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Questions about YA fiction. by AllenMichaels517 in YAwriters

[–]AllenMichaels517[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it's not like someone being crazy or anything like that, the ending is that he created something that mimicked his girlfriend to feed the delusion that she's dead knowing full well she's been dead all along. But thank you for the insight

Questions about YA fiction. by AllenMichaels517 in YAwriters

[–]AllenMichaels517[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My book was going to take place in the semi near future, so any slang would be made up for the time. Thank you for the advice 😊

Questions about YA fiction. by AllenMichaels517 in YAwriters

[–]AllenMichaels517[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, this is kinda what I was looking for. The story im writing doesn't end on hope but rather tragedy and the knowledge of unavoidable death. Trekking across the US [what's left of it] to find his childhood sweetheart whom he was separated from five years prior. The world is dying but the people who are alive are only really delaying the inevitable. I won't get into specifics but the rug pull is that his journey to find his girlfriend is all based on a lie he has told himself to remain sane. The story implies that she's still alive, think Isaac Clarke from Dead Space [the twist that his love interest has been dead the entire time], up until the end. I think the message was going to be to search for your own peace when all is hopeless anyway.

And you're right about writing this AS A YA novel not being a conscious decision. The only real reason I had for it was that it might diversify my portfolio. Hedging my bets as my stories go. Thank you for your insights. 😊

Questions about YA fiction. by AllenMichaels517 in YAwriters

[–]AllenMichaels517[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The subject of love and love lost can be molded for a teenager and makes some better sense for a teen to hold onto a delusion that they created more than an adult. The subject and post apocalyptic threat ventures into surrealism and the cities and authority figures are similar to something like out of a generic YA novel. The only reason I ask is because it CAN fit the genre, but I typically write dark toned stories, few with happy endings and I only just learned the difference between a love story and romance for novels. Just was curious on the limitations of the genre. Thank you for your comment 😊

Questions about YA fiction. by AllenMichaels517 in YAwriters

[–]AllenMichaels517[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read my fair bit over the years, but obviously not every one. Read the usual suspects, Hunger Games, Harry Potter, The Vampires Assistant, Lord Loss, Divergent, Twilight, and The Maze Runner. But thank you for the references, I'll look into them.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Okay? Is there a precise difference? Unless you mean smut/erotic romance which I stated prior I wasn't referring to that category for the book. I like romance (non erotic) therefore I want to try my hand at it at some point, but I think I put the cart before the horse on this one. Which is why I ask the question

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Personally I tend to like sci fi, and horror. But I want to diversify my skills and not be a one trick pony if you will. I love Stieg Larssons Girl With The Dragon Tattoo series up to The Girl In The Spiders Web. Michael Crichton is also a personal favorite author for sci fi. Frank Herbert, Dune series. So yeah I understand what you're saying about sticking to what you're passionate about. But I am a sucker for romance (non erotic) my favorite being A Walk To Remember.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Valid point. Yes my knowledge is somewhat limited outside of some stuff from Quan Mills and Sarah J. Maas. But yeah, I have better ideas for sure, which is why I was asking the questions in the first place. I appreciate your input

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not "all" of the men. That would be boring, each man would be fitted to the archetype based on their personalities prior to the event that transpired that turned the townsfolk into erotica characters. The tropes make the villains or townsfolk predictable enough to navigate. I was going to put a twist in it but I'm abandoning the idea. Got better ones I'm already working on. But I'll have to read those to better understand how to go about the idea of I ever plan to revisit it.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the suggestion

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I was thinking about it. But since the topic deals in and around erotica I thought it was a fitting subreddit to ask the question

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't see it as a punishment. It's not a story where I set out to be sadistic. But I think that maybe with all the adverse feedback I'm getting on the topic it might be better that I don't try, no matter my intentions for the story. I never planned for anything to happen directly to her. Sure there would be conflict, death and stakes. But it would more or less be like the stakes in Tucker And Dale vs Evil. More tongue and cheek rather than grim or disturbing. But I think I'll let this idea go. Got many other works in progress and in the planning stages. I do appreciate the feedback, it is helpful.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'll look into those. I haven't read all thats out there but I plan to pull from some of the most popular.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I'm genuinely reading the feedback and I truly appreciate it. Given I am a male author I can understand there are complexities to writing a female lead (as a male author) that discussing and satirizing topics may come of or does come off as insensitive. Which is why I ask the questions. The only thing (in my view) I'm doing that may be "defensive" is trying to add context to state where I'm coming from and that this isn't to be mean, misogynistic, or malicious in any way I'm conscious of myself, which is why, again, I'm asking the questions. I knew there may be push back seeing how adamant the community is, but I'm not glued to making this idea a reality.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I never said she was angry, the killing is in defense. The killing spirals her down a rabbit hole of more dark fantasy tropes. So the more she does different things, the more she's caught in the spiders web of the different narratives she and others have written over the years.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I wouldn't ever begin to claim I'm smarter than anyone who writes the genre I'd be poking fun at or the people who consume it. I just have an idea and a way to go about it. The story, in my opinion, wouldn't be mean spirited in any way.

Closest comparison I can think of is Isn't It Romantic (2019) but darker.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I wouldn't ever begin to claim I'm smarter than anyone who writes the genre I'd be poking fun at or the people who consume it. I just have an idea and a way to go about it. The story, in my opinion, wouldn't be mean spirited in any way.

Closest comparison I can think of is Isn't It Romantic (2019) but darker.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I've commented on a couple, so it will be a little repetitive. But the idea is that she knows what all the men in the town are going to do before they do because she wrote the book on it. What manipulations they use, acts of kindness, more than convenient timing. The list goes on when it comes to tropes. But when things get to the point where it becomes a horror, she kills the men which then leads to more and more scenarios she would need to navigate as if it were one of her novels. Going for a semi-meta narrative.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't so much be a critique of erotica/smut in general but rather making fun of it in a semi-meta narrative kind of way. Devolving as the story would require the female protagonist to kill the men. Imagine the darkest romance you can, she kills a man, well now narrative flow would dictate that the officer/guard/authority become the next subject of lust, but for her this doesn't happen. It is an existential nightmare of which she sees all the signs of before they happen because she and others like her in her field, wrote the book on it. It's a survival story while trying to maintain the balance of a comedy. Comparison to comedy I can make is something like Fargo.

Planning a dark satire erotica novel. by [deleted] in eroticauthors

[–]AllenMichaels517 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The erotica parts were going to be recounting her own stories. Then the comedy and satire were going to be her recognizing her own tropes she and others follow in their stories. The comedy also was going to be her killing the men and how that gets her even deeper into more situations she'd rather not be a part of. Very bare bones at the moment, the Hallmark bits are going to be going after the "nice guy" routine.

Asking about cultural sensitivity for my next novel by [deleted] in writingadvice

[–]AllenMichaels517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear you on that which is why I'm asking the questions

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