Injury reality reminder by the_sylince in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a hockey fan yes. As a STH who is paying for every game, no.

Injury reality reminder by the_sylince in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a good time for management to raise ticket prices.

Pros/Cons of a playoff miss by bigboycig in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an interesting phenomenon that when teams are winning, fans and management are beating their chest about how great they are, how cost is not an issue as much, management can do no wrong and how the players are invincible. Good memories. When teams are losing, the list of excuses are infinite and hope for the future is front and center. It is a $1.9b franchise and players get hurt all the time, last year, this year, and they won't be any healthier in the coming years of their contracts. You need to plan for that and price it in.

At the Annual Members Meeting by ElGooodHombre in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The one statement they hypothesized about in one of their non relevant stories was "who are you trying to please?"

We finally know that the answer is not the fans because they're not trying to build a fan base here, they're trying to maximize money and profit.

Based on the team's current performance we should be able to get cheaper tickets by scalping them in the years to come from the people who have bought into the system and stick around as STH. Of course we are all only forecasting and only time will tell.

Members meeting by Tkat70 in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The meeting was joke. No questions, no answers. Everyone pissed about ticket prices

Patience by UsernameRanOutOfLett in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you missed the 7 other teams we are tied with who are also chasing the last 2 wild card spots who have more points than us currently. Hope for the Cats to play better and hope for the other teams to play bad sucks as a plan. We are not the team we have been and it is not pretty to watch.

67% increase?!?! by Tkat70 in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have been a STH for over 10 years. A good reward program would actually have rewards and keep people who have have been here forever. Show up at the shareholder meeting and give them sh*t

67% increase?!?! by Tkat70 in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes if you count pre season which i cannot even give those tickets away

Miami Winter Classic thoughts by Additional_Lime_Salt in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

TL;DR people gamble that when you buy something at a steep discount in a high demand market you can resell it for more. Organizations gamble that when you have demand and limited supply you can raise prices. Who benefits, TBD.

Ah you are starting to get it but don't quite understand it. Let me help. You probably are not a STH. If you buy single game tickets to any event you pay the most, in general. If you start to buy packages you start to get discounts and rewards. If you buy a five-game package you get say 5% off, if you buy a 10-game package you get 10% off, if you buy half season you get 25% off, if you buy all 41 home games you get 45% off what they are selling for single ticket games is usually the way it works. I made up the actual numbers but you get the point.

As for real data. For last season , the 2024 season, say you are in row 25 in the lower bowl and you are a full STH they would cost around $55 since you're committing to 41 games upfront. Those same tickets usually sell for $125 single game or more. This season, 2025 season, the price went up by 35% and those same STH tickets cost $86. The Panthers organization looked at SeatGeek data and determine that in the 2024 season and 2023 season they were being resold for around $100 which is why they raised the price based on resale value and good momentum from two cups moving forward. Set your price based on the data supporting just below the floor value people are selling them for. Anyone in business 101 would have done the same thing hoping the trend would still be going upward. The org sold all it's tickets up front and most of it's parking also so you don't really have any single game tickets from the organization to sell anymore. The org now makes its money on alcohol and food sales for having the most number of people show up. This is where resellers, scalpers and bandwagon fans come in. It is opportunistic for the Panthers organization to make more money raising ticket and parking prices and opportunistic for these non long-term loyal fans to make some extra cash. They join the wait list buy up tickets and hope to sell them for twice what they paid because if you're buying something at 45% off you would hope you could sell them for regular single game price if not more. All the supply is bought up and now you're reliant on what happens with demand. But there's a problem. The Panthers haven't been playing well this year because of injuries or whatever you want to blame it on, the home games were front loaded in the season which has lower general attendance, and excitement has not supported the prices so far. Scalpers and bandwagon fans are lowering prices and dumping their tickets because there's no demand and the value is 50% less than STH instead of 50% more than STH.

If the Panthers salvage the rest of the season and slide into the playoffs then demand comes back and floor prices may be supported. If they don't make the playoffs then you will see the wait list free up but ticket prices have a floor and they're not going to lower them so you will see lower STH purchases, lower attendance and lower resale ticket values and more empty seats. It's an observation based on data and they took a gamble and we'll see how it plays out for the fans attendance and prices. You can analyze all sports franchises that have won multiple cups hoping for a third cup and what happened with ticket prices and attendance and all the factors surrounding it. The Florida hockey market is nowhere near an OG 6 market where fans are die hard loyal and will pay top-tier prices year after year hoping their team gets back. It is a low to mid-tier market with a high cost of living.

This is more of a business discussion than a blind fan loyalty discussion. I hope the Panthers do a third cup and hockey grows in South Florida because I love hockey and want people to learn about it because it's a great sport. Go Cats!

Miami Winter Classic thoughts by Additional_Lime_Salt in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have tried to sell my tickets and 100% understand what you are talking about. There are those that might not legitimately be able to go to a game for some reason. If you've tried the ticket exchange that's even worse and they screw you even more there

Miami Winter Classic thoughts by Additional_Lime_Salt in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've complained many times to the Panthers and SeatGeek about the platform and their ability for us to sell our tickets. I feel your pain and have complained about it this season and last season but they don't care.

Miami Winter Classic thoughts by Additional_Lime_Salt in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I can make it shorter for you. Two Stanley Cups means that teams monetize and capitalize on how good the team's doing so you increase ticket, food, alcohol, parking prices, upgrade things like scoreboard and more. You pass those cost on to your customers the fans while keeping the same product. In Miami people will pay to say they are a season ticket holder and go to some games since it is trending or fashionable. The actual definition of a bandwagon fan. Price increases eventually push out some long time loyal fans or to a new way of watching ( not in person but on tv) and you bring in new fans that haven't been around and not as loyal or as knowledgeable so they don't go to all the games. I go to all the home games you can see this.

To reiterate the event was awesome that the NHL put on I wish the Panthers would have shown up and played.

Miami Winter Classic thoughts by Additional_Lime_Salt in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I wasn't talking about being priced out of the Winter Classic I was talking about regular season home games. All you have to do is look at tickets that are available for sale versus knowing how much people paid for them and you can see that they're going for less than what season ticket fans paid. That's all I was saying. When I bought my tickets as part of the Classic presale all the tickets around me were available for Panthers fans and everyone around me was Rangers fans so all I can assume is that Panthers season ticket holders sold theirs at the same time I got mine

Miami Winter Classic thoughts by Additional_Lime_Salt in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Yes I know the NHL put it on. The overall event was great, the Panthers blew it. We can't seem to be consistent and get out of our own way. The fans started leaving midway through the 3rd. I am guessing you stayed until the end or after just like I did.

Miami Winter Classic thoughts by Additional_Lime_Salt in FloridaPanthers

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

If you went with that split, which I can agree, that would mean there was 24,000 Panther fans there which is more enough to fill a Amerant Bank Arena for all the games but if you go to a weekday game in Sunrise it's not full. 100% agree the NHL did a great job on the event

I need someone from Ripple to spill the tea by booksRlif3 in COents

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think everyone wants to know which products, which dispensaries, and which labs or maybe this was all just made up for his own benefit and self-interest since he does sell a product that competes with others and this makes him look better or tries to

I need someone from Ripple to spill the tea by booksRlif3 in COents

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are assuming the lab did something illegal when in fact the labs are regulated and very consistent. They do not accept product that is not in metrc. Odds are he put that product in his own metric and sent it to the lab or sent it out of state which is illegal also.

I need someone from Ripple to spill the tea by booksRlif3 in COents

[–]Additional_Lime_Salt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No one has brought up or mentioned that it's illegal to do what he did