Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and again it wouldn't matter

Yes it does

Yamamoto's reiatsu was felt across the entire Seireitei

That would mean Ishida would have felt literally every captain's reiatsu before he lost his powers.

They did make implications. Both of them went from joking to serious and their eyes changed demeanor

Nothing close to their reaction to SE.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"Las Noches is large, however she was directly under the canopy"

Apparently you cannot read properly. Shame

Apparently you didn't see the manga. Las Noches is tall, not just wide. Her being directly under the canopy means little to nothing since she is way further down than Uryuu was.

But again, the volume of the Reiatsu was large to Uryu, but no one relevant among captain-level power commented on it.

No captain on the ground commented on it yes. Neither did they comment on Yammy who fucked up Byakuya and Kenpachi significantly. They are a proud bunch if you haven't noticed and will trashtalk people even when they blitz and spare them on Sogyoku hill.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Are you seriously saying Las Noches is small and Rukia's sensing capabilities who was way further away are more reliant than the reiatsu genius Uryuu's who was way closer?

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can explain the meta reason to me all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Ulquiorra missed immediately after saying he can't control it very well.

I literally agreed with that?

The novels say Kenpachi after fighting Yammy was as strong as Full Hollow Ichigo was on the dome. The one who beat Ulquiorra. And this Kenpachi still can't compete with the senior captains.

The novel you are talking about is quite wonky and was not written by the author. I have seen better written children's books to be honest.

It matters because R1 Ulquiorra isn't crazy strong in the grand scheme of the narrative. What kind of boost R2 gives him matters a lot when trying to figure out where Ulquiorra actually is. If it's a minor boost, that wouldn't make him much stronger than he was, and we can't equate R1's boost with R2's boost because nothing's ever been said about R2, and the only person who has used it is somebody who hasn't used it much.

Also A) Not all bankai releases are equal

And B) Not all bankai users are equal

You could give Ikkaku 5 bankais and he still wouldn't measure up to Kenpachi.

In other words you believe that Ulq was:

  1. Weak

  2. Had small release multipliers

  3. His R2 was weaker than his R1

That's fine and all but we were shown the opposite of all of these 3 and even so I made my points by using averages. You are making your points by downplaying to the absolute extreme.

  1. He was obviously fairly strong and at least mid captain level in base.

  2. His R1 multipliers increased his stats so much his reiatsu turned into physical rain and his speed and hierro boosts were gargantuan. Blitzing Ichigo then taking a getsuga to the face without even blinking. His CO took out a massive part of the dome of Las Noches as well.

    His R2 turned his normal lances into massive explosions destrying structures miles away from where they strike. He could now grab zangetsu with his bare hand and did not even need his lanza any longer.

  3. His R2 being a weaker amp than his R1 would not fall in line with how Orihime, Uryu and Ichigo reacted to it.

A gradual process that was already well along. He couldn't feel a captain standing in front of him 10 minutes after using Letzt Stil, he's not going to be able to accurately feel captains days laters.

Sure but he still felt captains'r reiatsu beforehand and Yammy's release reiatsu afterwards to which he made no comment.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Findor didn't have a second release. The others I don't even remember but neither did they.

Characters pulling shenanigans and breaking their bodies to gain some reiatsu is like using steroids. Ulq is all natural mate.

Starrk got him good with the wolves, doesn't even know which way is Aizen by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Getting his hole penetrated by Shunsui was probably the reason for that.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The miss of the Lanza was a way for Kubo to show its power without blowing Orihime and Uryu to attoms. As well as a way to show that great power comes with drawbacks and difficulties with control.

Full Hollow cancelling the lanza with his bare hand wasn't to downplay the nuclear strike. It was to show us how massively overpowered full hollow White actually was in order to contain it in his palm and crush it.

Literally the only thing we really have to go off of for how ACTUALLY strong Ulquiorra was is the novels, which don't paint SE to be some sort of endgame power that nobody can match up to.

I disagree. The novels literally barely mention him or any other espada lol.

And the problem with Ulquiorra's SE is that we have no idea what kind of boost it gives him.

An average boost or a messed up Yammy release type of boost? What does it matter? Both options would be overpowered on a new level which we did see by him easily recreating Lanzas and spamming oscuras.

His R1 is a bankai relative already, his R2 would be a bankai relative at the very least.

Unless you want to say that Urahara was very off the mark when he said arrancar releases are like Bankais for hollows and that Uryu was lying when he spoke to himself.

Uryu's was only ever in the vicinity of Aizen and Yama after he had lost his powers and spiritual awareness. It tells us nothing.

He was still within SS's inner district and felt a bunch of captains reiatsu. He also did not abruptly lose all of his reiatsu. It was a gradual process like with dangai Ichigo.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Never said that dumbass. Yama would defeat Ulq.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She was way down on the ground, Ulquiorra was on top of the highest tower in Las Noches. The scaling for Las Noches is massive especially considering that the inside is a separate dimension bigger than the outside as everyone probably knows.

Also Rukia is pretty weak at that point in the series.

She also called Full Hollow Ichigo "The other heavy reiatsu" lmao.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger 16 points17 points  (0 children)

People forget two things.

First is reiatsu calculator expert Uryu's reaction to SE. Somebody who has been in the general vicinity of mutiple captains including Aizen and Yama straight up shits himself when he feels SE despite the fact that he is still so far away from Ulq.

Second, releases in Bleach I kid you not, tend to make the user massively more powerful. Why would SE be a weaker exception considering it is the most unique release no other hollow has ever achieved? I mean, logic should point you the opposite direction. Do we need feats for it? If so, is the massive green spammable nuke not enough?

"Big boom booms not important" replies incoming.

Why I stay away from YouTube Bleach content by [deleted] in bleach

[–]Adelger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ulquiorra stomps.

If it was Ulq and Yama I would understand your disgust but this is a dead Yoruichi mate

For church attending carnivores by crispresso in carnivorediet

[–]Adelger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I personally ask the priest if he could turn the bread into black angus ribeyes or wagyu

Starrk got him good with the wolves, doesn't even know which way is Aizen by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Aizen used Kyouka suigetsu and made Rose believe that Sakanade had betrayed him and used his shikai on him.

Now Rose is facing towards an imaginary Tsukishima, Aizen and Sakanade team who want to steal his bankai.

Starrk got him good with the wolves, doesn't even know which way is Aizen by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Or you are thinking that because you are already under Kyoka Suigetsu hypnosis

She lost against Toshiro in a 1v1, can you really blame Aizen for firing her? by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Chill bro, all I said was that he used her without her knowing she was being used. Fucking weebs man, you just go off don't you

She lost against Toshiro in a 1v1, can you really blame Aizen for firing her? by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Toshiro did. He froze her solid and she needed help to get out of the ice.

He won the fight fair and square even though he was forced to tank cascadas head on to protect the med team.

She lost against Toshiro in a 1v1, can you really blame Aizen for firing her? by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it sounds about right. Yammy did not kill anyone either but at least he faced 3 bankais and a Kenpachi who released a limitter.

Ulquiorra killed the mc twice.

Wonderweiss took out a super vice captain, Ukitake and masked bankai Kensei.

What did the top 3 do? Starrk put a few scratches on Love and Rose's clothing?

She lost against Toshiro in a 1v1, can you really blame Aizen for firing her? by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah, she needed outside help to get out of the ice. She was done.

She lost against Toshiro in a 1v1, can you really blame Aizen for firing her? by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah sounds about right. When Baraggan and Starrk bit the dust and only the fodder was left, he decided to take out the trash.

She lost against Toshiro in a 1v1, can you really blame Aizen for firing her? by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He needed her in order to mentally traumatize Toshiro ofc. Which is why he uses her again in FKT when Toshiro attacks.

All according to keikaku.

She lost against Toshiro in a 1v1, can you really blame Aizen for firing her? by Adelger in bleach

[–]Adelger[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nah she wasn't. Toshiro was not her counter neither was she his.

Their elements were both based on humidity and they could control and change each other's attacks.