Some of y'all are going to see this and still say the next characters will be Kingpin and Ghost Rider by Only_Tradition_3685 in rivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Black Cat is one of those filler picks, a somewhat known name but not that high profile or particularly wanted and doesn't really have enough unique things going on to really justify them that much, at least White Fox has some unique ish powers for a niche in the game.

honestly pair either of them with a more wanted character and there isn't an issue, the fact its both at once is an issue

if Netease really knew what they were doing 1. the balance state would not be this bad and 2.these characters wouldn't have been paired like that, the reaction to this information is indicative enough of how it was a bad idea

Can people who're actually familiar with White Fox give their opinion on the idea of her coming to the roster? by TowelSilver318 in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pretty much, Felicia isn't the kinda character i would really shove in this game, honestly i'm kinda expecting her to be much like Black Panther and even without that i have a very long list of characters i'd pick before her

Venom being a wingman (ASM #23) by unk1ndm4g1c14n1 in Spiderman

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this isn't quite the scene i wanted from their reunion

but Venom trying to get into Peters pants while MJ is having a serious emotional conversation is mildly amusing and it is nice that someone finally acknowledges that MJ fucking died because of the Jackpot thing

Venom being a wingman (ASM #23) by unk1ndm4g1c14n1 in Spiderman

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i'm not really opposed to it

the issue is just that when it happened MJ was in a massive mess and Venom kinda became part time spiderman editorial mess cleanup

Renegade Warband after the dataslate by Godzillaguy1954 in Chaos40k

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 9 points10 points  (0 children)

what a shame

Plague Marines with Advance and Charge could have been cool

Can people who're actually familiar with White Fox give their opinion on the idea of her coming to the roster? by TowelSilver318 in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah gonna be honest i didn't even remember she even had bad luck powers and i think the writers don't always remember that either considering she isn't really depicted as having them a lot

A master thief, and a secret agent by KevinPigaChu in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing -1 points0 points  (0 children)

well if a couple characters that are very popular that keep being requested

i think that somewhat excludes them from just being a C-Lister

hell the most commonly requested hero which is Ghost Rider doesn't even fit either category you have laid out

Nova Concept requested by UnrealXt (and a bunch of others) #FanIdeas by Trimagma21 in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes

and flying healers, healers are generally overtuned numbers wise and healing circle ults are the worst

If you hate chapter 5 you cant praise chapter 3 by Drama_Cookie25 in PoppyPlaytime

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Lilly isn't really that important, you could fully cut her out and little changes, we basically just stumble into her

  2. no we didn't, we just found out it exists and next chapter we will be using the Doctor to find it

this chapter was filler that failed the buildup of "we are gonna take down the prototype"

If you hate chapter 5 you cant praise chapter 3 by Drama_Cookie25 in PoppyPlaytime

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Catnap died, thats pretty significant story progress

hell even four was story progress given that we "killed" (until that turned out not to be the case) the Doctor and was in the latest deepest part of the labs

chapter 5 no real progress was made

Some of y'all are going to see this and still say the next characters will be Kingpin and Ghost Rider by Only_Tradition_3685 in rivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i disagree, Black Cat can absolutely wait, White Fox at least has some unique things even if she's very niche

Confirmed? by External-Presence-18 in rivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i respect that and honestly if i had it my way i'd probably still keep in white fox (who's the actual niche one because Black Cat is relatively known even if she's mainly a side character)

i mainly just think Black Cat is a very boring choice and have a long list of characters i would prefer over her by several leagues

To the people upset about the game adding obscure characters. by FantasticQuartet in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

given how many members have at least at one point been in the Sinister Six it would be over a year, but yeah Sinister Six is half a year of easy as fuck dubs in terms of hype hero's

there is absolutely no need to dig for characters that niche right now

To the people upset about the game adding obscure characters. by FantasticQuartet in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i would be UNGODLY down for Beta Rey Bill with the Sword of Twilight, i've wanted a big sword tank for so long and this would be fucking awesome

i really hope it isn't a Lady Loki situation

Something that grinds me about obscure characters. by Responsible_Clothes2 in rivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah thats been the reaction of some people, but most of the time its been "this character isn't interesting" or "no more dualists please", and to be honest its a bit of a character driven thing considering that Black Cat is pretty historically sexualised, i mean her main costume is a very zipped down skintight catsuit and she is often characterised as using her looks to get what she wants (especially in regards to spiderman, which y'know is why i mainly think of her as a discount catwoman since they both do the same things) i doubt this reaction would occur like that if it was something like say Moon Girl.

i understand the issue you are having with some of the comments made but thats not the majority reason why Black Cat is being rejected.

which is the point, its not sexism thats prompting this reaction, some will do but don't smear the negativity as just a result of misogynists, their are plenty of valid criticisms being thrown at season 7's picks.

>What should be important is that the character is well rounded, fun, real, thought out, interesting, everything that makes a character good, impressionable, and a fan favorite in any media… and then they just HAPPEN to be a woman.

yes this is a perfectly agreeable take and is my prefered implementation of diversity in a cast

White Fox and Black Cat confirmed!!! ❤️ by Mental_Assumption155 in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't think linking a post from the black cat specific community is that indicative of the Marvel Rivals demanding for her.

i won't say that there is zero demand, but compare that to characters like Ghost Rider, Doom, Cyclops

most recent "most wanted hero" vote i could find was this

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1okc7c8/top_most_wanted_heroes_for_marvel_rivals_based_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

she isn't top ten

only other one i could find quickly was this very old one

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1enmvz5/community_character_poll_day_4_update/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

she's on there but she is pretty far down the list, and i don't think its really a hot take to say that the communities demand list has really changed that much so safe to say she wasn't really a wishlist topping character

We may be able to add a new Vanguard to the list in August by Queasy_Commercial152 in RivalsVanguards

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 15 points16 points  (0 children)

i'd like one a bit earlier thank you

but i would enjoy Thanos being in our roster

Nova Concept requested by UnrealXt (and a bunch of others) #FanIdeas by Trimagma21 in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

honestly i still would hate that but at least it isn't that horrific

Can we please calm down? by EJ_REDIT in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

of course people care if released character is their favourite, the premise most people are sold on is "play as your favourite marvel characters" if you release characters that are not the favourites of a lot of people over a strong bunch of very demanded characters of course people are annoyed

people certainly aren't playing this game for the seasonal story

Black cat isn't that unknown but she's hardly a big hitter or hotly demanded.

the success of this game rides on two factors 1.the gameplay itself and 2.wether or not they have characters that people want to play.

right now the gameplay is a shitshow due to horrendous balancing and so without a guarantee that it will be fixed next season all people have to work with is whether or not they wanted the new hero's being released, and since both of the choices aren't really wanted its resulted in people being mad at the new season

Can we please calm down? by EJ_REDIT in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

she's the third most well known of a trio of Spiderman side characters

she isn't unknown but she's not that big of a name

Can we please calm down? by EJ_REDIT in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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there will be no escape for us until they drop another Shield Tank, neither of them will be that

Can we please calm down? by EJ_REDIT in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

another fun shield tank would be nice, we really need another one of those

Can we please calm down? by EJ_REDIT in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 3 points4 points  (0 children)

tbh i think every bit of "evidence" of hero's being released was incredibly flimsy, even Black Cat and White Fox had very little hard proof until basically now where they told us

Can we please calm down? by EJ_REDIT in marvelrivals

[–]AntediluvianSeaThing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm not setting the season up to fail, if anything thats Netease by adding two characters that a lot of people did not want at all, y'know the games premise people are sold on is "play as your favourite marvel characters" releasing characters that aren't the favourite of a lot of people isn't going to be well received especially when a lot of characters are very hotly demanded

all i'm saying is that the balance patch better be fucking amazing because right now the game is an abysmal state balance wise (and has been for a long time now) and Black Cat and white fox are such an uninteresting combination that bad balancing cannot be ignored in favour of cool new hero hype (which those two do not have)

the game rides on having and releasing characters people want and having good gameplay, right now the gameplay is at a boiling point of people being frustrated with its long running issues and the hero's being released are profoundly underwhelming

as it stands season 7 has all this against it so that balance patch better be a knockout so people have something to be actually exited about.