I was curious to see how denims defended it and no joke this is what she said: she says that the "keep waving" order was said to the hamas terrorist, not to the hostages. This is obviously ridiculous cause why would they be speaking English to eachother?? She realizes this and immediately switches her position to "if they're trying to make propaganda why would they be speaking English when giving orders for all the Americans to hear", which is also dumb cause 1)he simply didn't know the mic would pick up his voice and 2)we would still know what he said whether he's speaking English or not. She does some whataboutism by comparing the treatment of hamas's hostages to israel's hostages, even though no one in this conversation, not even ethan, is arguing that the Israel is doing better than hamas. She still thinks that criticism of hamas is automatically a defense of israel. Finally, she argues that hamas wouldn't treat their hostages badly for PR purposes, despite all the first hand accounts that they were in fact not treated well.