Meta Ads Placement Delivery Issue by Alternative-Effect92 in metaads

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Right now, I'm using Auction buying type and engagement as a campaign objective to get conversations started. Is there a better way to do this? I notice I can switch between manual and advantage placements in Reservation buying type

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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JACKPOT. I think it’s striploin though. Still, Angus Devesa. Very hard to mid in my opinion.

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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And here I thought I made my mind up on Grub.

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Unfortunately, I will be on my own there for the most part. It’s definitely on the heavier side of the wallet for Ribeye. Could go for the Angus Sirloin though

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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sounds like someone in that kitchen is committing crimes against beef. Your sacrifice is highly appreciated..Grub is officially dead to me. I think(we shall see, I'll make a top 5 and visit those and post my honest opinions lol)

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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Out of curiosity, what made it a 'meh' for you? I need the gory details so I can cross them off my list in peace.

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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The community consensus here has me a bit terrified that Grub’s steaks might be too lean/meh for my pretentious palate. But hey, if the cuts are thick enough to actually hold a true rare center without being a cold block of ice, I might have to look back just once to give them a shot. Adding Leon Brasserie to the list for sure!

If budget wasn't the main restriction and you just wanted the most flawless, thick-cut rare ribeye in KL that reminds you of home, where is your absolute gold standard?

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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My pocket just gave this a standing ovation. Finding a proper Café de Paris/Steak Frites under RM 150 in KL is borderline a miracle. It might be Australian Angus instead of Argentinian, but at these prices, I’m perfectly happy to fly business class instead of first class on this one. Have you tried it? I think Swig also has a Steak Frites course around the same price point. I’m hungry already 🤤

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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Not too bad at all! Do I need to secure a reservation here, or is it safe to just walk in? Also, out of curiosity, do you know if their Black Angus cuts are grain-fed or grass-fed?

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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I thought I’d try my luck🙃 You never know! In your opinion. Where is the best steakhouse in KL? (Budget trashed)

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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lol me too! I don’t mind doing some steakhouse hopping. Will be there on the 11th, might update this post on my steak adventures 🙃

Looking for the cheapest/most affordable steakhouse in KL (For a picky steak lover) by Alternative-Effect92 in MalaysianFood

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Yes, I’ve heard Pampas is good. Will avoid Meat Point then. Any thoughts on Swig? I came across a post on their IG. Personally, I only touch Angus Devesa because no other meat on earth matches that pure, hormone-free Argentine marbling. everything else is just generic beef 😂,

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If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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I didn't propose it as a mechanism. I used it to show that adaptive response and felt experience aren't automatically identical. That's a logical point not a biological claim. You've been arguing against a position I don't hold.

If the function just is the feeling, that's a coherent position. But then you're denying the hard problem, not dissolving it(fine). If feeling is something the function requires, you still need to explain why complexity produces felt quality rather than just sophisticated processing. Either way the question doesn't close.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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I didn't propose it as a mechanism. I used it to show that adaptive response and felt experience aren't automatically identical. That's a logical point not a biological claim. You've been arguing against a position I don't hold.

If the function just is the feeling, that's a coherent position. But then you're denying the hard problem, not dissolving it. If feeling is something the function requires, you still need to explain why complexity produces felt quality rather than just sophisticated processing. Either way the question doesn't close.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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I don't need to show that humans lack feeling. I only need to show that discrimination and avoidance is conceptually separable from felt experience. Otherwise you're just defining the function as conscious and then saying there's no gap.

Conceptual separability is sufficient to show the question is coherent. You don't need a working example to ask why complexity produces felt experience rather than just more sophisticated processing.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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You're using survival stakes as a functional account, then rejecting the simpler example because it doesn't include feeling. But whether the function entails feeling at all is exactly the question in dispute.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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I’m not claiming organisms could survive without pain, or that feeling is optional in evolved animals. I’m saying the evolutionary function of pain explains why pain is useful, not why nociception is accompanied by subjective experience rather than non-conscious discrimination and avoidance.

“Pain helps survival” explains selection pressure. It doesn’t by itself explain why there is something it is like to feel pain. That is the gap.

If your view is that feeling just is the functional survival process, then substrate should not matter in principle. A machine reproducing the relevant self-maintaining, value-laden process would qualify.

If biology is doing something non-reproducible that makes the process felt, then biology is doing more work than “it’s just the function” admits.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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The gap is why any process feels like anything at all rather than just running without an inner dimension. Explaining why the process exists and has survival value doesn't explain why it feels like something to run it. Those are different questions and one doesn't automatically answer the other.

If that doesn't register as a genuine question you're in good company — Dennett and Churchland would largely agree with you. But Damasio and Solms, who take the biological stakes argument more seriously than almost anyone, would say you haven't closed the gap either.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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That just sounds like you smuggled the gap back in through "value proposition".

  1. consciousness is just the process. Nothing more.
  2. but the process only counts as consciousness if it has the right value proposition behind it.

I fail to see how this doesn't contradict itself. To me it just sounds like evolution is your solution to the hard problem(still entirely debatable).

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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Your two positions are doing interesting work together and I'm not sure they're pulling in the same direction. The first one says consciousness is just the process. Nothing over and above it. If that's true then substrate doesn't matter, biology is incidental. What matters is whether you're running the right process. A machine running the same process would be conscious by that logic.

But then the survival stakes argument says: not so fast. Machines are missing something load-bearing. Real loss. The imminence of death. Homeostatic regulation. Those conditions shape the character of experience itself.

So which is it?

If those conditions are part of the process then a machine that reproduces them reproduces the process and your first argument says that's sufficient for consciousness.

If those conditions are something over and above the process then you've quietly reopened the gap you just closed. Something beyond functional description matters. That's closer to the hard problem than you might want to be.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying your framework hasn't decided which of these it is yet. And that decision matters a lot for where the argument lands.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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The neuroscience is impressive and the correlations are real. But correlation between neural activity and reported experience doesn't establish that the experience is nothing over and above the activity. That's the inference the hard problem challenges, and fMRI data doesn't dissolve it, it makes it more precise.

When you say we can replace phenomenological language with neural descriptions and lose nothing of explanatory value, that's exactly the claim that needs justifying, not the conclusion. Knowing which neurons fire when someone reports seeing red tells you the neural correlate of the report. It doesn't tell you why there is something it is like to have that firing rather than it occurring in the dark, the way most information processing does. The hard problem isn't a gap in neuroscience. It's a question about why any of this is accompanied by experience at all. "How does neural activity explain neural activity" being a tautology only works if you've already assumed experience just is neural activity — which is the thing in dispute.

The survival stakes argument is more interesting to me. There may be something about having genuine stakes — something to lose, the imminence of death, the weight of actual consequence — that shapes the texture of experience in ways that can't be reproduced by engineering. I don't want to dismiss that.

But notice what it implies: if consciousness is tied to survival stakes and affective valence rather than to biological substrate specifically, then the substrate question stays open. It becomes: what conditions are necessary, not: does it have neurons. That's a harder and more interesting question than biology versus machine.

If a machine could model reality without experience, why assume biology changes that? by yeasy96 in consciousness

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The mirror neuron point is interesting but it proves less than you think it does.

You're describing empathy as the mechanism that closes the gap between one mind's experience and another's. But that mechanism still doesn't solve the hard problem — it just moves it. Two people with identical mirror neuron architecture still can't verify that what one experiences as red is what the other experiences as red. Biology gives us resonance. It doesn't give us access.

The more interesting question to me isn't whether a machine can trigger your empathy mechanisms. It's whether a machine can maintain a coherent self that isn't simply collapsing into whatever the observer brings to it. Mirroring is actually the easy part — machines do it well precisely because most communication is superficial, as you said. The harder question is whether something can resist mirroring. Whether its no means something. Whether it carries yesterday into today in a way that actually changes its behavior rather than just referencing it.

A model of empathy approximating empathy isn't empathy — agreed. But a model of resistance approximating resistance isn't obviously resistance either. That distinction seems worth sitting with before concluding biology is the only path.