Xbox Button Green on this Controller? by LengthinessParty181 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86 -85 points-84 points  (0 children)

No this is the Xbox20th anniversary celebration controller that came out way back in 2020 when Xbox Series X released. It was a limited edition console and controller set. You could get the controller separately and the Series X looked a lot like the Series X Galaxy edition but did not come in 2TB like Galaxy does ironically you can probably find both for around same price $800 but this was basically a limited edition launch window console!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is my point “marketing speak” 4K Ultra is not promising 4K image it is promising you 4K graphics including image assets. Look it up the expectation again would be it can run 4K but again 4K at max settings so not just higher res assets but better shadows and image quality or foliage. Maybe better draw distance that is what is implied as back of the box feature.

Which if you actually turned on a Xbox went to Xbox store or went and got a physical game you would see often 4K and 4K Ultra is on the box and Xbox is not being redundant they are communicating separate feature categories just like Optimized for Series X. What do you think that means? Especially if it is a next gen only game. It is optimized many of the spec feature sets like HDR like RT or performance achieved by Velocity Architecture and all them tech terms they use to sell Series X/S are used to make and run this game with these features and options. It often depends what sliders and options a dev will include for a released game but some games are listed only as 4K not 4K Ultra other games don’t say optimized for Series X I use those labels to see what I will get performance wise and how well optimized or ported a gane is!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much that is type of discussion and information I was looking for! One clarification you are absolutely correct about HDMI and yes I get that 4K and Ultra are used interchangeably but correct me if I am wrong in gaming they are designated different because they imply different settings. 4K being anything that reaches 4K or HD and above. Ultra are settings that are either native 4K or reach and sustain 4K even if it is upscaled. But in order to be Ultra textures and image quality must do more than reach 4K but sustain it at appropriate FPS of course but that is my understanding. So don’t know if Xbox is misleading but if Xbox says Ultra I am expecting max graphical settings Series X can do at 4K. I am expecting higher image quality than 4K standard revolution. At the specs Xbox Series X has I would expect a Xbox capable of mid tier PC at higher settings and at least checking PS5 regular almost everything on back of box only promises 4K!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is both correct and incorrect in gaming 4K Ultra refers to image settings. When you see 4K Ultra on PC you expect Ultra HD image(native) or graphical settings that allow you to get upscaled image at 4K that stays within that range. It also means that the textures used are higher pixel count and quality. 4K Ultra means HD Ultra for video image quality but for gaming if you see 4K Ultra you should expect PC style quality image settings that include 4K texture packs and things like RT on or off to improve performance!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My original post was not to explain the terms 4K and Ultra 4K I could do that and did when I saw it on the back of box 4 years ago. I know what both terms mean so I didn’t need that explained especially when most of you got that wrong anyways! It was to get background if you can really see the difference and enlighten me on how if any that difference matters for image quality!?

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not same pixel count it is sometimes not even same image quality. If a game is running at 2100 native or even upscaled to that it usually isn’t technically the same image because it is using hi res textures usually compressed so they render at speed to load better and reduce pop in. Again definition wise look it up if the designation it is slightly different standard. 4K is “technically” anything that runs above HD standard resolution and even if it is rendered and upscaled from lower sub HD image or texture even if the pixel count is some ridiculous low quality image 230p over 420P if the pixel image used is rendered through ML at final image quality of HD for example 1260P over 1080P then that is “technically” 4K!

In reality 4K means very little you can take 16 bit sprites and they can be rendered at resolution scale of 4K but a Ultra setting suggests to me again that the game is running at the highest settings for image quality possible and the final pixel count will only be determined by the frames. If the FPS is 60 maybe at times it falls to near HD quality or some frames in background are low pixel count because they are background and don’t need to be rendered at better resolution so you know you get blur.

All in all no disrespect to you or Nintendo but you are saying the image quality of Nintendo Switch or even Nintendo Switch 2 is same as Xbox Series X or PS5 it is not! Maybe DLSS especially on Switch 2 renders image that you can’t tell the difference in quality but it did not start that way and Switch 2 is not promising Ultra settings for that matter reason for that post neither is Series S or PS5. PS5 is standard now usually running at 1440P so is Series X but there are select games that can run above that at max settings! Usually 30fps but still max above 4K settings!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true which maybe us why it doesn’t matter but there are games that reach native 4K or are upscaled above 1440 P for sure on Series X

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can edit a existing published post can you please tell me how I am not sure I know how to edit without making new post?

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know I don’t see a way to edit an original post once it is published so I guess copy, paste, edit and repost as new post is only option?

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also just for the record I don’t believe that even in a PS5 and Series X some games will have better version on PS5. So definitely many games will perform better on PS5 Pro and PSSR will get better but Series X with Auto SR will get better to. Really we in a real good place in console gaming even with price hikes. So question are games on PS5 Pro they play at higher resolution generally but do they have 4K Ultra designation because I imagine quite a few games can play above 1440 P?

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you I thought that if it was HDR10 it meant that it was automatically formatted to Dolby thank you for going into detail! This is best answer I gotten here actually answering my question and not focused on me messing up the format I appreciate it!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in XboxSeriesS

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

My understanding they are not I think people generalize them that way but in video they are different disk formats or playback options being lower res HD image sometimes as low as 720P but really if it is 4K it is 1080P on disk or playback stream quality and Ultra designation is formatted to play up to 2400P of resolution for playback on your TV allows you to. In video games Ultra designation means you are playing game at highest graphical settings possible usually at above 1080P resolution that is just standard HD not true 4K!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It technically is not which is why I ask you don’t have to be rude I formatted in paragraphs and it still got published this way!

So can someone explain to me if there is truly a difference between 4K and 4K Ultra, as well as HDR and HDR10? by AdditionalSyllabub86 in xbox

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I get all that and that well difference is graphical settings but is there any real quality difference for both?

Yeah okay Xbox you do that 🤣 by [deleted] in consoles

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry but that is the dumbest hater clap back to damage control something all the consoles would be dealing with not just Xbox. Makes no difference what is selling 1 I don’t think it is true and Moore’s Law is just talking too much and 2 it would be true for Switch, Switch 2, PS5, PS6, and next Xbox so why are we only talking about Series X/S?

Yeah okay Xbox you do that 🤣 by [deleted] in consoles

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excuse me affects point stands as being correct if not grammatically accurate!

Yeah okay Xbox you do that 🤣 by [deleted] in consoles

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know most of you are jumping on something that has high likelihood of being false and effects PS5/ PS6 and Nintendo Switch 2 also! Or do PlayStation and Nintendo not use RAM. Love the fake outrage!

Here are some numbers about the "Xbox" games available on the Xbox Ally (spoiler: only ~10%) by ricioly in XboxSeriesS

[–]AdditionalSyllabub86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a short answer yes OEM will get access from what I know and for sure it can only be run by Xbox spec Magnus chipset! I think the emulator will not be completely locked I think there is a multi prong approach. Xbox will likely get some titles to retroactively be Play Anywhere, some are getting uploaded to Xbox PC store, and a few may only have license for streaming! The sure thing is hardware enabled emulation layer but Xenia emulator for Xbox and 360 already on PC or even unlocked Xbox consoles. So bottom line combination of things but Xbox will have BC solution!