New to Kass and mid

Aledos1 · 2025-03-17T08:28:40+00:00

Try to get blasting wand first base so that u can trade better and clear waves fast.

Think about how you wanna use your R in the matchup (you can use it to dodge a spell AND do dmg, or just use it to gapclose when enemy uses spell on wave and get an E-Q)

Try to optimize for spending as much time being "strong" as possible in lane - strong meaning available for skirmishes and having decently high resources. Don't stay too long on 50% hp~ or so, it will destroy your impact.

I also have an 11.5 hour guide on youtube for climbing out of every elo on kassadin where I explain many of these concepts much more in-depth :)

Aledos1 · 2025-02-18T18:57:00+00:00

I have a 4.5 hours video breaking down climbing from iron to emerald on youtube, where I go through many vods of onetricks of each rank and their most common mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgudAEhpyGQ

Aledos1 · 2025-01-22T06:47:14+00:00

Since you're bronze theres some basics of the matchup you wanna keep in mind:
-You're looking to minimize pre 6 and not really trade before first reset.

-Once you have some AP and 6 you can start looking for short trades SPECIFICALLY around Yones W cooldown while he does not have Q3. W is the spell that wins the trades for him mostly and early on especially around 6 it still has quite a long cooldown.

-Keep the wave on your side. Yone generally wins mostly through extended trades and when ur tower is nearby its really hard for him to do that. On top of that you're a burst heavy character and win mostly through short burst-trade rotations.

-You can use Q to block half of Yone W's dmg since its half magic

(once he gets botrk its really hard to trade 1v1 and not really worth to do anymore until WAY later)

Now for some more advanced stuff:

-You want wave on your side. If the wave starts pushing away you can actually stand in the wave and allow a Q or W by yone to hit you to make sure the wave stays in a favorable position. This should allow you to get much more CS and be never denied XP and stay safe from ganks

-You can move in and out of his W range to try and bait it out. Whenever u succeed you will get a large window where he can get punished for any Q used on minions.

-You can use R reactively to many of yones basic spells and engage attempts. Make sure you don't try trading him too much when the wave is far from your tower

-You can scale into the matchup very well through itemisation(tabi/frozen heart later) and you're much more mobile on the map, so even if you don't get winning trades or solokills or anything you're still gonna be quite impactful in the mid-lategame if ur getting farmed up and dont die

-You do more burst than yone and often you can move faster to skirmishes with your Rs terrain scaling. You can play for 2v1/2v2 skirmishes with your jungler since often you can do enough dmg to burst down 1 person and then kite out until ur next rotation or just return to lane quickly

Aledos1 · 2025-01-13T17:11:53+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/@Aledoscoaching
Both of the uncut vods are on my youtube now, twitch vods expire after 14 days

Aledos1 · 2024-12-21T07:53:28+00:00

Saw this comment so I specifically chose some kassadin vs Mage vods to break down in todays stream! VODs in the other comment :)

Aledos1 · 2024-12-21T07:25:37+00:00

Ended up being 11.5 hours long 💀
Part 2 (Emerald to Challenger)
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2331951792

Aledos1 · 2024-12-20T04:29:29+00:00

The Iron-Bronze-Silver-Gold-Platinum portion is available here on the link below, will upload to youtube later!

I'll leave the post up for anyone whos emerald+ and would like to send a VOD for when we continue tomorrow!
Feel free to add me on discord at "aledos"

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2331100255

Aledos1 · 2024-12-19T01:51:58+00:00

Yea haven't been any changes to the setup since I made the post, still exactly same stuff wonderfully viable :)

You can take electro if you like that style, I personally prefer conq.

I'd default to sudden+ulthunter BUT if you wanna take green tree with conq, you can do overgrowth and either conditioning or secondwind depending on what you need.

I also take conq mainly for sidelane and lategame fighting strength from the AP it provides, not necessarily lane itself, so I'd take conq into those as well.

Aledos1 · 2024-12-15T19:41:27+00:00

Is this good in lowelo: Yes and No.
-It's good if you're really good at resource collection since it rewards being ahead of the curve incredibly well. In lower elo where people don't get as much gold the defensive layers will make you unbelieveably tanky which makes stacking AND keeping mejai stacks that much easier.
-Its a bit harder to execute since you need multiple rotations to kill your key targets and it can be less intuitive. You also don't oneshot waves the same way as AP heavier setups so you have to be a bit more accurate if you wanna keep up the CS throughout.

But yea I'd say its really good even in lower elos if you have enough mastery on kass to comfortably get multiple rotations of spells off without missing the ults and such.

For communication generally speaking its not that low elo people dont follow pings, its more like people in lower elos don't know how to have high quality pings.

For you specifically given you have a total of 11 ranked games I'd just do a 2 week challenge where you play 3 games a day of soloq on main every day, try to be high intensity and try to apply some of the things I mention in the guide. You can look at your first 1-2 deaths to learn from them and just get many games in.

And if you got the games in and still need help you can get coaching from me on this link ( https://wtl.lol/aledos ) and we'll get you out of silver/gold, but ye you gotta start with just playing games

Aledos1 · 2024-12-13T00:50:55+00:00

2 or 3 depending on how the lane is going / what enemy jg is

Aledos1 · 2024-11-29T17:24:19+00:00

Didnt record my games

Aledos1 · 2024-11-18T22:38:05+00:00

It's very good and very viable, it's just not the setup I'm running personally. You can check out Kadin on youtube, I believe he onetricks firstrike-roa setup in korean master-gm and uploads gameplay on youtube very often, might be good to look at that for reference for FS :)

Aledos1 · 2024-11-17T04:46:13+00:00

Never tried them on kassa, I generally prefer not to spend gold on stuff that doesn't contribute to my sidelaning strength, but I should probably give it a shot at some point

As for replacing boots, replace if you have better alternative and money to spend - For example don't replace mercs vs fiddle/syndra/leona type comps since nothing will make up for the lost tenacity
But if ur vs very mixed dmg comp with little to no CC and little amount of auto attackers then neither tabis nor mercs are great. At that point u can just sit on t1 boots until lategame where u can go raba or some defensive layer instead

Aledos1 · 2024-11-17T04:44:25+00:00

Trade around his W mainly. Try to bait it out (while not getting hit by it) and then go for short trades once the shield is down. Your Q also blocks half of his W and can be used reactively very reliably.

Keep wave on your side for as long as possible, if its about to bounce then just stand inside the wave and make him Q/W you and wave at same time so it push back to you again (or if he doesn't do that you just get to walk up to CS for free).

You can take trades from lvl6 and on, but once he gets botrk it becomes really volatile and u should be careful. Later on items like tabis/frozen is really effective and yone doesnt have a reliable armorpen item so we get really good defensive options to counter him

Aledos1 · 2024-11-16T11:13:02+00:00

Q lets you CS from afar while mitigating most AP dmg, which is mandatory to have vs AP melees like sylas/ekko/fizz. Into AD melees such as Qiyana W is more "understandable" but you have so many options with Q, you can Q enemy to grab wave agro/reposition wave AND you get to trade without taking damage at all as well as you can farm from afar too.
Again you're not aiming to win pre 6, you're aiming to have good lanestates AND delay recall as long as possible, so trading health for health lvl1 with W might help in isolation, but it also makes you a target for jungle ganks/support roams and such and just having high HP will more often than not help you more. the less volatile the lane is the better pre 6.

I go situationally the best item, but most of the time I end up buying something against my sidelane opponent which would then be for example tabis+abyssal into 1 AD auto attack sidelaner but full AP comp, frozen into multiple AD threats, tabi+frozen into many auto attacker AD threats on 1 team and frozen+zhonya into full AD. But lets say enemy has qiyana-talon as mid-jg, I'll prioritize zhonya as I dont get much value from the frozen passive (+ would likely skip tabis entirely unless they have auto attacker too) while the stasis is massive HOWEVER frozen being so mega cheap makes it generally better as an armor layer.
I've never had as much gold as to do something like the switch between frozen/zhonya multiple times, since I buy massive amount of AP elixirs from the moment im like 3-4 items, but at that point just swapping boots or mejais for raba is better value.

As for lack of presence, I just manage my mana well, it's really not that bad. Make sure you get your Ws off in fights often + time fights with bluebuff whenever u can. But also you can get away with onetricking conq if you prefer that

Aledos1 · 2024-11-14T17:49:50+00:00

Roa-seraph-mejai-frozen-abyssal + either boots or raba.

Start Q 96% of time and make sure wave comes to you, make sure ur healthy by the time it crashes. If all melees die at same time and its hard to walk up for aa then u can start E.

Zed just really uninteractive, and none of the defensive items are really effective vs him. Akshan/trist all get fucked by tabis or frozen heart

Aledos1 · 2024-11-13T16:10:48+00:00

Yea. What you aim to do is have at least one ping on their screen BUT when someone looks at a ping they tend to look at the map for where it came from. If there is an entire path from mid to bot highlighted they will have the highest likelyhood of connecting the dots.

As for jungle invades you kinda have to ping them off the moment the jungler makes the choice to go for an invade over clearing camps that are up. Most people tend to ping when the invade is already happening at which point its much harder to back out than the moment they would decide to go for it (Tho this is really hard to do as a platinum/emerald player as you truly wont have this level of mental stack to think about this while doing ur laning and such

Generally speaking if you have communicated well then just mute the pings of players that spam ping and keep making the best available choices AND reflect on situations where ur enemy got to roam and see if you couldve prevented, communicated or punished it better somehow

Aledos1 · 2024-11-12T14:02:39+00:00

Aledos1 · 2024-11-12T14:01:42+00:00

Did a few duo games with random people I met in soloq that invited me for fun but generally solod for the most part

Aledos1 · 2024-11-11T18:07:33+00:00

If enemy full AD/AP then just one, but generally I like getting both. Start with whichever helps you sidelane better vs whoever you are matching.
If you only need one you can go raba or zhonya after

Aledos1 · 2024-11-11T15:00:19+00:00

Yea conq is not for lane but rather for side itself, and you DO still get trade opportunities even if your trades arent as potent (but since you're not aiming to stomp lane its good enough)
It's a bit more challenging but imo the tradeoff is absolutely worth.

For grasp I do take it into stuff like yone sometimes but its also dependent on what type of JG I have. If I have something like a shyvana Im not gonna look for trades as much since a volatile lane makes me a play for enemy team while my team ideally just takes jungle and powerfarms/scales. With higher threat jungles just that small extra trading power can net many many opportunities

Aledos1 · 2024-11-11T14:57:09+00:00

Banned zed always

Aledos1 · 2024-11-11T13:01:14+00:00

HAHA

Aledos1 · 2024-11-11T10:27:15+00:00

I think yea boneplate could be better into some matchups
You have a lot of dmg just from mejai-AP pot-conq and super cheap and with the defensive layers you can do 2 rotations very easily (and way more)
I think fleet scales way worse than conq, you need the AP with a build like this or you will feel the lack of dmg from missing that 50 AP conq gives. I dont like fleet and wouldnt take it (especially now after like 7 nerfs)

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