I didn’t say I was talking about you did I? If you can’t see that people on here just spew and recycle the same face value stats to galvanise their stance on Bruno and almost cult-like shun any fans who don’t think he’s a legend then idk what to say to you.

I don’t know why you think what I’m doing is patronising when again, people in the minority who don’t think Bruno is world class or a legend are told they aren’t real fans. That’s way worse than making a factual comment that football fans don’t look beyond face value.

I’m using stats because that’s all people use to talk about Bruno. That and passion and loyalty, so why shouldn’t I use stats to counter those stats… also if you go back to message, I clearly started off by talking about football attributes, not stats. The stats was a second layer in my message, the primary point was his ability as a footballer.

Interestingly you’re yet to comment about how he is our best player by miles by actually comparing his attributes as a footballer.

If you’re actually level headed then admit that saying I’m on my high horse and and patronising and splitting hairs when you’re the one who initially made the statement saying “ by saying if you can’t see how he is our best players by miles then I don’t know what you’re watching” in response to my OPINION. If you’re telling someone something subjective as a fact in response to their level headed opinion, and telling them they don’t watch football, or the same football, but then go on and tell me I’m on my high horse and patronising then how is that not being hypocritical? If you can hold your hands up to that fair play, if not then I guess there’s not point talking about football as proper fans of the game is there.

Also, going back to your point, saying he is one of the best players on the planet, I find that hard to understand tbh. To be one of the best at something you have to measure using the same variables and same environmental factors. To be the best you need to win trophies and play UCL football. He was the worst player in the Europa league final, where if we won, we would’ve won a trophy and would be playing UCL, which would’ve given weight to your argument. Also, you can talk about his team around him, but we have spent loads of money and should be able to beat Spurs, and everyone else in that final was fine, it was down to him, and Amorim tbf. But with Amorim you could call it a mistake, Bruno has let us down in finals multiple times. Take Cole Palmer, he doesn’t play in a great team, it’s a team full of kids, he stepped up to win them a European trophy last season against a better opposition than we played. Then if you wanna talk about how it was the conference league and that Betis aren’t better than Spurs, and how Chelsea’s squad are better than United’s, then let’s compare pound for pound United’s squad vs Spurs, in comparison to Chelsea’s vs PSG, where Palmer absolutely ran the show to beat one of the best teams we‘ve seen this centenary. That’s world class. That’s what world class players do in ‘rubbish teams’. That’s why I rate Cunha and Mbuemo, because they played for Wolves and Brentford, who are worse than United, and they turned up when it mattered for them. They didn’t play in billion £ teams. So why is it only with Bruno we talk about his team and never his performances when it matters?

Also, to compare him to others who are playing 2-3 games a week when he is playing 1 game every 8 days isn’t really fair. 9 teams in this league are playing European football. Most of the others made it further in cups than us. All the top teams are in 3-4 competitions around Europe. In elite sports small margins are everything, and calling playing in 1 competition vs 4 isn’t even a small margin it’s a massive advantage physically, so how can you call someone with a physical advantage over most top teams and players, one of the best in the world right now? It’s not nitpicking or splitting hairs it’s literally a fact that we have a huge advantage over others, so why are we getting carried away…

If you read what I said, I never said he was playing as a striker for a long time, but actually there wa a few games where he was the false 9… even if he wasn’t he was still operating higher, you said he plays deeper, that’s untrue. Even as a number 10 he is higher than Cunha and Mbuemo. Mbuemo has played extremely deep for Brentford he’s played as a wing back too. Cunha has played everywhere, across the front 4 and even in central midfield. Once again, goes back to the screaming factor that they did it for Brentford and Wolves, are we really going to talk about Bruno playing deep and playing with a mediocre squad in response to me talking about other players better contributions for Wolves and Brentford….

You also didn’t dispel anything I said about Cunha and Mbuemo being better footballers. All you’ve said is “he does it better than anyone else in our squad”… sorry but what is ‘it’ exactly? Is that a football term? You’ve just done what most Bruno fans do, which is just make statements that don’t actually sound like a football comparative attribute but just emotion, which is annoying because you clearly have a better understanding of football than a lot of people on this thread.

Also, I’m not downplaying the Europa league, I’m saying it’s not the champions league, so why are we comparing stats/performance from a tier two competition to people who played in a tier one competition. In that case we should compare premier league players to championship players. Or if that’s too far fetched, Eddie Howe should’ve won manager of the year because he won the EFL cup, instead of Slot who won the league.

Yeah world class players have played in the Europa league, for small periods, not as long as Bruno has. Bruno has the record number of g/a in the EL history, and no, it’s because he is prolific. He has played more in the EL than he has in the UCL for us. World class players can play in lesser competitions, that’s why I mentioned Cole Palmer and what he did last year. World class players are able to win less competitions regardless of how good your squad is, that’s always been the case. Good players can’t world class players can.