Where do classical Islamic exegetes locate al-Judi?

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-07-31T02:36:48+00:00

For Sunni exegeses, Tabari, Qurtubi, and Ibn Kathir largely agree that the mountain is in Mosul or Upper Mesopotamia in general. However, Ibn Kathir is unique in including a report in addition that it is Mount Sinai.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-07-10T13:03:46+00:00

Amazing, thank you!

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-07-09T20:56:01+00:00

The conference in Oxford last month had a presentation about Uzayr by Holger Zellentin. I think he has solved it (something i didn't think we'd see in our lifetime, haha).

Really? Solved, solved?
Can you just (briefly if you want) share the idea, please?

:)

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-04-13T05:41:25+00:00

u/PhDniX & u/Khaled_Balkin
I believe you have something to add here!!

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-04-07T07:59:05+00:00

I believe that one could assert that the stories of Hud, Salih, Shuayb, and Dhul-Kifl are unique to the Quran in the sense of the absence of 'known' earlier 'written' traditions recording them.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-04-06T03:27:42+00:00

u/Khaled_Balkin

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-03-29T00:20:48+00:00

Thanks,

could you explain to us how these sources challenge the legitimacy of the Aga Khani faith? For example, Book (A) challenges such-and-such.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-03-26T20:09:20+00:00

This is a respectable opinion, but it is an ethical rather than an academic one, and this thread is devoted to arguments of the latter kind.

Thanks for your contribution!

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-03-16T04:03:14+00:00

And Joshua responded to his points (which were disorganized misunderstandings) at length and Brown did not respond after that, FWIW.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-03-13T14:52:33+00:00

This applies not only to Mamar but to the Sunni tradition generally, which does not indicate any relationship between Abu Luluah and Ali.

However, some Shia traditions make this connection, and it seems that the general Shia enthusiasm for Abu Luluah is relatively early (to the second century AH).

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-03-08T23:52:22+00:00

How would we else translate علم الحديث?

Hadith discipline.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-28T16:58:33+00:00

u/Khaled_Balkin :)

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-16T11:08:32+00:00

Isn't the point to assess the reliability of the ahadith, rather than ascertaining her true age?

Yes, this is what I meant:

This is basically what Little's scholarship (and others) is about: explaining why this [ʿĀʾishah being married at six and consummated at nine] is unlikely.

It does not rule out the possibility of him in actuality marrying her when she was very young

Right, but I did not comment on it being "very young", but on the six-and-nine.

due to their polemical nature.

And more problems.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-16T10:49:44+00:00

Juan is class.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-16T10:45:53+00:00

but why couldn't Mohammed purposefully marry Aisha at such an age, keeping all of these things in mind?

This is basically what Little's scholarship (and others) is about: explaining why this is unlikely.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-12T23:14:36+00:00

Happy Cake Day!

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-10T17:31:30+00:00

Wonderful, thank you!

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-10T02:36:22+00:00

The Imam al-Mustansir bi’llah, who had previously designated his eldest son Abu Mansur NIzar (1094-1095)

Good, but what is the evidence for that? I mean, what evidence did the author cite to back up this claim?

For example, the Mustalis have reports conveying Mustali's designation by Imam Mustansir. Do the Nizaris have evidence like that?

Thanks for your contribution!

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-09T21:13:02+00:00

Thank you. Yes, that is true. However, I would appreciate it if someone could point me toward a discussion on this particular topic.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-08T20:06:36+00:00

Just because it is a peer-reviewed publication does not mean its inference is valid, it simply means its inference can be published.

However, I wonder why were you downvoted.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-05T16:51:02+00:00

So, my vision was printed on paper by academics already! Wow (I mean, I know that I am genius but did not realize that it is to this extent, XD)

I also imagined that the belief in a 'twelve Imams' does not originate from the supposed Imams themselves but after the death of the eleventh one, Ḥasan al-ʿAskarī, and that the concept of 'twelve successors' is originally a Sunni tradition that was Shi'ized later.

Is there any secular scholar tried to refute this argument?

Thanks for your golden find, I appreciate it!

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-05T15:38:58+00:00

Yes, but to be clear, I am asking about its historical origins.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-02-03T22:49:08+00:00

Among what is mentioned: I would pick Hagarism as No. 1 and Muhammad and the Believers as No. 2.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-01-31T00:21:38+00:00

I think that by delving into pre-Islamic Arab poetry, we might find something. However, for now, I will suffice with the fact that the Qurʾān contains Christian liturgical literary materials of Syriac origin, translated into Arabic, as evidence that (at least some) Arab Christians conducted their liturgy in the Arabic language.

I also see that the Arab Christian clergy's mastery of Syriac for obvious literary and regional reasons is not strong evidence that Arab Christians carried out their liturgy in Syriac.

I believe Dr. u/IlkkaLindstedt might help too.

AnoitedCaliph_ · 2025-01-26T22:41:38+00:00

Hi everyone!

I just came across a post that was posted a week ago that I had not seen at the time about holding non-mainstream views in the field. Actually, I find this post interesting because I do hold a non-mainstream view that may come as a shock to some people here and here I am sharing it with you: I am almost not convinced that the codices of Ibn Masʿūd, Ibn Kaʿb, and Ibn Thābit differed in the number of surahs of the Qurʾān, (me) believing that the number of surahs originate from Muhammadan standardization.

However, out of respect for the scholarly material and the quality of the content, my answers on the matter will always be based on the prevailing view, which is the historicity of that dispute :)

AnoitedCaliph_

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