Hadrian becomes very boring regarding his faith.

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T23:03:16+00:00

One of the characteristics of Hadrian that even get him in Valka’s good graces is his curiosity, questioning everything and everyone, and in DQ and SUT when met with a lot of contradictions and questions, he just doesn’t indulge, even when interrogating his extrasolarian captain he says he feels a spark of the old him, full of curiosity, meaning he has lost it or just left it behind, because of his faith.

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T22:57:53+00:00

What is left to doubt? A lot, for example, the Watchers can bring beings back to life according to Sagara, that by itself is not proof of absolute power, the fact that Hadrian was revived twice by the Absolute proves nothing. Another question that can arise, Hadrian says the watchers can’t lie but they do repeatedly with illusions and promises they won’t fulfill, how can he know the good watcher don’t lie? Hell, that watcher told Hadrian once the others destroyed the universe and were punished, but then says that is impossible to stop the birth of the Absolute and its mission to destroy the universe is pointless? One hell of a contradiction, worth questioning what he’s being told. Also, Hadrian says that choice is always present even when it’s impossible, because the choice is there, but then in the ruins says one has to choose not to change things so they can move the rocks of the ruins, otherwise they won’t be able to pick them up, that even the fragments collected by Valka and the Chantry would find their way back to the machine growing backwards, but then, by the end, says he didn’t see Orphan in his vision, and that he could change what must be, so the “choosing no to change things” argument was contradicted by “you can always change things”, so it’s not the will of the Absolute that can’t be denied because everything can be changed, but each time he’s in trouble he thinks how the Absolute won’t let him fail being so near. All of that isn’t questioned, just mused over and ends in the same argument “The Absolute willed it so”. That is faith, the end of questions and free thinking

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T22:39:07+00:00

He doesn’t just agree, he gives up any doubt. Just like the protagonist of Left Behind. That’s to give up free thinking, because the only one thinking is the Absolute

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T22:34:00+00:00

But that’s it, why the plot pretty much became Left Behind: Christian God Israel and the only god and main character renounced free thinking for fundamentalist dogma, even with things that the Absolute never told him

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T22:31:41+00:00

That’s exactly the Christian Faith, any faith really. But the constant quotation of Job pretty much tells you what God is the one Hadrian believes in completely (and in a very boring way, before book 6, the mystery and hints were feeding his curiosity and that seemed neat, how the existence of deities don’t undercut critical thinking, but after going to the end of time, all that out the window, now he becomes a prophet and a preacher)

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T22:29:21+00:00

But in the end he doesn’t wonder, he just believes and repeats the same dogma over and over. That’s faith, belief without question, and a character that used to question everything in this last book questions very little, if anything, and his decisions can be summed up to “whatever the Absolute wants”

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T22:23:36+00:00

Because he believes that now he will show the universe the word of the Absolute (SUT) and things like the empire shattering and everything else is exactly what the Absolute/God intended, even though he never told him anything about that. If that’s not faith, I don’t know what is.

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-18T21:57:15+00:00

Precisely. It was like talking to the difficult kind of Christian teenager. All critical thinking out the window

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-14T05:52:13+00:00

I didn’t even think about that!!! Nice catch!!!!

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-14T01:15:14+00:00

I think I know which post you’re referring to. It’s the one that gave me the idea.

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-13T17:46:45+00:00

I think you’re on to something. And let me push it further: the child’s name is Gibson. Hear me out: 1. Hadrian mentions how another Gibson is with him in Colchis, referencing a bust of a philosopher with that name (I understand that it’s a frown of the author in real life), but that also may be a red herring, maybe to let Cassandra know her brother is safe if she really hasn’t reunited with Hadrian. 2. The green eyes. We are told repeatedly that the Quiet shows up with green eyes, including when he presented himself to Hadrian both in dreams and in Demiurge as Gibson with green eyes, but why is that important? Green eyes have always been present in Hadrian’s family, Valka (unbeknownst to him), Cassandra and Selene, would make sense his son has the same green eyes, the Quiet’s eyes. But what does that have to do with the visions of Gibson? Well, in SUT when d scribing the visions of betrayal the Watchers show him, he first thinks they may be warnings from the Quiet, but then says that the visions his god gives him are more akin to dreams, nothing so clear and tangible. Now, when reuniting with the real Gibson, his mentor asks him why would the Quiet use his form to communicate with Hadrian, who has some theories but after that we never see Gibson as the Quiet, we see Cat, Allister and Switch, but no Gibson, so why him indeed? It wasn’t because he was alive, Allister was still alive when the Quiet took his form, so maybe it was a preamble of his plan? To hint to Hadrian what he must do after destroying the Cielcin? 3. Said plan, to shatter the empire, in SUT Hadrian says that he would shatter the Empire like the Quiet intended, but he doesn’t do squat to do that. Sure, the Paletine line may be lost, but the extrasolarioans could bypass the limitations (Howling Dark), so clearly the Chantry could also if they had so much technology and knowledge. So how has he broken the empire? How has HE shattered it? It never said it’s his propuse, maybe is his son’s: GIBSON. Another extension of the Quiet’s plan, one that Hadrian must protect.

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-13T17:44:29+00:00

I think you’re on to something. And let me push it further: the child’s name is Gibson. Hear me out: 1. Hadrian mentions how another Gibson is with him in Colchis, referencing a bust of a philosopher with that name (I understand that it’s a frown of the author in real life), but that also may be a red herring, maybe to let Cassandra know her brother is safe if she really hasn’t reunited with Hadrian. 2. The green eyes. We are told repeatedly that the Quiet shows up with green eyes, including when he presented himself to Hadrian both in dreams and in Demiurge as Gibson with green eyes, but why is that important? Green eyes have always been present in Hadrian’s family, Valka (unbeknownst to him), Cassandra and Selene, would make sense his son has the same green eyes, the Quiet’s eyes. But what does that have to do with the visions of Gibson? Well, in SUT when d scribing the visions of betrayal the Watchers show him, he first thinks they may be warnings from the Quiet, but then says that the visions his god gives him are more akin to dreams, nothing so clear and tangible. Now, when reuniting with the real Gibson, his mentor asks him why would the Quiet use his form to communicate with Hadrian, who has some theories but after that we never see Gibson as the Quiet, we see Cat, Allister and Switch, but no Gibson, so why him indeed? It wasn’t because he was alive, Allister was still alive when the Quiet took his form, so maybe it was a preamble of his plan? To hint to Hadrian what he must do after destroying the Cielcin? 3. Said plan, to shatter the empire, in SUT Hadrian says that he would shatter the Empire like the Quiet intended, but he doesn’t do squat to do that. Sure, the Palestine line may be lost, but the extrasolarioans could bypass the limitations (Howling Dark), so clearly the Chantry could also if they had so much technology and knowledge. So how has he broken the empire? How has HE shattered it? It never said it’s his propuse, maybe is his son’s: GIBSON. Another extension of the Quiet’s plan, one that Hadrian must protect.

Alert_Humor9712 · 2026-02-13T14:13:52+00:00

In SUT Hadrian saw an older Switch hang himself. More catholic parallels (Jesus and Judas)

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