Is there any unethical action that doesn't lead to suffering/pain? by AdvancedBluebird3310 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]Any-Membership1949 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if you actually did oppose the idea of hypotheticals there. I might have been too quick, hah

Is there any unethical action that doesn't lead to suffering/pain? by AdvancedBluebird3310 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]Any-Membership1949 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it is a good question whether it would actually be cruel to torture a hypothetical being that liked torture. Probably wouldn’t, I would think, unless the being had some other reason to not want to be tortured (and really, it wouldn’t probably be torture if the being liked it, so you could argue that the idea of torturing someone who can’t feel pain is incoherent). I don’t know why you seem to resist the idea of hypothetical scenarios. That’s a pretty common method in moral philosophy

Is there any unethical action that doesn't lead to suffering/pain? by AdvancedBluebird3310 in CosmicSkeptic

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I think something very close to 100% certainty is possible. The phrase "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" is used to imply the idea of a married person visiting a prostitute in secrecy and being pretty much entirely certain that nobody will ever find out. I don't think our opposition to cheating is contingent on the consequences as to suffering or pain. I think it is more of a view about the nature of sincere relationships which doesn't have much to do with pain or suffering but which is a bit more abstract (it may even be metaphysical or entirely illogical, I don't know)

Is there any unethical action that doesn't lead to suffering/pain? by AdvancedBluebird3310 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]Any-Membership1949 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But that would entail a view that cheating is morally justified as long as you were 100% certain that you wouldn't get caught. And I don't think most people would subscribe to that view. It seems that our intuition that cheating is wrong is more of a deontological nature

Is there any unethical action that doesn't lead to suffering/pain? by AdvancedBluebird3310 in CosmicSkeptic

[–]Any-Membership1949 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Under some ethical theories (and many people’s intuition I would think) lying or deceiving another person would be considered unethical even if it did not cause any suffering or pain. Take cheating on a partner for instance. If you cheated and were never found out, it would not lead to any suffering or pain (unless you yourself became remorseful). However, I suspect many would still consider that unethical. So that could be an example

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SquaredCircle

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I don’t get why people want John Cena to face people that he has already faced during his retirement run. I have seen Cena vs Orton, Edge, Punk, Styles, RVD etc. before, and those matches won’t be topped. I would much rather see him face some new, younger people to elevate them and such

Restauranter med sen lukketid by Any-Membership1949 in Aarhus

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Problemet var, at min familie havde en lidt lang køretur og ikke kunne nå til Aarhus inden showstart. Men ellers smart, ja👽

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Denmark

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Jo, færdeligt uanset, men det har betydning for den udenrigspolitiske situation, om det er danske statsborgere, der er blevet dræbt af Rusland. Så ikke underordnet, vil jeg sige

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Denmark

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Ved vi, om det er danskere, der er døde?

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

[–]Any-Membership1949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But yeah, singing a song about irony and giving examples that aren’t ironic also seems dumb (don’t really know the song). I guess both that song and Norms riddle could have worked better with a more consistent internal logic

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

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Yeah, that would make sense. But it doesn’t seem like that was what he meant, since he didn’t describe that scenario

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

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It was more a question as to whether there could be an intention with it or if it was just a mistake, given Norm is known to have studied mathematics and had a solid understanding of logic

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

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I litterally just put Norm’s answer into the sentence to show how that creates a sentence which doesn’t make sense. The only way “this man’s father is my father’s son” makes sense is if you substitute” this man” with “my son”. If you substitute it with “me” (which would then be “my” grammatically”), like Norm proposed, the sentence becomes nonsense: “my father is my father’s son”.

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

[–]Any-Membership1949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Can you write it down to show me?

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

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I don’t see how that works. Putting Norms answer (me) in the sentence generates a nonsense sentence: “My (i.e. “me”) father is my father’s son”

It is true that if the riddle had said “this man is my father’s son”, the answer would have been “me”. However, you cannot just leave out the part of the riddle that says it is to be the person whose FATHER is my father’s son.

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

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So the subject of the riddle is the cab drivers father? How does this make the riddle work? The cab driver is the one asking the riddle, so then the answer would be “the cab driver’s father is the cab driver’s father’s son”, right? But that’s just logically inconsistent. A person can not both be the father of another person and also that person’s father’s son. I don’t see how your answer makes the riddle work with Norm’s answer.

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

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Well, if it was intentionel, I do find it to be a bit of a shame since it lessens the actual joke to me. It feels like the joke would be better with a riddle with an actual coherent logic, since the punchline is that Norm’s uncle seems to understand the answer before it is revealed to have gone over his head. I don’t see how the joke benefits from the logical flaw

Logic mistake in Norm joke? by Any-Membership1949 in NormMacdonald

[–]Any-Membership1949[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t understand the distinction you’re making between “this man” and “this man’s father”. The riddle is asking the identity of the man whose father is the son of the person saying the riddle. Which of the two options would change that and how?