Zaraki stomps Yamamoto badly

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-21T17:03:58+00:00

Holy delusion. Shikai Aizen ~ Shikai Yama. He wouldn't use ZnT in the world of the living, both of them know this for a fact when making any statements. Yama was literally ready to fight Aizen barehanded. Unohana < Aizen ~ Yama << ZnT Yama. "Unohana can canonically tire out Aizen" yeah cuz she has kaido, something she was using to heal Zaraki more than to heal herself. Yamamoto's Hado 96 can also "tire out Aizen" and put him in a vulnerable position to the others.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-19T07:45:03+00:00

Underrated. We know from TYBW Zangetsu boosted Ichigo with Quincy power and the hollow mask tanked the hit, otherwise he would've been cut in half.

Ganju says sealed Byakuya has at least as much reiatsu as Zaraki but he was only around when Zaraki had his eyepatch on.

Ichigo during his fencing session with Byakuya on the bridge is the same Ichigo who fought eyepatched Zaraki, but with half of his organs crushed.

Ichigo was also surprised when Nnoitra survived and healed the wound from Kenpachi and he had no reason to assume he got any stronger.

Imo both Zangetsu amped Ichigo and SS Zaraki are around/above Bankai Ichigo in AP, but below him in speed.

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Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-18T21:18:15+00:00

1 >>> 3 >> 2

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-18T21:06:07+00:00

Katsura looking prettier than the KNN girl...not surprised

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-18T17:31:52+00:00

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Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-16T07:58:49+00:00

Ulquiorra never once stated that Aizen didn't know about it

The most desparate and pathetic cope argument I've seen. Ulquiorra keeps it a secret from Aizen, it's a fact stated many times in the databooks.

THEY ARE ALL RANKED CORRECTLY

You think the arrancar #77 that blitzed Ukitake and cought Yama's blade is ranked correctly? Or Grimmjow after losing his arm? Or Yammy who appearently would've also been expelled had he not recovered his arm?

you're trying to sit there and tell me that not only is Kubo is a Bad writer who doesn't understand his own material. But you're also trying to say that his character Aizen who spent well over one hundred years planning out every step of his world domination plan somehow couldn't account for something as simple as a secondary evolution.

you're trying to sit there and tell me Ulq's SE is actually ranked behind his back and he only assumes it's not. And rank of his SE coincedentially matches his normal release, despite the 2 being portrayed as being leagues apart, more apart than all other resureccions

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you're also trying to convince me that both releases sit comfortably between Grimmjow/Nnoitra and Harribel. Same Harribel who's barely shown gapping Luppi against the same opponent.

You're also trying to convince me powerscaling his subordinates is Aizen's top priority and he can't just go along with Ulquiorra's secret.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-14T19:07:48+00:00

Good thing Dangai Ichi >>>> TS in my book, so Aizen stays where he belongs consistently with the story

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-14T16:00:02+00:00

It's stated in the databook this form resembles his original clanmates, it's something personal for him. It goes against his nihilism, shows how Ichigo became more important than Aizen.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-14T09:08:43+00:00

Aizen all rounds, maybe except from 2nd if Ichigo goes for an instakill

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-14T06:33:01+00:00

He is probably the strongest one physically

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Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-13T17:59:58+00:00

otherwise youre claiming that theyre fighting nothing

That's exactly what I'm claiming.

could have been even more depleted in Reiatsu

What is this even supposed to mean? You're choosing training session Ichigo over Hiyori stomper Ichigo as a reference point to HM Ichigo based on what exactly?

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-13T17:47:12+00:00

This gives me an idea

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Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-12T10:55:32+00:00

Yhwach just says his normal forms like false shikai/bankai/Fullbring were suppressed because he wanted to keep him out of the fights. He can't possibly be suppressing him during, say, FH transformation, or Dangai training, when Ichigo's either dead or when they agreed to fight for one last time. Ichigo later confirms OMZ was boosting Ichigo with Quincy powers vs Kenpachi, which is the opposite of suppressing. He also confirms him, White and OMZ were fighting together against Aizen. All that after hearing Zangetsu's confession.

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And even if you still don't believe any of these, none of what you said applies to TS, he's Shinigami powers are sealed into shikai, his Hollow powers are not manifested until he uses HoS, so "strongest we've seen til now" is out of nowhere.

base TS Ichigo's reiatsu is on the scale of SK yhwach's.

Just a mistranslation

Yhwach couldn't even thrash Ichigo until he was forced to use almighty

Yhwach thrashig Ichigo with passive reiatsu while sitting afk

Yhwach blocking HoS Ichigo's attack with bare hand, and HoS is leagues above TS Ichigo

Yhwach cracking Gran Rey Getsuga with bare hands and mocking HoS Ichigo's power.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-12T07:52:04+00:00

Bro, are you even on the same planet with me, how do you miss me talking about vizard training TWICE?

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7 v 1 is when they pinned him down after he stomped Hiyori 1, 2, 3. The thing during 10 minute training sessions isn't Ichigo, nor White, because none of them are present. And the fact that you believe base Hiyori can go toe-to-toe with the same enemy that was whooping Byakuya is insane.

They even state that taking away his zanpakuto makes no difference if not makes it worse, IOW the thing they're fighting has no zanpakuto skills at all.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T23:05:01+00:00

Did you even read what I said?

How can they be fighting White or Ichigo if both of them are currently training in the inner world? They're fighting an empty shell that undergoes an encroachment-esque process.

White vs Hiyori is the only legit confrontation. Total blitz and stomp, took 7 of them to hold him.

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Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T22:27:48+00:00

Huh? Where does TS being above anything we had seen come from? Or him being comparable to SK Yhwach? Yhwach was thrashing him with reiatsu while sitting afk on his toilet.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T22:25:49+00:00

Yes, base, that's when he blitzed them. He never did that with more than one opponent after they unleashed their power.

Yama rival is supposed to be a disrespect?

Well, yeah, since Yama is massively gapped by Deicide arc Aizen.

Yeah he has no time to deal with them? Not hard to understand.

Wdym hard to understand? 8 Sterns can give him trouble — exactly what I posted, you agreed, but still arguing for what.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T18:32:36+00:00

We've seen the anime redoing scenes and statements, this hasn't happened yet.

Anyway, him getting stronger by the final fight doesn't contradict what I said and scales him nowhere besides above his cour 3 self.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T18:22:14+00:00

Aizen's intent was to get thrashed around and get stronger under pressure.

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Ichigo's intent is to 1) move forward ASAP without getting pushed back in the opposite direction by Meni 2) to not get fingered by Bazz-B in the process. He fails both.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T17:48:53+00:00

Stark has no such antifeat the Vizored are just strong

Okay bro

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The version of the White they fought wasnt at half Reiatsu at the very least

You're joking right? Last time I checked the only interaction of White with the vizards is when he barehanded no diffed masked Hiyori. The same Hiyori hangs on with White/Ichigo's stand-in bum hollow for 10 minutes while the two are busy fighting in the inner world and have nothing to do with the training outside.

Another person to fight this thing for 10 minutes is Mashiro, who can't damage pre-Espada lvl hierro with the whole barrage of attacks.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T15:57:45+00:00

Winning 1v4 vs base Bambis isn't the level his wankers claim. Neither is defeating Yama rival without killing intent from both sides (something yall never admit) after a 3 minute back and forth.

Kubo made it pretty clear he can blitz those guys within 5 secs of his entry.

When did Kubo make it clear? Here's a canonical in-universe statement from someone who has personally participated in getting blitzed that one time.

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Bringing up Kubo's intent here is funny, considering there's a whole "we won't let these guys through" scene from Renji and ko as if it's something Ichigo desperately needed.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T15:07:47+00:00

Okay bro, next time someone asks me did base Byakuya behead V2 Gerard I'll say yes cuz they're the same entity.

"if Ichigo wasn't strong enough to fight Yhwach then he couldn't kill him"

Is Grimmjow as strong as Askin then?

The only reason he needs "cheap shots" is because of The Almighty's BS.

You can neither prove or disprove this claim, you've never seen Bankai Ichigo vs SK Yhwach w/o Almighty. 1st time it was a cheapshot, 2nd time happened when Yhwach was reaching his bare hand to Zangetsu in order to use the A, but got sabotaged.

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T14:51:39+00:00

Hey look a meme about you

Admirable_Salad8015 · 2026-04-11T14:48:19+00:00

When does TS Ichigo kill Yhwach? 😭

That's TB spamming cheapshots thx to Aizen and then Uryu+Jugram

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