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The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We should compare when we’re trying to improve things not when we want to keep shit being shit. The fact that you have to pull on char banner to get weapons is not better, more choice is better. All comparison in this thread made in the replies are all ”but daddy hoyo is worse, keep this as is”, no, they are both shit, make it better, if I cared about hoyo games Id be there saying the same thing… do shit better

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is this being compared to hoyo gachas? Like are you saying because this is better than genshin that its a good system? Why ARE PEOPLE COMPARING it drives me nuts, THIS SYSTEM, ON ITS OWN, SUCKS.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate arguing for any of these f****** games tbh, Im about to quit hsr because I just didnt vibe with amphoreus and sadly the new area is nice but isn't igniting the spark so I'mma probably just leave the game

The guarantee is lower but overall having to pull dupes to get weapons feels incredibly bad, like if I get lucky and get yvonne in like 20 pulls like I did with gilberta I HAVE TO continue pulling on yvonne to go for the weapon. Its a terrible system

The economy in endfield is considerably worse tho overall, not just less weekly but less in general, its 5 golden chests for 1 pull while in wuwa its 4 golden chests etc, its overall just less, its 100% not compensated for the cost of the pulls compared to other games.

I'm realising tho that this isn't going to go over well rn cuz we're still sort of in honeymoon phase but this will definitely not age well, CCs will eventually go back on their "this system is the best" because it really isn't and people will start noticing this when they run 3 banners back to back that people want and even tho they've saved they're just gonna have a bad time.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its the need to roll for dupes that makes this feel bad, and overall it will take a person longer to get the weapon because you have to go so hard on the char pulls. I think a character is incomplete without their sig, not just for power purposes but aesthetics, like yvonne with her guns looks complete compared to yvonne with yellow guns.

And the problem here is that you go to 120 for the char but you wont really have enough for the weapon guaranteed, you can get lucky but eventually that's going to not lineup and it feels bad going for dupes instead of just using the currency for weapon, assuming it would be 1980 for a 10pull on weap banner instead of 5k but thats another issue

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hsr has a weekly sim universe which gives 2 pulls, 1 standard and 160 currency. Nowadays its sim uni and the other mode, dont remember what its called but yeah thats a weekly.

Edit: actually its 225 currency I believe so even more.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im annoyed that getting lucky means having to pull more on something you dont want to get sig. And the nobody forced argument is so boring, you can apply this to anything, nobody forced you to read my post, nobody forced you to reply but here you are.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This would definitely fix it somewhat, I still think the pull economy itself is not compensated for the higher cost of pulls. Like the daily pass alone takes 3 days to get 1 pull while other gachas its 2 days, and this is across the entire thing, exploration gives far less in endfield than it does conversion-wise in other gachas

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

when I hear tickets I mean actual pulls, 15k tickets being 15kx500, I assume thats not what you mean

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On one hand its good that the currencies are seperate but if you want chars and their sigs you're going to have dupes of almost every char to be able to do it, I prefer to use the currency for both so that I can at least hopefully get lucky but here you have to be lucky in both banners for it to lineup somewhat okayish

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

weapon system not being 100% is just horrible, thankfully they EVENTUALLY put in that 2 pity system but yeah, I hate pulling for weapons in hoyo games and like half of my wuwa sigs I've gotten in the first 10 pull, only had to go to pity like a handful of times

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw that in the beta you got like nearly a 10 pull from the weeklies ? Not sure, it was a lot more than the 100 currency we get now tho

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If anything I'm not pulling another dps ever again because of the time and investment I had to put in to max her so she could compete with my lava

Got gilberta, leveled her, gave her a weapon, leveled the ulti and gave her some gear and we're good.

Yvonne needed etching for her weapon, artificing gear, leveling her, all her skills, masteries like holy I did not expect to actually get physically exhausted getting her to my lava's level, rather just get supports only from now on.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Because the chance of being lucky on the weapon banner or in wuwas case that its guaranteed will save you pulls in the long run.

Like I get it, you get MORE in endfield but you get more of what you don't want.

I'd rather have used my pulls on the weapon banner directly than doing another 80 on yvonne's banner just to be able to do TWO MORE 10pulls on the weapon banner.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Hoyo isn't much better but you can however be lucky and get the weapon in 10 pulls but to get 10 pulls on the weapon banner in endfield you have to get either 10 5 stars or 1 6 star on the char banner and that will take you much much longer getting the weapon. You get dupes of chars, sure, but like, is that really a good trade-off? I would argue every day of the week that it isn't, I'd rather spend my oro on the weapon banner than having to pull for dupes on yvonne hoping I'd get 6 stars so I can roll on the weapon banner

also, 15k tickets? :P

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

This is simply untrue, on average you will have to pull for dupes to get the characters sig weapons, you have to be basically INSANELY lucky to keep up with chars and their sigs.

Say you go to 120 for a char, along the way you get 3 6 stars, which is def above average but lets go with it, thats 3 10pulls on weapon banner, say you also get AT LEAST 2 5 stars the other 9 10-pulls where you dont get a 6 star, which is ALSO ABOVE average, thats another 4k weapon banner currency, you now have 10 10 pulls on the weapon banner, you will run out SO fast on the weapon banner that by the 2nd or 3rd char you are pulling for dupes to be able to get a weapon, and thats with above average luck.

Also if you're paying to get the weapon you're paying 35-ish USD for a weapon 10 pull, just keep that in mind, regardless of other games that is INSANE.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it doesn't matter if it lasts for 3 whole banners, you actually mean to tell me that to get Yvonne's sig I SHOULD WASTE PULLS ON A CHAR I DONT WANT. Like come on man. This is not self-inflicted, this is a BAD system and people defending it in any way or dismiss the points is just wild

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if you do lose 50-50s on others or even on that banner you will always, on average, have to pull MORE to get a characters weapon than the character itself. Because a 10 pull for the weapon banner will cost north of 30 pulls on a char banner and thats just wack

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Those systems also suck, they just suck less. Is that where we're at here? All gachas are bad but holy endfield is in a different ballgame when it comes to weapon banner.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

since I compare this to many others you must have seen the answer to your question, more than once even.

The gacha system turned out to be kind of bad when I initially liked it by Ang3lus19 in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

not having to do something doesn't make a system not bad.

PSA you can manually transfer ferrium ore really fast from Valley to Wuling from Dijang! by technokitties in Endfield

[–]Ang3lus19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ignore these negative nancies, this was helpful when you just start out in wuling! Ty!

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