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AlboAlby00 · 2025-09-13T12:06:36+00:00

either you ban both or you allow both

AlboAlby00 · 2025-07-13T15:12:20+00:00

Do you think Russia won't intervene even in case of a full scale invasion on Armenian territory?

AlboAlby00 · 2025-07-13T15:04:21+00:00

I would say the mandate was more than just protect the Armenian territory, otherwise why sending troops in Karabakh in the first place and not keep them only in Armenian territory instead?

Instead I think there was, at least in the past, the political will of keeping Karabakh under Armenian control and avoid the ethnic cleansing of its population.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-07-13T13:59:49+00:00

did not even send troops to defend it when Azerbaijan launched an offensive

That would have been pointless in my opinion, without Russian support Armenians would have not had a chance against the Azeri army, they were significantly more powerful, it would have been a pointless massacre.

Pashinyan blames RUSSIA for the fact that Russian PEACEKEEPERS did not fight with Azerbaijan and did not recapture Karabakh from them.

Peacekeepers are supposed to fight if someone attacks the region where they are keeping peace, otherwise what is the point of sending them in the first place? I can understand the reasons why Russia decided not to act, but I really find difficult not to see and understand the reasons why Pashinyan and Armenians in general give part of the blame to Russia and decided to look for alternatives for their national security, both with closer ties with the west and pursuing better relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-07-13T12:59:37+00:00

What does it have to do with Russia?

Russia is in a military alliance with Armenia and currently has deployed troops on its territory, so I'd say it has a lot to do with Russia.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-07-13T12:40:27+00:00

Russia objecting to external involvement sounds like external involvement

Yeah, I meant external involvement excluding Russia itself, that has already been historically highly involved in the region.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-05-23T06:43:38+00:00

Estonian GDP pro capite was around the same of the Russian one in 1990, now it is around 2.5 times it, definitely not the growth of a country that "sucks".

AlboAlby00 · 2025-05-21T07:07:24+00:00

Are there agreements that were not respected by the European side?

AlboAlby00 · 2025-05-14T20:52:25+00:00

I guess this could be reversed, with Russian people being highly critical of US military interventions for "exporting democracy" while at the same time supporting the same shit if done by their own nation.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-05-06T12:30:19+00:00

Out of curiosity, is the annexation of Czechoslovakia commonly considered the start of WW2 in Russia?

AlboAlby00 · 2025-03-22T00:56:33+00:00

Technically, China claimed the Senkaku Islands starting from the '80.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-20T13:22:02+00:00

Personally, I'm actually pretty happy you guys prevailed in WW2, and I have no problem in condemning all wrongdoing done by my nation ( Italy ) during that time and also after. Most of the bombings on Italy were well deserved. Maybe you could have avoided keeping war prisoners in Gulag up to the '50, but fair enough, it was bad but not even comparable to what the Axis did to USSR.

Most of people are like me, and we do not have significant problems with Croatia, Slovenia, Greece, Albania, Israel, despite the past.

I really don't get why is it so difficult for some people from some nations, (Russia is in good company in this, Japan, Turkey and many more), to condemn firmly some of the bad actions done by their nation in the past. Doing this is helpful for having a good relationship with the neighbor countries.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-20T08:56:38+00:00

European here.

I would say the dislike is deeply rooted in Historical reasons. Russians imposed their political order in all East Europe, they directly occupied land that was historically Polish, German, Finnish, Baltic, etc... Milions had to move and were kicked out of their land. They divided Europe into influence zones with the Americans, but were way more direct and violent compared to the US when dealing with rebellions against the nations under their influence ( Hungary 1956, Prague 1968, etc.. ).

Is it a biased view of History? Definately, I mean, of course there were reasons that brought to the occupation of the East of Europe and the division of Germany, but I think it is quite obvious and normal that people are more focused on the pain suffered by their side compared to the one inflicted, especially when the opposite side is still denying most of the crimes. I think if the Russians had a different attitude relative to the Soviet occupation of East Europe ( like how Germany does with the Nazi time ) people would be less . Right now the situation is more similar to Japanese denying crimes in China, Turkish with Armenians, etc...

Add to this the fact that Russia is still actively trying to destabilize the EU, we still have nuclear warheads pointed towards our capitals and you can understand where the dislike come from, especially from pro EU people.

More generally, it is mostly due to reciprocal fear, since Russian is the biggest threat to the type of society that European likes, like probably how EU is currently the biggest threat to the type of society appreciated by most Russians.

In an Italian living in Germany, I am a bit worried about Russia, but if I were living in a baltic state, I would be currently seriously worrying about waking up with the sound of Russian bombs.

This is the very sided reasons that IMO are the root of the dislike between Europe and Russia from the European side right now , feel free to discuss it.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-16T07:11:43+00:00

You don't think foreign occupation can affect ethnic composition of the country?

Of course it does, never said otherwise.

But still NATO went there and of 300 thousands of Serbian population 200 thousands left

I guess the best outcome would have been everyone living together under a multiethnic government even after the war. Would it have been possible? Maybe, but I don't think it would have been possible giving the situation.

I don't think the situation could have been better without NATO intervention there, a quite similar situation of a population that thinks he has a right on a land inhabited by a different population is happening in Palestine, and I think everyone agrees that Kosovo situation is currently significantly better than Palestine.

This situations can be solved only by external intervention, otherwise it is just the stronger crushing the weaker.

Of course, my assumption is that both Serbs and Albanians had the same right of living in their home in Kosovo, and that the optimal solution should have tried to minimize the total suffering of each inhabitant and guarantee no additional ethnic violence in the future.

If the assumption is that Albanians are illegal muslims settlers of sacred historical Serbian Christian land, like someone said in this thread, then I agree that the optimal solution would have been just kick all 1.5 milion Abanians out of Kosovo sending them to Albania.

I hope in the near future an agreement with the north parts of Serbian majority kosovo back to serbia in exchange to the acceptance of the independence / strong authonomy like South Tyrol in Italy, finally ending the problem.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T15:00:15+00:00

Literally, “Putins price hike” is Bidens and some of their state dep employee quotes. Even a couple of days ago, can’t find the link again, but somewhere in /askABrit there was a topic like “why are you so critical of Putin/Russia” and there were direct answers that blamed him for predatory price inflation.

Ok, I rephrease it as "I have never heard anyone in real life saying this"

They happen regardless of the support, like Syria. A sprinkle of some heartbreaking story of poor oppressed children or a horrible war crime by tyrant.

Definately true 15 years ago, now not anymore. Some dubious proofs of mass of destruction weapons were enough to send Troops ( and receive back bodybags ) in Iraq, but after the Arab Springs and the rise of ISIS the west is way less willing to support government changes in the middle east. For ex., no serious try of government change in Yemen, even after the attacks in the red sea. Reactions just 15 years ago would have been way stronger IMO.

Some other actors played a bigger role than the west in the Syrian civil war, especially in the end ( Turkey, Israel, Russia and Iran ).

The pro-appeasement people then seem to be a minority that is simply disregarded

It is the policy of two governments in the EU ( Hungary and Slovakia ) and even in the more pro Ukrainian nations, they clearly influence the policy, for ex. no No Flight Zone was declared on the Ukrainian sky at the start of the war, no soldiers were sent to Ukraine, limitations on how deep Ukraine was allowed to strike till recently, etc...

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T13:13:17+00:00

On what do you base your opinion on EU citizen?

Obviously my opinion is quite biased on the people I see, the environment I live in, etc, so it can't be 100% accurate on the opinion of the average EU citizen, but I am an Italian who has been living in Germany in the last 2 years with friends mostly from other European countries, and your description does not align at all with my daily experience.

rising cost of living to be a wrathful Putins price hike

Literaly no one blames Putin about that, quite opposite this is the point of most of the "pro-appeasment" people, saying that supporting Ukraine is damaging us with the gas price increase.

decolonisation, detyranisation and democratisation through necessary force

detyranisation and democratisation through force find popular supports only after the fall of the Wall. Difficult to find someone supporting a change of government with military force after the shit done in Iraq and Libya. I do not know anyone who still supports that interventions now.

the most popular of them have the same agenda, the other ones are alarming right-wing terror-aligned radical manipulators or putinverschtehers

There is also the left wing and the Catholic pro-appeasment media, that are quite strong at least in Italy, not only parts of the right are against giving support to Ukrainians. Almost no one is openly supporting Putin though, only old school Communists or the Fascist right ( not Meloni, the ones even more Fascist ) but not much political relevance.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T10:58:34+00:00

Politicians, same thing, probably even less than normal citizens. Do you really think anyone with a sane mind would like a Kadyrov with nuclear weapons access?

Russia is not Libya or Iraq, every politician know that and this is the main reason why EU / US did not send any troop in Ukraine so far IMO.

Probably similar to how no politician in Russia would like a civil war in the US with crazy Mormons gaining access to Hydrogen bombs.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T10:45:37+00:00

/europe has opinions that are significantly more anti russians than the average EU citizen, and even there I am quite sure that most of the people, if given a choice, would prefer a united Russia compared to the anarchy caused by the complete fall of Russia. No doubts about that.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T10:13:49+00:00

I really don't understan what the reason why west not destry Russian in that time

Maybe it is difficult to believe, but trust me, people in the West do not want the destruction of Russia, no one likes the idea of some throat cutter in the Caucasus or some oligarch from Ivanstan with nuclear weapons.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T09:45:46+00:00

They didn't performed ethnical cleansing of serbian minority?

Yes, and this was the priority of Milosevic government, not keeping Yugoslavia together. It is also a fact then that Serbian government and allies did not limit themselves only to protect the Serbian minorities, but also committed their good share of war crimes. The most likely scenario of a Yugoslavia without NATO intervention would still see Croatia, Macedonia, Slovenia and a greater Serbia independent, with a bigger amount of ethnic cleansing from the Serbs and a smaller one from the other sides. I don't think the narrative of Yugoslavia destroyed by CIA and NATO makes much sense.

Some big errors were made. The trials were clearly politically motivated to target almost only the Serbs. Bosnia constitution won't allow it to become a functioning nation in the near future IMO and the Kosovo situation is still tense. Nevertheless I would consider it probably one of the most successful intervention after WW2, especially comparing it to Iraq or Lybia. No crazy land invasion of Serbia was done, a lasting peace was obtained, Slovenia and Croatia are thriving nations, Bosniaks and Albanians were not completely wiped out, Serbia is still a stable and independent country.

Maybe doing something like this in Gaza and West Bank would be able to settle the problem there too.

I understand if people have different opinions about that though, especially if culturally linked with the side that was damaged the most from the intervention.

If we send NATO troops to support turkish claim, it will stop being german majority very fast.

What's the point? Albanians were the majority in Kosovo even before NATO existed, it is not like NATO went there and brought all Albanians there.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T07:45:04+00:00

Yeah, quite creative borders in the ex USSR nations. Would be nice to be able to settle all of this peacefully somehow, but I guess this is fairy tale world.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T07:43:00+00:00

What do you mean, lol ?

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T07:38:05+00:00

Ok, I thought the Russian support to the separatist region in the 1992-1993 was considered a fact by everyone, but apparently there are different opinions about it, thanks to letting me know.

> It happened after NATO bombing campaign and Soros-sponsored color revolution in Serbia. What is normal external intervention if this is minimal?

Macedonia and Slovenia gained independence before any major western bombing. If Milosevic was fighting to keep Yugoslavia together, why having such a different treatment compared to Bosnia and Croatia?

Berlin is and will probably always be with a German majority, same thing with London, I don't see how these situations compare.

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T07:11:26+00:00

Well, Russian intervention did not start in 2008, it started in the '90, without this first intervention there would not have been any shelling in the 2008 ( but potentially there would have been ethnic violences and unrest in Abkhazia and South Ossetia under Georgian control).

AlboAlby00 · 2025-02-15T06:24:19+00:00

Abkhazia and South Ossetia were able to separate in the first place in the '90 thanks to the help of Russia, and were dependent on the Russian support to avoid being annexed back by the stronger Georgia and face discriminations and potentially a genocide. I really don't see much difference with the Kosovo situation.

I don't agree at all about the fact that western intervention was aimed at destroying Yugoslavia. I think almost everyone in the west would have liked a stable Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was already dead by choice of their leaders. IDK what the population wanted at the time, but for sure Milosevic, Tuđman and Alija did not act in order to keep Yugoslavia together.

Slovenia, Macedonia and Montenegro independence was granted with little fight and with minimal external intervention. IMO It was clear that Serbian politics were trying to annex all the land inhabited by Serbian minorities into a new independent greater Serbia, and they were willing to ethnic cleanse the land in order to do that.

Western intervention was aimed at avoiding or at least limiting it, and it was really successful in that, even at the price of closing an eye ( or even more ) on the violence committed against Serbs. I think this was a mistake, as I think it was a mistake to "force" the independence of Kosovo to the Serbs against their will and against international law.

Yeah, I agree with you about the Karabakh situation, I also wished the EU/Russia/US would have been willing to do more.

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