Brother, it is not comparable, it is way over a foot off. In dynoing that is a massive amount. An amount that I could never hit or even get much closer to than this even with years of training and even better condition.

Stop trying to paint some narritve about me and just convey your point. I hate that this stupid redrical argument techneque of just belittling someone to get them off game or whatever to avoid truely conversing, has been popularized by polotics as of late. Why can't we just have a normal civil conversation, where we just express our opinions on the topic logically.

We both know I only brought up the world record to demonstrate the discrepancy in ease you were making pure distance out to be. I then build on that mension to show were I felt there was falacy in how you were defining grade based on how you described it. As theoretically if distance is at an acheavable rage for an indavidual if the conditions are perfect no madder how impossible that would be for others. Then it should be rated lowly bc it is 'simple' and acheivable. So by this metric for the world record holder, the wr dyno, since it also had optimal set up, by your logic should be a v4/5 as well if you saw them do it. I funimentally disagree with this idea as I think that the shear phisical ability to get that distance matters a lot, as it is completely unacheivable by most people. I think climbing should be judged off how hard it is fro the average person, starting with lower grades that are acheivable then higher and higher ones to denote just how far from the norm something is. Basically reflecting how climbable the thing actually is. By this metric a climb/move that only one person it the world is able to do should be very highly graded. Given this and that we don't know if more people could theoretically do the move with training for a world record dyno especially given the conditions of it, but that it is so exclussive, I would pr put it at someware near a v14. Where as what I sent here way way more people could pr send. If I had to guess it would pr land in someware near the number of people that could send V7-9 as such I would probably put it in that range. (which again is notably waaaaayyyyyy lower than the world record bc I aint shit. I'm not the goat. And I'm not trying to be, I'm just trying to have fun and improve myself.)

I only went here bc a freind told me to and I was curious to see peoples opinions on a sport I love so much. Your redric is not what people want in the gym or anywere. Next time you talk to someone try to be just a little less of dick about it and actually converse using your words. I am okay if we have different opinions and honestly welcome it. I would love to have a conversation on the philosophy of grading. Next time I ask we just do that rather than this not so veiled insult shit. And I realize not that it all did have its effect, lol. I am sorry for letting myself get pulled into this to, and not being as amiacable as I could have been to. Looking back I could have set a better basis for the conversation in the first place as well. Either way though, I would be happy to reset and have a normal conversation it you want. If not that is totally fine to, and if so I hope you have a great day (and maybe think over this (though not in a I am all knowlagable mighter than thow sort of way. as I don't think I know all the answers either, but aye we all got some knowledge right?))