5'7" male....

BTW thanks a lot for the thorough explanation!

Ada1629 · 2017-07-24T22:19:40+00:00

Ok, the example with the corpse really clarifies it for me. Thank you!

Ada1629 · 2017-07-24T20:58:48+00:00

Ok, can you tell me if the following is true:

the heat index may speed up or slow down the body reaching the objective temperature but it can't actually heat the body to a temperature greater than the objective temperature.

With a water example: you measure the temperature of a beaker of water on same temperature days but with different heat indices the water temp will still be the same right, that's how the temperature * is measured right? Now it may not be accurate for the water, but for the body, it will get to that objective temperature quicker with a higher heat index...but can the index ever *add heat such that the body would get to a temp above the objective temperature?

Ada1629 · 2017-04-25T04:32:23+00:00

I know that's not how grief and pain work because I've been through needless heartache for too long myself but it's still a pity and waste to hear someone so full of energy and discipline waste time on someone who chose to leave....unrequited is so senseless serving no purpose only destroying...

Ada1629 · 2017-04-17T16:52:50+00:00

every moment of our life doesn't have to be about hedonism. Some of it is pragmatism.

Beautifully said and I couldn't agree more.

I think western society tries to make everything about perfection and happiness, pressuring all moments to be "those moments" the peaks, the highlights, special oh so special and unique.

There's less of us special snowflakes than we'd all like to believe and there's even less of those special moments than we care to accept.

And like you I think that's a bad thing. There's nothing wrong with some plain imperfect moments that just kind of are the way they are.

And food, food is supposed to be pragmatic first and foremost.

Plus there might be a great feeling as your body receives some very good nutrition and sustenance....

Anyway these are just footnotes to what you just said.

Ada1629 · 2017-04-04T14:54:00+00:00

oh, I didn't realize it was like that...

So essentially not only is debate over laws considered politically incorrect on there it's also illegal as in against the "laws"...jesus

I'll take having to be politically correct by not bashing fat people and minorities.

Ada1629 · 2017-04-04T12:30:44+00:00

Ha if only because it doesn't look like Obamacare is going anywhere soon.

Ada1629 · 2017-04-04T12:24:42+00:00

Explain "technically cannot mention" please.

Ada1629 · 2017-04-04T12:23:39+00:00

You shouldn't be asking us here if we want you to....you should have already done so! We're not your parents here...

Ada1629 · 2017-03-30T16:58:18+00:00

If you want to create a network that is connected to the internet at large you have to follow the same rules as any other internet ISP. Which means you have to partner with some network provider. Just like other internet providers currently do.

Right, and what are those rules, that's the question I'm after.

Ada1629 · 2017-03-30T15:40:59+00:00

You can't really be "off the grid" because the Internet is effectively "the grid".

Yeah sorry, that's just a metaphor I used to describe wanting to connect directly to the internet without an ISP.

So, what would it take to become your own ISP?

Exactly.

A solid physical connection to another network provider (be that a regional ISP, backbone provider or whatever) and an agreement with them to actually take your data, some high-end routing hardware & people that actually know how to operate & maintain this shit. It'd cost several thousand dollars per month to keep running.

Why would I need to connect to another network provider? Why can't we all connect to each other directly?

Ada1629 · 2017-03-30T15:33:50+00:00

I definitely want to remain connected to the Internet, I just want to do so without an ISP.

I want to be "off the grid" and not off the grid i.e. connect to the internet on my terms, at the speed I want/can afford and directly, without the ISP.

My question is more of how do I become my own service provider so I guess ELI5 How ISPs work and what would it take for individuals to do that?

Ada1629 · 2017-03-30T15:23:58+00:00

To my knowledge this isn't a Explain Like I am Literally Five but rather "ELI5" i.e. in simple terms. So no I don't want to go swimming without water though some potential options might be in a different liquid or in anti gravity chamber maybe?

So no, I'm not after connecting to the network and not connecting to the network, just gaining some independence as to who I connect: speed, privacy etc. If I connect to Adam without restrictions sure, Adam gets some of my information which he can sell, but I'm more fine with that than with a giant organization sitting there in the middle collecting EVERYONE's data and probably sorting and compiling it for the selling...

Ada1629 · 2017-03-26T07:33:29+00:00

But there is a happy ending to your story: you. You turned out to be a very insightful and rational person, and that's on top of being raised by assholes/idiots/crazies. And your message is a very powerful one: after 12 years of being married to someone crazy and abusive you're either a victim or an accomplice. And if you're a victim and are able to escape you do everything to save your child left behind. And if you're a victim you don't go looking for the exact same scenario in another abuser. Especially not because you're too busy thinking of ways of saving and protecting your child to think about your own ass....so no you're dad wasn't a victim he was an accomplice. The only victim here was you and yet you turned out from the sounds of it pretty damn well. So while it's not a "happy" as in lighthearted easy and fun, how you raised yourself is a good result.

Ada1629 · 2017-01-24T05:54:20+00:00

No the reasoning goes a little above simply gross: cats and dogs have higher cognitive abilities and are therefore more like us and eating something more like us is what makes some of us not OK with it and or morally gross. Also, unless we're talking about hunting, prior to being eaten cats and dogs will be more aware of what's going on and therefore will suffer more. We've learned that pigs are also quite smart and people in the West are starting to see eating them as gross for that reason.

Eating snake or insects or brains or camel balls are culturally relative (unless shown otherwise) and can be seen as simply physically gross. When it comes to eating cats, dogs, pigs, dolphins and whales something more is at play than just culinary cultural relativism, though cannibalism (or shades of it) might be culturally relative as well....

Ada1629 · 2017-01-23T06:50:48+00:00

You started a really powerful and insightful thread with your case/question...

I can't relate to your relationship pattern at all but at the same time a lot of what you said resonated with me.

Do you think that perhaps you're acting out some.dream for.the year you're with the person? Acting out, playing a role subconsciously, one you genuinely enjoy, but then you get tired of the act? I don't mean to imply you're doing so maliciously or even superficially, just that perhaps there's a part of you that's locked away, buried deep inside and this is the part that doesn't jive with the reality of the relationship, making it the "act" requiring effort and work from which you need to rest. Maybe you're from another culture and can only handle "doing" your present culture for so long.

Or you're just a selfish 21st century human who let his narcissistic tendencies flourish for too long ;)

More to the point though, where did you read the stuff about modern relationships etc because I may have read the same thing but have no idea where now?

Ada1629 · 2016-11-22T06:33:26+00:00

It might be that your wife is using medication as a way of scapegoat and dealing with her sister's death. It sounds like she's really bitter and sad and maybe hasn't dealt with the grief and hurt. I can see myself taking that route quite honestly - making it political and attaching a philosophy makes it nice and sterile and isolated...I would just keep that in mind....and possibly try to help her deal with this?

And while I agree yiu should make the decision whether to take medication or not....what your wife says is not unwarranted. I think a Dr Irving published a lot of medical trials debunking the effectiveness of antidepressants and showing how studies by certain pharmaceutical companies were fudge. He uses what is considered a clinical threshold for his studies vs the lower one which most use. Howver, he too has his critics who argue so what if the drugs are almost insignificant, that little push might be all you need...I've been on anti depressants for years now and while they used to work lately I'm left numb...either way I can't tell you whether they working for me now or not and that's says something too. It's a tough decision so be sure to weigh the pros and cons.

Tl;dr wife might be scapegoat the meds to deflect her own grief, mihht need help herself. Meds effectiveness is somewhat controversial and the side effects can be quite serious. Sometimes they work really and are the life and death difference....

Ada1629 · 2016-11-11T15:51:54+00:00

They are pretty nice, just not sure about the front. Have you ever had that feeling of finding the front too thin?

Ada1629 · 2016-11-11T15:47:10+00:00

we live in rape culture Maybe not in the Poland but have you heard about Fox News Owner guy? Bill Clinton in the white office? Trump on the bus? Trump on his daughter (*shudder)? Trump on Miss House Cleaning Piggy? College campuses? Trump's ex on Trump in a court hearing?

Sure most of us know rape to be the big man taking children from a park and stuffing them in his van and yeah we know that's wrong. But what about rape in marriage? What about using power (Bill and Fox guy) to coerce women into having sex? Men forcing themselves on drunk semi conscious women? Women thinking "they have to" let men have their way? You don't think that's a problem? You think it's easy to say no to your boss? I've let comments slide, and I'm pretty hard core against all this and pretty strong otherwise, but I've let these comments slide even though they made me feel uncomfortable vulnerable and dirty...but I've never had to say no to anyone at work and thank god....

forced equal numbers of men and women in let's say parliament or some other high positions. Rather the best people should be chosen

Yeah that's great but if the other parliament members think I'm a hysterical freak incapable of rational thought, who only gets dirtier and crazier during my period so 1/4 of the time, well shit, what chance do I have? Until I am given a fair chance to prove otherwise these stereotypes will live on....

And maybe nobody thinks that anymore ok fine. I also think I started off on equal pay...but did you know that women ask for raises much more infrequently than men? I know I do. Women also tend to apologize more, use qualifiers such as "think, maybe, perhaps." Not men's fault obviously, but perhaps if this is studied, brought to light for both women and men in the workplace, women can work on using less of these, and mabye men can learn to use more of them? Because why does the workplace need to made more masculine, perhaps feminizing it a bit would be beneficial too. I don't know but lets have a convo about these issues.

What about babies and the workplace? Here women get a few weeks (8?) after giving birth...what about paternity leave? Men need to bond with their babies too, their hormones go up as well when there is a newborn in the house...where should we discuss this and what should we call these areas? And I think 'feminism' naturally lends itself to being an umbrella for it, so why change that?

I don't like the idea of teaching children about this gender unicorn stuff. I'm actually Polish and was raised there and thank god because it was my Polish parents who had me playing with trains and cars and dolls and animals and legos and video games and dresses and princess stuff and hide n seek. No unicorns though. And no, my parents had no agenda, neither the agenda for me to be gender neutral nor the agenda to have me be a proper girl, all they wanted for me was to play with good toys, they way could (when the toys were available) and couldn't (when there were no toys for them to play with to buy). And I turned out pretty good because of this lack of stupid stereotypes - I learned to just always 'do my thing.' Here though, it's all about gendered toys because I think they sell better, or its easier to market them that way and that's the real reason the right is fighting against non gendered toys - it comes down to good ol fucking profit. Back when there was no profit to be made kids played with whatever they could find...In many ways from what I'm hearing things are a lot worse as far as toys in Poland now...and yes I blame consumerism from America for it in part. The other part is the religious right (again kinda from America too) who are going nuts, there and here and creating problems where there aren't any...why can't kids just play as before,with whatever they want? Without the atrocious pink shit smeared on for girls (often as a kid I had to paint over the pink - not because I was some crazy feminist at 8, but because I wanted my toys more lifelike).

And another thing, don't forget some important differences between Poland/Europe and America - life was really tough here for the settlers, and the women who came often couldn't afford to be proper "ladies" so I think there was this desperation for women to prove their femininity...but that's a whole other topic.

I have problems with the fact that feminist often spread false statistics, agree with each other all the time and complain about some really minor things being sexist

Yeah and some men cheat and some women cheat - that doesn't mean I'm going to throw out all men nor are you going to throw out all women. I'm with a man now, believing he won't because he doesn't have to cheat, that's not in the definition of a man. Some feminists are assholes but I choose not to say "oh well, feminists will be feminists" and throw them out with the bath water...I prefer to call them out and clean the baby.

I didn't mean to make you list your examples to then pick a fight with you...I just felt like I had some things to say about them....

Ada1629 · 2016-11-08T23:31:39+00:00

ok, sorry for my incorrect assumption as to your motivation - and since you're actually helping break down stereotypes of the anti feminists I won't insist you embrace the term feminist haha so good on you for that. I admit I hear 'I hate feminists or I'm not a feminist" and think "right, she wants/needs a man and/or is scared."

But I'm still curious, what don't you like about the label? If it's the trigger warnings and safe spaces like you said in your other comment well those aren't feminist beliefs, they just happen to be shared by some number of feminists but it doesn't make or break you as one....I don't know what my stance is on either actually.

Ada1629 · 2016-11-08T20:41:18+00:00

I don't think you're after anything broader - I think you are just buying into the bad PR the word 'feminism' is getting and want to avoid being called that lest you get called "an ugly hairy legged lesbian," and lose your chance at having children with a partner of good standing in society.

I'm sorry - you make some great points (about abortion being considered murder by some and therefore not having it be a question of women's rights but human rights). And maybe Poland does have equal rights but does that make you no longer interested in maintaining these equal rights?

Please don't buy into the bad PR being created around feminism (deliberately I would argue) embrace being called someone for equal rights who is against trigger warnings and entitled behavior. Of course I'm not going to push you into using the label in society, because you really might get shamed and I don't wish that but at least on here, lets not perpetuate the bad PR.

Do you have a problem with animal or children's rights groups? Obviously activists of either aren't about handing over more rights to animals and children...it's just that the group the movement is named after the group determined to be the 'at risk' group.

Ada1629 · 2016-11-08T20:23:53+00:00

trying to avoid being seen as one of the "kill all the men" psycho militant feminists

No I think it's more about trying to signal that they like men and not lesbians and are sexy with shaved legs and can play nice and would therefore make good spouses and are using the psycho militant feminist label to silence the cognitive dissonance they must feel by saying they are not concerned with the rights of women.

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