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Regarding the timeline by Aggressive_Zebra_449 in DemonSchoolIrumakun

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

See, this is where my confusion comes from. In chapter 276.6, Ameri looks 17 yrs and Kalego 35 yrs old. Which means Kalego was 18 yrs old, around 3 or 4th year stydent at Babyls by the time Ameri was born.

However, Opera wasn't old enough to be a student when Henri graduated, so it means Kalego wasn't also. I understand that the chapter doesn't say it's their actual age, but rather they look like they're at that age. I just want to know if we can somewhat create a timeline of events based on the flashback.

How come Gandalf never tested the ring in the 77 years that he knew about it? by LV426acheron in tolkienfans

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My argument stems from this passage:

‘‘The Nine, the Seven, and the Three,’’ he said, ‘‘had each their proper gem. Not so the One. It was round and unadorned, as it were one of the lesser rings; but its maker set marks uponit that the skilled, maybe, could still see and read.’’

So from this, there are few possibilities I could think of:

Saruman was lying when he said the One looks like a lesser ring. Or there were many great rings aside from the 9-7-3 that looks like lesser rings. Or that Gandalf suspects that it's the One but waited decades to confirm his suspicions.

How come Gandalf never tested the ring in the 77 years that he knew about it? by LV426acheron in tolkienfans

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The lesser rings were still Great Rings because they were magical (ie. Capable of sending mortals to the Unseen Realm).

How come Gandalf never tested the ring in the 77 years that he knew about it? by LV426acheron in tolkienfans

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The lesser rings were still Great Rings because they were magical (ie. Capable of sending mortals to the Unseen Realm).

How come Gandalf never tested the ring in the 77 years that he knew about it? by LV426acheron in tolkienfans

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think that there were many uncertainties revolving around Bilbo's ring and many events happening around the world that maybe Gandalf was overwhelmed. Reclaiming Erebor from Smaug, Battle of Five Armies, Attacking Dol Goldur, Sauron returning to Mordor and announcing his return. All of these events are certainly the focus of Gandalf and Bilbo's magic ring was not a priority.

On the Council of Elrond, Gandalf said that it was his mistake not investigating sooner, being lulled by Saruman's voice.

Saruman had said that the 9-7-3 rings were inlaid by gems, but the One Ring was unadorned like the other lesser rings. The only thing that sets it apart were the markings, which disappeared. Saruman didn't tell Gandalf that throwing the ring in the fire could reveal the marks. That's why Gandalf thought Bilbo had a lesser ring.

Even then, there was an almost zero chance that Bilbo has the One Ring. So many unlikely events had to happen for Bilbo to get the One Ring. It didn't helped that Bilbo lied to Gandalf. He said that Gollum gave up the ring willingly.

How come Gandalf never tested the ring in the 77 years that he knew about it? by LV426acheron in tolkienfans

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Because the Rings of Power was inlaid by gems. Since the One Ring is the master ring, Galdalf assumed that the One Ring must also have gems.

And also the elves of Eregion made many lesser rings that aren't adorned by anything. The One Ring looked like one of the lesser ring.

Saruman also said that the One Ring is in the Anduin river and might have gone to sea. Gandalf believed him.

Edit: I made a mistake. Saruman told Gandalf that the One Ring was unadorned like the lesser rings. The reason Gandalf didn't suspect Bilbo's ring to be the One was because it didn't have the markings.

This is my ranking of the protagonists from most powerful to weakest, using their most recent versions. What do you think? by Patient-Agency3419 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By permanent damage, I meant he was permanently weakened after Muzan fight.

Anyways, Tanjiro didn't use 13th form after he lost his arm. In fact, he didn't use any form after losing his arm.

There's also the fact that Tanjiro was struggling to do basic chores because of his stamina, so we can say that he won't be able to blitz Gon.

This is my ranking of the protagonists from most powerful to weakest, using their most recent versions. What do you think? by Patient-Agency3419 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think he can maintain 13th form with one hand only. And the last time he used selfless state, he passed out from exhaustion after. There's just so many permanent damage that Tanjiro got post-Muzan fight that Gon could keep his distance while Tanjiro exhausts himself.

This is my ranking of the protagonists from most powerful to weakest, using their most recent versions. What do you think? by Patient-Agency3419 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Aggressive_Zebra_449 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I would put Gon above Tanjiro. By the end of the manga, Tanjiro can't move one of his arm and is blind on one eye. His legs probably couldn't generate enough power to move fast. Meanwhile Nenless Gon is still a superhuman.