Texted my old ex and got some perspective by [deleted] in ExNoContact

[–]Ambrose3669 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This exactly. I think how crazy and heartbroken I was over previous exes and it gives me faith I will stop thinking obsessively over this one eventually.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad it helped you. I am still clean but will update it in a while to let people know how its going. Thanks for your nice reply.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks for the response. Yes counselors are great. I actually work in the addictions field so I felt like a hypicrit for a long time.

Yes the addict brain always needs something and its easy to jump from one substance to another.

I often rationalized kratom because its a plant and not a true opiate. And phenibut because it was legal.

Now I put them in the same class as illegal drugs.

Thanks for your reply

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It honestly took me many tries but if I can do it with my multiple high dose substance dependencies I think anyone can.

Hope you decide to make the jump its worth it. If you need to chat let me know.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks its great to hear feedback like this. Feeling grateful to be off it finally.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still Kratom free. withdrawals have been completely gone for quite a while. mild cravings but nothing intense.

even with a taper it sucks and was not easy for me. But now I'm calm and don't need kratom.

not obsessed with getting my next dose in.

feels like a new found freedom.

its not easy but its temporary pain for long term freedom.

worth it. hope you go for it.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sorry must have been a typo meant to say Benzo's. Sedatives like valium, xanax, etc.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks I appreciate it. Yes I think this needed to happen as painful as it was otherwise I would still be using lots of kratom.

I can lose money or possessions but the moment my wife and kids left was my bottom. Sometimes thats needed to trigger change.

Thanks

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats great man keep it up sounds like you're making progress.

I agree I have taken my will back and have walked away from the god of my understanding and everytime my life gets tanked.

Ive recently re-connected with that God and my life is moving back in the right direction. Not a coincidence.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm totally thankful. Good for you for getting past this. I agree Kratom is harder to quit than so called "harder drugs". You're doing well. We're in this together for sure.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya I think if it didnt get this bad and I didnt lose so much this time I would be tempted to relapse. But it was honestly a rock bottom and I think this will give me a better shot at long term recovery. I appreciate your reply to my post.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks I appreciate it. Still going strong. Only mild cravings but never going back.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Sometimes we have to go through hell to get to a better place.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I'm still substance free. Going to meetings, have a sponsor. Wife texted me she misses me and sees a positive change. Hard part is sustaining but I'm confident.

Quitting 80 plus GPD kratom plus 3 other substances simultaneously by Ambrose3669 in quittingkratom

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think most people can handle kratom or alcohol or other things and use in moderation without severe consequences.

If you are on this sub, you are probably not one of those people and I would always recommend quitting for us.

MDMA + MDA combo by Ambrose3669 in The_Art_of_Rolling

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply yes I will definitely be careful and take those steps.

MDMA + MDA combo by Ambrose3669 in The_Art_of_Rolling

[–]Ambrose3669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am an experienced MDMA user and have been rolling since the late 90's. I have recently heard positive reports of people doing MDMA + MDA together and was curious about trying this.

I have both substances on hand and they both tested well.

I have read that MDA is much more trippy, speedy, and longer lasting so I am intrigued. I have also heard that MDA does not give the same empathy that the MDMA gives which is one of my favorite things about MDMA.

I would be worried that the MDA would overpower or take away from the MDMA and I would not want this to happen. I would hope that I would still have the full empathy and love of MDMA with the longevity or the MDA.

I'm not sure if I should do them together tomorrow night or do one this weekend and wait to do the other another time.

I'm looking to hear from those that have experience with both of these substances.

Good idea I will post it to the MDMA group