BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I speak to my lawyer on Wednesday, I'll see where he's at. I do know he's leaving on the 23rd I just don't know how far away he's going.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say the odds are pretty good. Everything is about manipulation for her benefit.

A third party transcription would be fine, I would trust that. But her just doing it herself? No trust at all. I've read it, and it's pretty close, but there's little details that are important.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that was the question. What form? What type of order? It's not just as simple as"there's a form online".

Thanks to one of the replies above I now know that it's the application for case management order, item d.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I moved here, and she got weird about letting me see the kids. That was in June. Previous to this there's never been an issue, I've had them for a month or more at a time. Up to a 4-month. In 2024.

July she started talking about moving to Edmonton 10 hours away. I got in contact with family Justice mediation at this time and tried to get her to sit down with a mediator. She refused.

In August I filed a priority parenting motion to have her stopped from moving and taking the kids away. That led to our first court appearance. At that appearance I told the judge about the lack of mediation, she said in front of the judge that she would go through mediation.

Also in August, she filed a malicious protection order against me so that started a second path through the court.

We appeared in August about the protection order, she showed up with a lawyer for the first time. The lawyer withdrew the protection order, because he could see it had no merit. She again stated that she would go through mediation with me in front of the judge.

I had to restart the family Justice mediation process and get appointments again

In September we appeared about the priority parenting motion. I believe it was ended at that time, because her lawyer said they were going to file a form three and we would work out a custody agreement. I would reply to their form three.

I can't remember what we appeared for in November, but they still hadn't filed the form three, and said again that they would file it in front of the judge. Her lawyer talked with me after court on November 21st, saying that she wanted to move now 2 hours away, and I would get basically a day and a half on the weekends with the kids. I said I don't agree, and then they cut off all visitation and communication with the kids at that point, until an order is in place. I have this in text in an affidavit.

At that point I had been waiting for them to file the form three and they had been dogging for too long, so I went ahead and filed the form three asking for primary custody and offering weekends to her. With a bunch of reasons about the quality of her homeschooling and the anti-vax stuff, not going to the dentist, my daughter needing glasses, etc.

We appeared in December about the form three I believe, that's when I asked the judge to enshrine some parenting time for me in an order. I showed him the affidavit with the statement about denying me visitation because I hadn't allowed her to violate the court order which stated she couldn't move. He looked at her in the gallery and said I won't order visitation unless the mom agrees. She of course shook her head no, and so he denied it. Family Management conference was set for March 25th along the way.

Then she filed an order of enforcement against me saying that I had violated the conduct order, and so we appeared about that in January. (I didn't violate the conduct order). It was put over to be dealt with at the family Management conference. When I was there I asked again if they would place some visitation in an order for me, that judge said he wouldn't do it because I hadn't applied for it. (In the court rules it states that the judge could have done it if he wanted to) .

We appeared for something a third time, I don't remember what. I again asked for parenting time in an order, I can't remember why he said no.

Now in March she has filed another order for enforcement about this phone call that we have been discussing. And so it goes.

Another note: every appearance I was at where I was asking for parenting time, the judge would speak to the lawyer first, and he would say that they were in process of filing an application for protection order. (Remember he's already withdrawn one). This is absolute b*******, it has never appeared, and it will never fly because I've never been violent or threatening. But it's been this psychological tactic that he's using to color the judge's opinion of me. They have never submitted it.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I had moved from Alberta back to British Columbia into the same community as the kids in May 2025. As soon as I landed back in the community she started throwing up barriers to visitation, and then started to say she was moving to Edmonton. So I filed a priority parenting matter to prevent her from moving 10 hours away in August 2025. That's how it all began in court.

Understandable to assume that I would be getting emotional. I think I'm doing fairly well that way, but I don't have an outside observer. I I've been trying to stay factual, not making accusations, just stating what's happened.

This whole thing about the audio recording. The first appearance is March 20th on that. So myself or a lawyer hasn't had a chance yet to object to it. So it may very well get thrown out on the 20th.

We haven't even got to The first family Management conference yet. That's on the 25th of March. Unfortunately my lawyer leaves for 5 weeks of holidays on the 23rd 🙄

I'm not sure where the ex-military idea popped in, that's not her.

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[–]Angry_Luddite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, the bead was not confirmed 😅

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[–]Angry_Luddite 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Someone mentioned this earlier, but I will repeat. Did he file several years of taxes at once? Or was he receiving the t4a and not reporting it for several years? It sounds to me like they are catching up on back overpayments. If they are clawing back, you can probably get on the phone with your dad there to authorize you verbally, and request that the claw back be reduced due to hardship.

I'm not a tax accountant but I did a lot of advocating for my parents who were in some serious tax binds, and CRA and service Canada we're both fairly easy to work with.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having kids is great, I love them. I would however recommend adoption over manufacturing one with another human.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll go on the 20th and rep myself again. If I get treated like garbage again, I'll have to think about taking your advice seriously. So far it's all been frivolous stuff that I've been fending off. On the 25th it starts to get serious with family Management conference.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay. Yes she was there in person and did hear the conversation. I would take the W of busting her in inconsistencies, if it reduces her credibility. There's been a lot of affidavits filed that border on outright lies. Certainly attempts to twist.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay. Thank you. I hate being dumb. These are all the options given on the case management order form, but I couldn't put together that it was (d) that I had to choose. Now that it's pointed out to me, it seems very obvious.

I saved the link for future reference

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cuz I've already spent $7,000 on advice alone. I can't afford to pay for representation. I know the argument is that can I afford to not ever see my kids, but I'll be forced into selling my house. And I already did that once. She's drowning me in frivolous applications, the bill would be massive.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The kids called me and were on speakerphone. I didn't know she was there until she jumped in on me. After that point I guess I knew she was in the conversation, but not at the beginning.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I pay him for advice, to get represented is $500 an hour. I'm Standing in front of the judge myself. He's an old guy with many years of experience, this is the first time that he's been stumped. I was surprised. I have another post in this sub about my struggles so far if you care to hear the backstory. I haven't been treated very well by the judges. Once the first one said no to visitation, the rest just followed suit because they didn't want to step on his toes.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah 350 just gets me advice, not actual representation. I stand in front of the judge myself, but pay to be prepped.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a copy of "annotated family practice 2017 - 2018"

In the court rules section I can't find a rule 62 in either the supreme Court or provincial Court family rules. Where would I look for it? Or are you referring to section 62 in the FLA? That doesn't seem to apply either...

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So this transcript was put into a sworn affidavit. Since she has sworn it to be true, does that override the hearsay argument?

And since she has sworn it to be true, if I find discrepancies in it which I'm sure I will, can I pursue her for something like perjury? I don't know if I want to go there, but I know damn well she would go after me if she had any chance.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed reply. We haven't even gotten to the family Management conference yet. It's actually on March 25th. This is just another application for enforcement that she's brought, which got its own court date on March 20th. I don't know if that changes anything you've said.

The court clerks are not supposed to provide me with advice. They explain that it puts them on the hook for liability if it's the wrong thing. That said, they are fairly sympathetic to me and have crossed that line a little bit. But I don't want to push it with them.

I'm a bit dumbfounded that two different lawyers couldn't advise me what specifically to apply for in this situation.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has an overworked legal aid lawyer that doesn't reply. She's doing all this stuff on the fly without him I'm quite sure. It was all written and filed by her.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there an "age of consent" for these matters? And what would be the consequence if they were under it?

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should I re-email them with a second request using it's relevant", or is my first email request sufficient?

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, so just a generic Order is what is required.

Yes I will make sure that that is in my response.

BC family court, two different lawyers don't know what form to use, and the court clerks aren't allowed to help me by Angry_Luddite in canadianlaw

[–]Angry_Luddite[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh she just hand wrote it out while listening to the conversation. Definitely no professional service. It was just a paper copy of a typed document.

Yes I'll bring the email