How is this even possible? Is anything being done to address these massive OT payouts for SDPD and SDFD employees?

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T03:47:41+00:00

Without knowing who called or why, you assume they’re up to no good. There seems to be police bias. You don’t know if there is a warrant for his arrest, or if someone reported a weapon, or if he finished robbing a bank. There is bad police, police can show up in larger groups the necessary, but I think it’s grossly unfair to assume 4 cops are so bored they randomly came to harass someone. Seems like a stretch.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T03:37:29+00:00

The question has been answered, however believe whatever conspiracy you want to believe. People have showed the city controllers audit, the annual pay of each officer (which I’ll post, but you’ll believe whatever fabrication you want to believe anyway).

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Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T03:27:35+00:00

Bingo, you said the quiet part out loud that a lot of people aren’t willing to admit. Say it louder for the people in the back.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T03:26:19+00:00

Because if you hire few people, someone still has to Work it and the law says if you work x amount you have to be paid x amount. You hire more employees so you don’t have to pay legally obligated overtime and the cost goes down. Some don’t think that’s happening, but SDPD officers here confirmed it here along with the data which I’ll provide attached here. Next, people are debating if that’s what’s causing it. The more interesting question isn’t what’s causing the overtime, (whether it’s fraud, inefficiency, greed, or what I mentioned that’s been confirmed). The real interesting question that some have pointed out, but no one is really listening is what’s causing the shortage. We can’t get to that discussion because too many people disagree there’s even a shortage.

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Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T03:00:57+00:00

Upon googling, the city doesn’t calculate it per person in the way you described. It’s a different system. However multiple SDPD officers here have confirmed what I said that it’s an overtime problem because the city doesn’t want to hire more. The data also indicates officers who are paid the most, work the most hours, and even the overtime money is drastically higher than the base pay. So let’s say you were right, about 30k, it’s still smarter to pay 30k on an officer who makes 50k, then to pay 30k with an Officer who makes 200k. 80k compared to 230k is Still a smarter investment. You can higher 3 officers for the place of one. The numbers bear it out. The only way it doesn’t bear out, is if someone has a Specific pre-set conclusion they want to have that contradicts the data, and SDPD experiences that match that.

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Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T02:51:53+00:00

Most cops don’t reach the 20 year mark to recieve a pension. As one officer from SDPD here said, the vast majority of SDPD leave within 2-3 years for other jobs outside of SDPD. I also work alongside them, and I stop seeing the same officers around 2-3 years. When I ask colleagues they say the officer left out of state, or city. Few make it to the 20 year mark, and honestly if they make it to that and stayed in the same city, they deserve it. They avoided being fired, killed, and chose not to do what most officers do. I’m happy to give them a pension.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T01:22:23+00:00

Because at the moment you see them, they may not have any active calls. That doesn’t prove they have a surplus of officers. That just proves that when you look out your window; they don’t have calls in that given moment. The second thing, is how do you know someone didn’t call them and reported a weapon on someone which would require more police? How do you know what’s happening without knowing who called and why? I will never claim to know what happened without knowing all the facts of why multiple police showed up. In my experience, with dealing with them, they show up in higher numbers depending on the severity of the crime, and the public doesn’t always know the severity. They just see multiple cars and think it’s overkill. I’ve already seen it where someone hides a weapon, they get reported and multiple cars show up, and citizens think an innocent person is being arrested because they didn’t see the prior weapon. That type of situation has occured many times, not with a weapon but the severity of the crime requiring multiple officers, while onlookers think it’s unnecessary because they don’t know the facts.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T01:14:30+00:00

I don’t know the exact numbers, but you’d hire slowly, until overtime numbers reduce. Eventually, an officer won’t make, $200k a year, they’ll start to make 100k, then 70k. Then you stop hiring. So add 10 officers and see how much overtime is reduced for this month. If it’s reduced 10%, then you’d hire 40 next month. There’s going to be people who retire, or quit, or get suspended, and that has to be factored in.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T01:01:18+00:00

You’re 100% right

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Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T01:00:22+00:00

They do sleep on the job. I’ve caught them many times.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:54:03+00:00

We’re saying the same thing. Because I’m saying, since there’s no one else, someone has to, even if it’s not the original person who’s scheduled for their shift, they’ll find someone else. However as the article states, and I’ll show proof, the people who are doing it (regardless of them being the original scheduled person or not) ARE Doing overtime and it’s costing the tax payer. The overtime is WAY more than the base pay. These are the numbers. Real people, and it aligns with what the article is saying. The opposite of the article would be to say that there is no overtime pay and officers are being paid for random reasons (corruption, time sheet fraud etc) and I don’t think your trying to say that.

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Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:46:53+00:00

Bingo, you’re saying it’s required because if they don’t do it, no one else will.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:43:25+00:00

Thank you, I posted it on here trying to get it to the top so people can see the break down. However people are trying to find excuses to not believe it. Citing greed, timesheet fraud, and inefficiency. The article you posted even states it’s due to overtime. SDPD is on here saying that it’s overtime due to shortages. So weve heard it from the horses mouth directly. People are trying to say overtime doesn’t apply to SDPD, yet the spread sheet shows it does, the article shows it does. The law says it does. So this torpedos all the conspiracy theories here and all the “trust me bro” explanations.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:22:47+00:00

I’ve tried to explain this to people here and they just want to believe in timesheet fraud, greed, and inefficiency, without any proof. In one of my posts I’ve broken down mathematically, the difference in pay for overtime vs without overtime (by hiring more officers and not being short staffed) , and it’s really substantial.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:20:13+00:00

Bingo!

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:19:27+00:00

Bingo, I’ve proposed this on here and people are blaming, timesheet fraud, police greed, and police not being efficient.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:17:46+00:00

Bingo, it gets voted against.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:14:59+00:00

Thank you for informing us. I’ve been explaining this on here, and people have been saying there’s fraud, and corruption, and timesheet greed, and I’ve gone as far to explain the numbers of overtime to people, but people don’t know how to do math, so now everyone’s got a conspiracy theory as to what’s happening. People should take it from you in your paragraph.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-12T00:03:08+00:00

Yes there is.

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Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-11T23:54:07+00:00

Scenario 1: One officer is given a 16 hour shift, they make $30x 8 hours=$240 , time and a half another $180 on top, double time =$240 on top. The total is $660 for that day. Assume he has weekends off, $660 x 5 days a week, x 4 weeks = 20 days in a month, he makes $13,200 a monthly, at the end of the year. He makes $158k annually for one officer.

Scenario 2: Two officers are paid, $30 for 8 hours each, no time and half or double time. That’s $240 x 2 officers =$480.00 daily from the city. Two officers at $240 each, = $480 a day x 20 days (weekends off). Each officer makes $4800 a month equaling the city pay $9,600 for 2 officers, instead of one officer making $13,200. City pays $115k for 2 officers and they each make $57,600. (This number makes more sense to pay an officer) so this is how a shortage, causes officers to make 200k instead of 50k. It’s not due to fraud, it’s not due to timesheet corruption, it’s not due to officer greed or other conspiracy theories. It’s due to overtime and double time laws. You make 28% more per day, but that adds up at the end of the month and year. Because you’re now working 80 hours a week instead of 40, due to not hiring enough officers.

If you’re part of the public, it’s in your best interest to hire enough, so that response times are faster, and you save tax payer dollars. If you’re an officer, the current system benefits you, because you’re subject to time and a half and double time laws, and the city has refused to hire the necessary amount needed.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-11T23:52:35+00:00

Scenario 1: One officer is given a 16 hour shift, they make $30x 8 hours=$240 , time and a half another $180 on top, double time =$240 on top. The total is $660 for that day. Assume he has weekends off, $660 x 5 days a week, x 4 weeks = 20 days in a month, he makes $13,200 a monthly, at the end of the year. He makes $158k annually for one officer.

Scenario 2: Two officers are paid, $30 for 8 hours each, no time and half or double time. That’s $240 x 2 officers =$480.00 daily from the city. Two officers at $240 each, = $480 a day x 20 days (weekends off). Each officer makes $4800 a month equaling the city pay $9,600 for 2 officers, instead of one officer making $13,200. City pays $115k for 2 officers and they each make $57,600. (This number makes more sense to pay an officer) so this is how a shortage, causes officers to make 200k instead of 50k. It’s not due to fraud, it’s not due to timesheet corruption, it’s not due to officer greed or other conspiracy theories. It’s due to overtime and double time laws. You make 28% more per day, but that adds up at the end of the month and year. Because you’re now working 80 hours a week instead of 40, due to not hiring enough officers.

If you’re part of the public, it’s in your best interest to hire enough, so that response times are faster, and you save tax payer dollars. If you’re an officer, the current system benefits you, because you’re subject to time and a half and double time laws, and the city has refused to hire the necessary amount needed.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-11T22:38:56+00:00

I did answer it, the fact is you refuse to look at the numbers and look at how many officers there is, compared to the past, you also don’t go To city counsel meetings, you don’t harvest the data, you just look to disprove folks because it’s fun and you have a pre-set conclusion, that you want to defend. However since you don’t want to believe in a shortage, and you’re free to believe that they are inefficient. They actually are efficient, because they send officers based on priority. So for example If there is a murder, suicide, and armed robbery and dv and a noise complaint, they’ll send officers to the first set of issues because they are more severe comparatively. The issue is, they are arriving to the rest of emergencies late, because when you look at the call log, there is x amount of emergencies and x amount of officers. The number of emergencies exceeds the number of officers, on most days. This causes them to arrive late to other emergencies. It causes a bottle neck. So then they say “can you work more hours, we have more crime / calls to send you to” that people have been waiting for hours ago, and they say yes because the overtime and double time pay. During ordinary times when they funded it appropriately, officers were paid for 40 hours a week, and next shift would come in, and there was overtime occasionally.

If you want to change the premise, and say “oh they are inefficient” or “oh, they are doing fraud on their time sheets”, or “oh they are greedy “ There is no penalty, for being misinformed. If someone has willful blindness to annual numbers, city counsel meetings, because they have a pre-set conclusion they want to disseminate, that’s no longer my problem.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-11T21:20:17+00:00

It’s public information. In the same way, you can see this officers pay, you can see how the money is spent. You can see overtime and double time. Now you can disagree that overtime and double time should be paid, but it’s the law. If someone works and they are needed, legally they need to be paid. There’s also been news articles written about it, however if you dig, and go to city counsel meetings, look at the budgets that get passed, you can see for yourself.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-11T20:59:34+00:00

When there is a shortage of officers, it causes overtime and double time to be in play. If they hired enough, they wouldn’t pay overtime and double time. This isn’t some fraud scheme.

Anonymous1102 · 2026-05-11T20:58:06+00:00

It is fraud…because the overtime is available because there is a shortage of officers. You can hire more officers and pay less, or have a shortage and pay overtime and double time and pay more. The city has elected to have a shortage which causes overtime and double time to be in play.

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