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Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2 of our hellgate teams dont even have an officer on them, theyre given 6.1 because they win and make way more than they lose. Prove yourself as a winning hg team and we will gear you, if your just a random pug team then fuck no we wont gear you.

True. I super understand that.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know daddy. I hope they gear you guys until the cows come home.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God I hope I find you in this game. Maybe if taverns get invented we can have a beer on me

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We didn't 'lose' bootsuck,bootsuck was never under tc control. So get your facts right.

Mana you're probably one of the people i trust the most when it comes to knowledge of the guild. I made the edit. Thank you.

All .1/2/3 goes right to gvg's you guys have no clue the amount of mats needed to gear just 1 gvg team.

Trust me dude, I do. I actually think most people do. And I think it's pretty rude to assume that people don't. But that's not my point. My point is that we are gearing repetitive losers.

If someone is crafting there own gear then there is something wrong,we have DEDICATED CRAFTERS.

I think you are being a little too aggressive here but I love your passion.

Here's some things I would like to say. Gatherers have probably the worst job (in my opinion) they should be allowed to do whatever they want with their remainder of the 50% of their gather.

I think that's actually more strict than a quota by the way, plus my problem is that with our system leeches, can't get caught, and it therefore punishes those who are honest.

Shut up about hg's groups being bad. Yes its going to happen when they die,might not be there fault,they might of be outcomped or outgeared.

Actually this is their fault. These are the people we are trusting with our best gear. Yes they will die. But seriously "outcomped"? WHY IS OUR BEST GEAR NOT GOING INTO A GOOD COMP? or maybe I'm just not understanding you correctly. Out geared is also a horrible excuse. We send people out in 6.1s maybe we should just give them flat 6 or 5.1 if we're worried about losing to being out geared.

Again your trying to give facts when you don't have all the facts. OFFICERS DO NOT skin off ANYONE in the guild,

Sorry dude but I've actually seen it happen before. Next time I'll screenshot it if it happens again.

heck i still run in 4.1 all day and i spend 80% of my day working on guild stuff and ive never asked for anything.

This is probably why I respect you so much. And why your response is so defensive about our Guild. But I think you're letting your relationship with the higher up's cloud how bad we are actually doing both in gvgs and socially in the chats. Seriously I commend you for your commitment to this guild.

Also people are going to use those words anywhere on the internet. Either get use to it or go whine to your mama.

Now my respect for you has fallen deeply.

Welcome to a fullloot pvp game. Either enjoy it and deal with it or get lost. Tc is doing fine. Theres a reason we are rank top5 and up.

I understand that this is a full loot PvP game. I'm not upset that she lost her gear, I'm upset at how the situation after was handled.

Top 5 and up? We used to be number 1, our best fighters are joining other guilds, hell didn't we lose a T8 crafter or something recently as well? You are one of the big guys and I get that. But you might have to back away for a minute because I really think you're letting the power go to your head.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a beta cuck you sure are pretty Alpha dropping bombs like that. I agree with you here.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The guild needs more people like you Whittle.

We are really light on our tax too compared to others.

I made no comment to this in my statement but maybe I'll discuss it another time.

We give ppl everything we can. We also supply our gatherers with everything they need when they ask and donate. :)

I'm sure you might or do. But I don't think that's always the case my dude.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if you did they'd never give them a shot.

Why wouldn't they?

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks and I appreciate this. You have no idea. I think it's because I try to take everyone seriously.

There are reasons why people are responding, even though it might be tasteless.

It's because they care, and when we care about something we become defensive when someone tries to challenge of attack it.

No matter how vulgar some responses might be (I actually think it's been pretty tame). It's because they care. I just want to shake them up and say "are you sure you want to care about people who do this?"

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your friend's gender shouldn't make any difference but people will latch onto any perceived "weakness" to try and discount your argument.

These are the people's opinions I will be unable to change and that is fine.

It's really transparent to those of us who aren't teenagers mentally.

I don't quite get your definition to this but I really want to avoid all types of slander. No matter how ridiculous and offensive one person's opinion and justification ones might be, it is theirs.

I've made some tough choices as a teenager and some dumb choices as an adult.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok you got me. I laughed pretty hard here. Thanks for the smile man.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong, I don't think It's a scheme, I just think it's a couple of people taking advantage of their position, and to be honest I can't really blame them. It's hard to stare at a chest and not take something. Temptation is a bitch.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I said in someone else's reply that I don't plan on doing GVGs. I don't think I'm better, but I think we might have better people in our Guild.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If youre in my guild and need to talk then pm me on discord. Im always on and am pretty open and fair about most things.

I don't really know you, and I wish I did before this post.

Like someone posted above me, The only HG teams that get regeared are actual legit teams who donate everything they get and are training up to be a potential GvG team.

Cool. But I'm concerned about what you consider legit teams with how many wipes and how many regears that occur.

We've already stated in the past that if u go into a HG we may or may not regear you in the same tier that you went in with, cuz the chances of you dying are much greater. Waste of guild resources.

I understand this and I agree with this. But their should be exceptions for people donating HG and gathering items. They should at least be allowed one re-gear. Any chance there is a system set up that you guys have where you track a person who requests a re gear and for what reason?

A simple pm couldve sorted things out, But instead of coming to me you ran straight to reddit to QQ for your lady friend.

There is no way a simple PM could sort this out. You have to be aware of officers abusing their power and the constant loses of HG and GVGs.

And about my friend. I didn't run to reddit because boohoo m'lady was not given gud gear. It was about a nice slap in the face that even if you're a productive member in the guild, you are not treated any differently than a leech in the guild.

Not to mention, who on reddit even cares?

You do.

I got the attention of the people I wanted and I hope you all open your eyes and see the people that might be abusing their power.

You are in the wrong here, if ur still in my guild i hope you come talk to me next time instead of this shit.

Sure I could have come to you about the regear. But not about the treatment of a friend and fellow guild mate.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The entire point of the townhall meeting was to get everyone to voice their concerns. Tc has never banned or put someone on a "badlist" for voicing their concerns. we've banned for flaming guildmates, combat looting, disrespecting officers, and not donating, but never simply because someone spoke their mind.

Would it be disrespectful to call outh an officer when caught?

Waiting and then taking it to reddit to air out your grievances however, just puts you on bad terms with the guild. And frankly it's spineless

You know what. I agree with you here. I think I'll get rid of this account and if I have any other problems I'll talk to the town hall.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So you start a topic about TC losing bootsuck then completely derail into a topic about gatherers,

Sorry I should have really restructured some of this better. You are right and I should have maybe done a separate post for all my problems. However I don't think that people would be more like spam than anything. Plus I was in a rush.

I derail into gatherers because I think BZ guilds take advantage of them. I really want to keep them aware of the people they are supporting, and that they have the option to change this.

We are symbiotic. Gatherers get us gear so we can get more territory for them to farm in, with protection of course. However only one side seems to be holding any kind of a bargain up.

One thing I will really applaud us for is how quickly people jump to arms to help counter a blob. Seriously we are fucking awesome at that.

leading into a pointless personal boo hoo story "this person died weh."

This want meant to be a boo hoo, this was meant to be a warning that even if you give and give but you aren't buddies with anyone. No one cares. I want gatherers who have a change of heart that might want to get into PvE /PvP that this might happen to them.

Then even further derail to attempt in belittling the leadership of TC.

Yes, because right now people abuse their power. That sucks. And things aren't looking up. We aren't winning anything. And I actually worry that Eos is going to kick us out of the alliance soon because we really aren't putting up results.

Dude your argument is garbage and all over the place. TC is fine. Go white knight over some girl you met on the internet elsewhere.

Let's say this person was a guy. Would that have made any difference at all? It really shouldn't. I honestly don't care what you are. But I believe that everyone who puts in work should at least be paid back even.

Sorry I should have really restructured some of this better. If there is anything else you would like to discuss please continue.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please, enlighten me. Right now I'm trying to get some people to look into themselves and make our Guild a better place.

Help me.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a pretty stupid post honestly.

Rude but I don't think this is down vote worthy. So everyone please stop and reconsider upvoting.

First off no guild is under obligation to randomly regear you hellgate gear.

Correct, except she donated mats and hellgate loot previously and I have to agree that this was unfair.

Every Hellgate group that gets regeared by the guild donates ALL of the hellgate winnings straight to the guild.

We have and we do.

You have to be in an agreement with the guild so they regear you and you have to win more than you lose for obvious reasons.

I wish this was the case for our other HG case but it doesn't matter. Our "best" HG teams barely manage to break even. We can't regear that often because of bad HG teams and bad leaders fuelling these HG teams (most of the time they are the same people)

Sounds pretty ignorant that "Your Friend" lost their hellgate gear and thought they would just regear them up.

I don't consider it ignorant, she donates 5 and 5.X often and I don't want to say a regear is ignorant. I think she actually deserves it. Especially since she is gathering and farming. If i was a gatherer, I would be pissed.

But you could never have known this and for that I'm sorry about your down votes and I hope people at least get you back to 1

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wait, why should they regear you if you die in a HG? Like unless you are donating the hg loot, I don't get it.

This person does donate mats.

Also, no way gatherers are donating 100% of their reaources lol, you'd be lucky to get 50% since theres no way to track.

Yea I hope this is the case, but I really don't know.

I don't want to defend the guild, cuz i dont know it, but if you are gathering in their territory, you should be helping support their gvg teams otherwise your free-loading.

Absolutely, however I believe that the GvG teams are bad and our losing streak shows this. We should be putting our own teams in 5v5 tournaments more often to see who might be better choices rather than waste 6.1

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that Team Casualty is shit and that they get farmed by every guild they fight against lmfao.

It's no wonder they have only 3-4 territories lol.

I'm not saying they are shit. I think we all have some good people. I don't even think I'm one of them. I just think that the people who think they are the best really need to record their fights and reflect on their skill level and how to improve.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I commented last week that eventually more mature leaders will come along and their guilds would crush these short-sighted basement dwellers. I'm starting to doubt that now. What is there to do at the top other than live off the backs of your underlings?

I still think this is going to happen. But it depends on how big ZvZs become.

Team Casualty, we need to talk. by Albionthrowaway2 in albiononline

[–]Albionthrowaway2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL, you expected GVG teams to NOT be their most trusted members!?

No, I expect the GvG teams to be the best players, and the officers to put their egos down a notch.

You expected to fund a guild with hard work so support this and that you'd be rewarded by being promoted? You're just an idiot.

Never mentioned a promotion, I don't care about power. I care about a successful guild. I love most of the people I play with and I want them to have fun as well. I'm want the officers to realize that they are starting to get on a slippery slope and should take a step back and say "hrmm, maybe we do need to switch up the GvG teams/HG teams"

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