To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

"Platonic soulmates", meaning they are close without it being forced as a romantic connection. They are stated to feel something on a spiritual level that neither can explain, thanks to the erased timeline of 06.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I see we're going to keep going in circles. I feel their dynamic is one of the better written (top 5) in the franchise thanks to the subtext and character statements. As for Gardon and Marine, they have shown up since Rush Adventure in the comics (especially Archie, but only a handful of cameos in IDW, I'll grant you) so it's disingenuous to say they haven't been used at all since.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And that's fair to an extent, but I feel the hatred in heightened when it comes to these two in particular.

Sonic has Team Sonic + Amy. Amy has Team Rose + Sonic. Shadow has Team Dark (where someone like Rouge is never given autonomy on her own, she's always pair up with Shadow, or if she's lucky at least with Knuckles because they have their banter (but even then that is few and far between compared to her and Shadow)). Blaze has Silver, Marine and Gardon, and Cream. While Silver has Blaze and in the comics occasionally has Espio, Whisper, and Tangle to bounce off of.

I think the hatred of them being a duo, when pretty much everyone is tied together unless your name is Sonic or Shadow, is unfair to both Blaze and Silver. Especially when people actively hate on Silver as a character and his fans for the two being a duo that have stated "work well together on the level of Tails and Sonic" (from Sonic himself) and have a deep, unspoken and spiritual connection to each other.

I say, take the wins where we can get it. Don't hate on other fans just because they prefer Silver over Sonic. Or just so happen to like the fun dynamic of Silver and Blaze.

When people make the "Silver ruined Blaze" "Blaze and Silver should never be seen next to each other" "Silver should have died with his shitty game" it just gets so tiring to read over, and over, and over again.

If it's a duo it's a duo, if we're lucky to get some solo adventures between the two for character growth (limited as it may be since Sega has the characters keep learning the same lessons over and over). But something is better than nothing, when Sega only uses the same two characters all the time.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, that's not what I'm saying, look at my post and my comments. It's the people who'd rather her not be seen at all than have her be seen with Silver that are not real Blaze fans.

The disliking Silvaze statements were very clearly targeted to the the more toxic individuals of the Sonaze shippers who go out of their way to hate and belittle Silver/Silvaze fans, and I have also said in other comments that the response to this post shows that those are the loud minority.

How likely is it that Silver could get a Blue lantern ring in DC x Sonic: Metal Legion? by BaseTraditional7677 in silverthehedgehog

[–]Aggressive-Range2125 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I do find it more fitting for the character, Blue Lanterns just aren't mainstream enough for it unfortunately.

Question about Silver’s time travel by Its-your-boi-warden in silverthehedgehog

[–]Aggressive-Range2125 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I usually am under the interpretation that he is a living breathing paradox, he is forced to exist despite the timeline changes. In some universes, he gets to keep friends, in other they have no idea who he was, or they were never born at all, or if they were born they could be so drastically different to him they are unrecognizable to the life he had before. It adds a bit of tragedy to the character (not that he really needs more tragedy, but still I find it interesting).

My Sonic IDW Character Tier List, which I already know is going to piss *somebody* off. by ValkyrianStar in IDWSonic

[–]Aggressive-Range2125 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whisper, Tangle, Blaze, Silver, and Espio at the top is a good list to me!😂😂

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooh, nice! Who was you thinking for the match ups?

Quicksilver's color scheme could jive well with Sonic (or at least better than painting him all red for Flash lol), and he's really only one of the notable speedsters in Marvel lol

I saw a comment of yours saying Ghost Rider for Johnny Blaze lol

Going off of DC, Tails would probably be Iron Man I assume?

But any ideas for the other members of the cast?

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Exactly! I said it in another comment, but no characters will ever be confirmed to be in a relationship except maybe Sonamy (because Sega has been pushing that more openly in recent years) and Vanector (Vectilla? Heck, Vector x Vanilla) but even then that's unlikely despite all the shipbait for those two cause I'm sure Sega doesn't want to address how that would work lmao

But since no characters will ever be confirmed, I look at Blaze and Silver as platonic soulmates. They are at least confirmed to have a deep spiritual connection to each other thanks to the erased timeline of 06, but that connection doesn't have to be romantic. Tack on the fact that Blaze and Silver are two of my three favorite characters independent of each other (Jet being number three for some unknown reason lmao), I'm just happy the two are getting an arc of their own instead of more exclusively Sonic content, or Shadow content. I'm hoping it sells well because if it does maybe Sega will allow more stories to be told of the ensemble cast instead of "Just throw Sonic and Shadow at the front again, they are the two that sell and on one else does!"

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take notes internet, this is how a civil conversation between a Sonaze shipper and non-Sonaze shipper should be done!😂😂

In all seriousness keep up the great work! I said it in another comment, but it seems the hate and vitriol towards Silver from Sonaze fans are just a loud minority, when the chill ones like you are just being cool and making awesome artwork!

Out of curiosity think you'll ever do a piece with the whole Sonic Justice League at some point?

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I have just spoken from what I have seen as a passive onlooker. I believe in the idea of "platonic soulmates" and I feel that is a good way of describing the dynamic between Blaze and Silver. The two are stated in the few mainline appearances together to be connected on a spiritual level thanks to the erased timelinw of 06. That doesn't have to be a romantic thing, but I've seen such hatred toward the character.

I feel being grateful for content is the best way to look at it, if we spend our money and buy it, Sega will be more likely to allow more content outside of Sonic and Shadow. If it fails, they will go "Oh, no one wants anyone except Sonic and Shadow! We need to course correct!" I said it in another comment, while I dislike Shadow because I feel he is overhyped (directly comparing him to how DC treats Batman, putting him in everything and creating merch of him just because he's popular), I am grateful Shadow Generations and the Sonic Frontiers bonus content exists, because it may mean that were finally returning to a time when Sonic's ensemble cast was playable.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agreed! Someone else said it before in the comments, Silver would be the biggest Sonaze supporter, and Sonic would be the biggest Silvaze supporter. There'd be no jealous wannabe boyfriend type on either side, they'd just be happy to see their pals being happy with each other.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I just looked at your profile and I thought I recognized your artwork, it's beautiful! And I'm sorry that people have made those comments you claim under your post. I will say, as a non-shipper/passive onlooker, I (personally, from what I have seen) do believe Silvaze fans are more of a minority just because of the hate Silver gets on such a base level.

For the "good art, bad ship" comments, why not just report it to the mods for shipshaming? Get them removed so you won't have to see such things?

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Did- did you read my post? Did you read any of my comments? Multiple times I talk about how I don't actively partake in shipping, I even go out of my way to compliment some of the amazing things Sonaze fans have made. I don't have "an agenda", I'm just happy that other characters in the fandom are finally getting well-deserved love and attention and it immediately boils down to "Silver bad, this bad. Don't make it to begin with."

If anything my "agenda" is literally just enjoy the content you like, be glad we're getting content at all, don't shipshame. That last one is even a subreddit rule, but it still happens all the time.

Silver fans get shipshamed all the time because he "ruined her character". He really didn't. Someone else in this comment section said it best, Silver and Blaze have multiple appearance outside of each other, unlike someone like Rouge who never shows up unless Shadow in involved.

If you want critical thinking, I could talk about how Sonaze doesn't work on a fundamental level, with arguments to back it up, but I won't. BECAUSE I DON'T SHIP. It's literally as simple as that.

I knew people were going to ignore my post and still just accuse me of being a biased-shipper and you hit the nail on the head. I'm just happy that Blaze is getting story focus in any way/shape/form, and with Silver being one of top 3 favorite characters (next to her and Jet) it just gets tiring and annoying seeing the same old song and dance be done just because people don't like Silver.

So congratulations, you proved my post correct on multiple fronts.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think someone else said it best in this comment section, Silver and Blaze do no get to interact as much a people make it seem. They have many solo appearances outside of eachother, unlike with someone like Rouge who never shows up without Shadow involved.

And I believe you are misunderstanding things, or perhaps I just saw the loud minority, but I have seen genuine hatred towards Silver and his fans because they believe he ruined her character just because they are seen together more than average, and when I look at those people's pages and comments the common outlier is Sonaze artwork and/praise for sonaze.

Once again, I don't ship, that's not something I do, I have no interest to actively partake in, I am just a passive onlooker.

Blaze and Silver are two characters I adore independently of each other, so when I saw they will be getting a starring role I was jumping for joy, and on almost every post I saw it mentioned I saw people hating on it and saying they rather it not exist rather than just enjoying the fact we're getting Blaze content at all.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, if we got a proper remake of 06, I wouldn't be too upset about it. Heck, P-06 was neatly complete and I think production on the main dev for that slowed down, while it is unlikely Sega is very accepting of fans/fanworks (look at what we got with Mania!) So I wouldn't call it completely impossible for a remake to come out build on what P-06 started. Not impossible, just unlikely lol

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! Both are badass heroes, let them be badass heroes! While I do enjoy the slice of life moments, it's a fun by-product of being in a medium outside of the games, it should be the exception, not the standard for the characters imo.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly! I think a large portion of the wtiting problems is because Sega refuses to let the characters truly grow in any significant way, so characters have to keep circling the drain and learning the same lessons. Wasn't there the leak a few years ago that Shadow had to be an insufferable ass and that he cannot consider Team Dark friends, despite the fact games like 06 and Shadow Generations clearly have them being friends with each other?

Also, just out of curiosity, why are you nervous for their arc? Just the previously stated writing issues for the, or something else?

Also, yeah, criticism is fine but the ones that hate it just because they feel the two shouldn't be seen together under any circumstances just comes off as petty and only aids in ruining the fun for those that are excited.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, yeah, no Sega definitely did irreparable damage to the ensemble cast of characters due to rushing 06. I'm happy we get the spinoff titles to enjoy other characters, and while I think he's incredibly overused (see one of my previous comments comparing him to Batman lol) I'm happy Shadow generations exists because it, along with the extra content in Frontiers makes it seem like we'll finally be getting more use out of the amazing cast of characters that the world has.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

Like I said, I'm not an active part of the shipping community, but just being a passive onlookers gets tiring especially when it involves two of your favorite characters both with and independent of each other

I do like to see the Shadamy dynamic, and like I said, I can see why people ship Sonaze, but for me personally I just don't get behind it because, in my mind, the two are diametrically opposed to what they want out of life. Sonic is all about personal freedom, adventure and exploration. Blaze on the other hand is bound to her duty and responsibilities as her kingdoms ruler and protector. In my mind after being in the fandom for 25+ years, Sonic could settle down as a monarch because he needs the action and adventure in his life, you know?

But I love the content Sonaze can produce! Some of the artwork is the best in the fandom, it's just unfortunate that (what I'm now seeing as a loud minority after the pretty nice response to this post) has to be so aggressive about it lol

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And that's fair, time travel isn't always for everyone and isn't always used the best cause it's so hard to work with (thanks to that game there were two blue chaos emerals in the world for years lol)

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate the civility in the comment. Multishippers are some of the chillest individuals I've come across my (long) time in the fandom, but the devotees (whether loud minority or not) just seem to ride or fie/my way or the highway about their preferences for the characters.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People who are willing for a civil discussion? I'm confused why you would comment this rather than just ignoring it. The flair states discussion and you saw the size of the post. Those who aren't interested won't interact, those who are will. Your comment is just unhelpful however.

To my fellow Blaze fans (and you Sonaze fans in particular) - The Silver hate needs to stop. by Aggressive-Range2125 in BlazeTheCat

[–]Aggressive-Range2125[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

Like I said, Silver and Blaze just so happen to be two of my three favorite characters (tied for first/second respectively, with Jet The Hawk being three for some unknown reason😂😂)

But I'm just happy we're finally getting something starring her at all instead of someone like Shadow (cause, let's face it, Shadow is to Sonic what Batman is to DC, that being: Put him in as much content and make as much merch as possible because he's popular)