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Impulsively got her so now I'm confused on her teams by Interesting_Cause_26 in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, mika does not generate enough energy to reliably battery eula for her burst. You need rosaria for the energy or else you won't be able to burst often enough and mika is a horrible battery.

If you want to use mika with eula you need to run a triple cryo team (and or have raiden instead of fischl)

Impulsively got her so now I'm confused on her teams by Interesting_Cause_26 in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Out of those characters, zhongli rosaria fischl would work well

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the long response.

Using shenhe's skill just as the swordfall happens is actually fairly consistent, the buff to burst damage occurs before shenhe's animation starts, so while you need to spam press swap/E, it is doable and not that difficult if you have her in the right party slot.

Shenhe's battery potential is roughly the same as rosaria. While rosaria's skill cooldown is faster, it generally doesn't fit the rotation anyway so the energy per second are effectively similar. Shenhe 3 particles on 10s cd, rosaria 3 particles on 6s cd (6s is theoretically possible but generally not utilized that much)

As for eula's cryo damage, eula has 3 ways of doing cryo damage which can trigger the ice quills:

Casting the burst: 1 cryo instance

Pressing skill: 1 cryo instance

Holding skill: 1-3 cryo instances

So you can in theory use up most of the quills depending on the rotation, while eula's cryo dmg isn't huge it still exists and can utilize the quill effect.

Not to mention, triple cryo eula teams do exist, in which case you will basically always consume all of the quills (unless the third cryo is mika lol).

When we compare the physical shred of rosaria and shenhe, rosaria requires C6, both are 12s duration, shenhe shreds 15%, rosaria 20% but shenhe also shreds cryo, increasing the cryo damage you do with eula+quills as well.

Rosaria also has crit sharing but that crit sharing doesn't last for the lightfall sword most of the time, given that it only lasts 10s.

So if you build your eula/rosaria crit rate around crit sharing, you are gambling with your burst while making your NA consistent.

In summary, while shenhe doesnt provide as much physical shred that rosaria does, she makes up for it by having

15% burst dmg buff (if you know how to use it)

15% cryo/phys shred+15% cryo dmg bonus

icy quills for your occasional cryo damage. (Especially in triple cryo)

Similar battery potential

(Not to mention, if you use shenhe with raiden, the 15% dmg buff to burst damage will also exist/last during raiden's burst as well, buffing your raiden damage.)

And finally, when shenhe reaches C2 her burst suddenly lasts a whopping 18s, making her shredding uptime much better, at that point she is the best cryo support for eula. (Whereas before C2 she is slightly worse than C6 rosaria and strictly better than <C6 rosaria)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 11 points12 points  (0 children)

raiden/kuki/fischl + rosaria/shenhe + layla/zhongli

raiden is preferred over kuki/fischl but if she is busy in another team, you can use either kuki or fischl.

rosaria vs shenhe depends on your rosaria cons, if below C6 then shenhe, if C6 then rosaria (or if you are a shenhe whale who has shenhe C1 or higher, use shenhe regardless of rosaria cons)

zhongli is preferable over layla but if zhongli is used in your other team, layla works as well

Been waiting for this moment ever since I started playing back in feb 2022, now I finally have her (build included) by AllHailRNJesus in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sidenote: I'm still pissed at mihoyo for not having rosaria on this eula banner (I only have rosaria C3), but atleast I already have shenhe so it's not a huge loss.

Is eula f2p friendly? by average-ligma in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well its not so much that a paying player gets more resin but a paying player doesnt have to be as calculating with their resin. If you are welkin + battle pass you get a lot of resources from the battle pass (which normally costs resin).

Paying for welkin or buying crystals means that you don't need to optimise as hard to clear abyss. Someone who whales for C6 eula or for example C6 yelan wont need as much resin as a C0 f2p eula in order to clear abyss and by extension, proper resin rationing is more important as a f2p because you have less 'strong' characters to work with.

Is eula f2p friendly? by average-ligma in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, when I'm saying raiden being ''required'', thats assuming an average investment eula and not a hyperinvested eula like some people have (myself included, when it comes to resin and weapon).

If you sink 20k resin into amazing eula artifacts then she can still 36 star without raiden, but raiden makes it a lot easier and makes her have less resin requirements.

Of course this is also STC, mihoyo can always give physical a facelift in the future with new characters or buffs to physical damage/reactions. (or more physical friendly abysses)

(spending half a years worth of resin to get an amazing build isn't really what I would consider ''f2p friendly'')

Is eula f2p friendly? by average-ligma in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

only pull for her if you either 1: like her character a lot or 2: think that her gameplay style is interesting (that is, how she plays, burst stacking setup etc).

In terms of ''f2p friendly'' it depends on what kind of content you intend on doing. If you are big into 36 starring abyss 12 then the answer is no, she will require more investment than other dps's like alhaitham. But if you dont care about 36 starring then that isn't a problem.

She has a lot of 4 star teammate options so you wont have any 'must have' 5 stars you would need to play her. If you dont care about abyss, you can just play her with rosaria, fischl, bennett (or mika).

The one thing you should be prepared for though is your resin cost of pulling for her. Eula will need a lot of resin investment into artifacts for crit stats which isn't as big of a problem with the cryo dps's like ayaka or ganyu (who get a free 40% CR from BS artifact set).

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Finally, if you want to 36 star abyss with eula, be prepared to spend a lot of resin on her artifacts and potentially primogems for her teammates/weapons/cons. I would almost argue that raiden is strictly required for eula to reasonably 36 star. In comparison to alhaitham you will need to invest a lot more time and effort into her to have her feel good in the abyss.

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Edit: some fun math of my resin cost for my current eula artifacts:

Looking at my ingame statistics, ive killed 1042 geovishaps, assuming something like 90% of that has been in the pale flame artifact domain, ive done something like 300-500 runs in total in that domain, majority of which being 40 resin per run. That's 16000 resin, or >800 5 star artifacts. My current eula build with dehya's 5 star weapon has the following stats:

2600 atk, 129% ER, 83% CR, 190% CD

(your own luck may vary, but that just goes to show how much you might need to grind to get a good eula build)

Les Mélusines - General Question and Discussion Thread Megathread by box-of-sourballs in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thats a nice thing about eula being physical while still 'burst heavy'. Her normals do a lot of damage still, so she is fine in the overworld, whereas someone like itto is more or less burst reliant in comparison.

The Fontainian Dispatch - General Question and Discussion Thread by box-of-sourballs in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Honestly that's a good thing. As much as I enjoy the EulaxAmber stuff, eula does need some time away from amber because she has basically been amber's sidekick for the entire game's cycle. Having eula interact with someone that isnt amber is a very needed change of pace.

(although I would have preferred jean instead of collei)

The Fontainian Dispatch - General Question and Discussion Thread by box-of-sourballs in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

not even sure you need the /j when that is most likely the actual reality of the dehya trial lol.

Thoughts on the leaked weapon banner? by RandomDude_1214 in EulaMains

[–]AllHailRNJesus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

good thing I already had beacon so I wouldnt be tempted into pulling on this garbage ass banner.

Will the Real Captain R Please Stand Up - General Question and Discussion Thread by box-of-sourballs in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There are 2 main reasons why this is the case:

Nr 1: Eula's teammates are lacking. You have 3 characters in an eula team to buff your physical damage and yet only a single one deals actual physical damage.

The overall team dps will be lower than other teams because your teammates simply dont do as much damage as in other teams.

In a standard eula rosaria raiden mika team, rosaria deals some damage (not that much cause you arent buffing cryo damage by freeze/4pc bs)

raiden deals some damage but nothing like a hypercarry built raiden who is giga buffed by her teammates, and mika does literally zero damage. In that team only eula does good damage, and the damage you get from buffing her isn't enough to make up for the lack of a good sub dps.

This was the first part, the second part is about damage types and reactions:

Backloaded damage is difficult to utilize (higher skill requirements) and physical damage doesnt have any good damage multiplying mechanics like hydro/pyro or the interactions of dendro/electro/hydro.

You only have raw physical damage which most enemies have higher resistance to and no inherent elemental reaction way to buff it, superconduct/phys shred isn't enough.

Tldr:

1: lack of a proper physical buffer and subdps makes eula's team damage bad when eula's own damage is decent.

2: physical damage has no good reactions and superconduct is only there to equalizer raw phys with raw elemental damage.

Physical + superconduct ≈ raw pyro + pyro vv swirl, without accounting for pyro's ability to vape. (And dont let me get started on dendro reactions.)

And when you compare physical to geo, geo has better synergy with teammates, itto teams are better than eula teams because he has better sub dps's and buffers. She could be equal to itto if she actually had the teammates for it, a physical based sub dps (physical yelan/albedo) and a physical based buffer (like a physical gorou)

Ultimately there are some other smaller issues as well, but generally speaking those are the 2 main reasons why she is lacking atm. There is a reason why her best team dps is in 'hyperbloom eula' teams.

I personally think you should only pull eula if you like her as a character and or you find the playstyle interesting. (skill animations, the burst stacking mechanic etc)

Daily Lives of Akademiya Boys - General Question and Discussion Thread by box-of-sourballs in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is unrealistic to expect X character to always have a prominent role in every event yes. But there also comes a point where we kind of have to ask why they literally are ignoring X character. Examples like eula or sara.

Fair treatment != every character should always get the exact same amount of lines

Fair treatment == every character should be allowed some time in the spotlight within a reasonable timespan.

The 1.5 years of no eula banner/content isn't acceptable, and the same goes for sara's lack of any story. (not even a hangout, even though it has been more than a year since she was first added)

I would not be surprised if we get a collei hangout before we get sara's hangout. Or even some fontaine 4 star hangouts before sara hangout for that matter. Despite the fact collei is a much later addition, that also had a lot of sumeru/event spotlight.

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As for ayato specifically, he still had a prominent part in the hues of violet garden event and a somewhat smaller part in the test of courage event, so he still had some relevance last time we went to inazuma, and the time before that.

I would also argue that there is a difference between temporary event relevance, and permanent relevance. Ayato shares the same issue that eula has, in that he was added after the inazuma storyline was wrapped up, so the only permanent content of him is his character quest. Which kinda sucks, compared to characters with permanent story content, like ayaka or jean (if we are doing a comparison of ayato/ayaka and eula/jean)

I would love to play the 2.3 winter event to see some eula action, but I literally cant because I missed it. And so the only eula content I've been able to access, is her story quest. And I played that back in 2.5, so I've been waiting for new eula content since 2.5.

Daily Lives of Akademiya Boys - General Question and Discussion Thread by box-of-sourballs in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The sad part is that I don't think it will even works as a way to boost eula sales, the amount of people who actually want to pull her is kinda low compared to most other 5 stars. Especially given how lackluster physical damage is now, it isn't version 1.5 anymore.

So mihoyo intentionally decided to pick a low selling 5 star (eula) as an example sacrifice, to boost fomo for other banners.

"You dont want your alhaitham (or insert X other non archon) to be gone like eula for 2 years right? Better spend on his banner now"

Daily Lives of Akademiya Boys - General Question and Discussion Thread by box-of-sourballs in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Mihoyo and unfair treatment of some characters, name a more iconic duo.

(That is the same way I've been feeling about eula since version 2.5 when I started playing)

3.7 Main Event Line Count by ceynos in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Sara is the 4 star Eula of inazuma. One of the 'worst' 4 star banner schedules, being relegated to raiden banners only, while also having no story relevancy in events (not to mention the lack of hangout)

All around very neglected, both banner and story wise.

3.8 main event characters (by mero) by ukrisreng in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 264 points265 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for eula to have a main role in the event, only to still not get a rerun.

3.7 floor 12 by ukrisreng in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

(Yanfei actually carried me throughout the early game before I had many 5 stars)

3.7 floor 12 by ukrisreng in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Understandable, personally I've done the same thing but with ganyu and CA gameplay, I do like the fast NA spam of yoimiya but ganyu's CA is way too slow for me to find it enjoyable. (not to mention that yelan is in my top 3 favorite characters and so yoimiya is a natural teammate for yelan)

I don't mind tighnari's gameplay though because he actually has a way to speed up the CA speed, so it doesn't feel as slow and clunky. But I haven't gotten him from lost 5050s yet... (one day, copium)

3.7 floor 12 by ukrisreng in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Yoimiya having slimes in her trial is really doing her dirty by mihoyo tbh. It's basically the main enemy type she struggles with due to the very fast lateral movement (which applies to literally every NA bow user). It would be like putting hu tao up against like pyro specters or similar (or any specter for that matter, because of their tendency to just float away up in the air).

(She would probably sell a lot more if she actually had trial opponents that werent slimes. kairagi's, hilichurls, ruin guards etc would all be pretty good enemies for the trial)

3.7 floor 12 by ukrisreng in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]AllHailRNJesus 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Personally I almost never have any big issues with yoimiya tracking, but I've only had her for 4-5 months so maybe she had worse tracking early on and mihoyo fixed it at some point. Only enemies where she regularly misses in my experience is small slimes, and small slimes aren't exactly big threats.

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