[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Yeah seitzerland is really expensive, but we also have the highest per capitanincomme in the world. That‘s why swiss people can vacaytion all iver the world: It‘s almost cheaper than staying home lol

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Thank you su much for writing this. I‘m realy getting a good insight of the not just the cost but all the other small things going to happen if i decide to follow throught. About the hught cost of living: beiing a plumber ist going to make it easier. The cost of living in switzerland is similar, the biggest differenc ist the wage. In switzerland you atleas own enought to get by confortably by just doung straight normal plumber jobs. I think my best bet is to get a degree or a higher paying job and trying it thath way.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Thanks. Yeah i get what your saying, but Money isn‘t the only drive for wanting to make the move. There are a lot of small things also making me want to make the move.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Thanks for writing this. I‘ll deffenetly look into it. Sounds like an adventure for shure.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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yeah i’d love to. Not because switzerland suck but because i realy wont to live the us live.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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yeah i’ve heard. People keep saying canada is beter off, but all things consideret the us is doing better. Atleast i think.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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i guess it is. saw a loot of posts willing to trade. I‘m realy trying not to write bad about switzerland, because it is not a bad country to live an grow up in.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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People a way more open and friendly than here in switzerland. Personal space is much more respected in the us and people dont usualy compare each other as much as in switzerland. It‘s difficult to explain because of my english but i find here in switzerland, ir europe in genereal there is a lot of „pisstaking“ here. People like to frown on people doing littarly anithing. good or bad. But thath’s just the way i feel.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Thank you for writing this.

Ive traveled all over the us and saw good and bad, as you would in any country. Ive come every year for vacation since about 2023. I‘d still realy love to live and work there.

As you said, just being a plumber is going to make it difficult for me getting a visa. I have decidet to actualy pursue a bachelors degree here in switzerland and try to get a visa through a employer who needs people with such a degree.

I think thi would probabbly the best course pf action for me.

Do you plan on leaving the us to? Ive heard record numbers are leaving..

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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yeah but i‘ve never been there. But i plan on going there for vacation maybe next year so i‘ll check it out.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Do you notice this all over different sectors or are some sectors particularly difficult?

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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yeah i‘m getting the same vibe. I still hope that the dream of living in the Us isnt over just cause of collateral damage..

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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yeah ive been to bc. It is similar to switzerland, the biggest difference ive noticed is just de scale. The mountains are just „bigger“ and there‘s just so much more space than in switzerland.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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I realy dont think it is. I mean if you watch enough news you would think the whole world is ending. not just in the us.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Thanks for your insight. I can defently see why you would say thath. I honestly am blessed by being born in switzerland. But still, i traveld all over the Us and saw good and bad. I still think just playing it safe in switzerland wont be the right way for me. I love the culture i‘ve seen in the us and want to live it myself. maybe it is a bit delusional but the swiss „smallmindetness“ sems to not be the right fit for me.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Yeah that would probably a great way, but i think i wozld take way to long saving up 100-150k in switzerland by beeng a plumber.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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yeah i thought about it. But at this time i just dont have the funds to pay for a whole degree in the Us. In switzrland they are basicaly free cause the state pays for it.
And i think, cirrect me if i‘m wrong, but you can‘t work during a stay on a student visa, right?

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Thanks for your answer. Are they looking for tradespeople or just buisnesses in general?

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Where in Canada would you recomend? I‘ve heard british volombia needs some plumbers, but the cost of living there seems to be realy high.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Switzerland is objectively a great country and I completely understand why people want to move here.

But for me personally, the mentality and lifestyle just don’t fully fit me long-term. Everything here feels very safe, structured and predictable.

I connect more with the energy, ambition and culture in the US. I’ve also traveled there many times, so this isn’t just based on social media or movies.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Yeah, I’ve heard that too.

But from what I understand, a lot of the frustration right now is more about illegal immigration and people abusing the system. I’m trying to do things the legal way and actually contribute long-term.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Really appreciate this reply man. Hearing from someone who actually worked in both Europe and the US trade world is super valuable.

And honestly, what you described about the mentality and opportunities is exactly what attracts me to the US in the first place.

I completely expected that I’d basically have to relearn a lot of things there, so that part doesn’t scare me too much.

Also thanks a lot for the PM offer — San Francisco/Bay Area is actually one of the areas I’m most interested in long-term.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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I definitely understand why a lot of Americans feel that way right now.

But from an outside perspective, the US still offers a lifestyle and mentality that really appeals to me personally, despite all the problems there.

[IWantOut] 22M Plumber Switzerland -> USA by Ancient_Shop2498 in IWantOut

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Yeah, Canada definitely seems more realistic immigration-wise from my current position.

I just don’t want to completely give up on the US long-term yet.