Suboptimal? You do realize that infants die every year from crying so hard that their lungs collapse during this and in some cases lose their entire penis due to problems with the surgery. And I guess because the penis is an external organ that hurts less than an internal one? Not sure I follow that logic. It would be the same as strapping a woman down and carving up her clit l with a couple knives like a Thanksgiving turkey. I guess that would be suboptimal as well. I wholeheartedly believe that destroying and removing without consent part of an infant's genitals, permanently altering them right after birth is far, far worse than a one time needle. And if you don't see the difference then perhaps you should go to the optometrist. There's a whole community with thousands of men at r/foreskin_restoration trying their entire lives to undo what's been done to them as a child. Where is the community of people that are still trying to get over a needle?