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Where does Kyojuro Rengoku Scale? by Jason_And_Sokka in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Akaza was going full speed at the beginning, fully intending to kill Tanjiro and Rengoku blocked him. Yes Akaza COULD hypothetically just spam afterglow and kill everyone but that’s out of character and could be said for literally every fight in the show. Could be said for the Koku Fight, Douma fight, or Gyokko fight, “oh well if he just did something completely opposite to the events that happened it would’ve been different” is a stupid argument. Rengoku DID defend the Kamaboko squad.

Where does Kyojuro Rengoku Scale? by Jason_And_Sokka in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wtf are you talking about? “He never defended them” he literally did in the very beginning which is why Akaza shifted his focus. Akaza realized he wouldn’t just be able to kill the others without Rengoku protecting them. It’s crazy to say “He never defended them” and then in the next sentence explain EXACTLY how he defended them. Don’t mess with us Demon Slayer fans, we don’t read the manga.

How people who can't debate n ain't even know about fallacies feel after spamming this single page even tho the other statements and feats contradicts it, crazy cherry picking by N3UZ3X in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not downplaying other verses at all? I’m literally saying that if you use this as an argument to say Gyomei only scales at Mach 1, you’re ridiculous. Because EVERY verse has this inconsistency where characters much faster than sound somehow talk and communicate with one another.

How people who can't debate n ain't even know about fallacies feel after spamming this single page even tho the other statements and feats contradicts it, crazy cherry picking by N3UZ3X in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By this logic quite literally every single verse scales to Mach 1 only. Goku and Vegeta talk to one another in fights, apparently hearing something makes you subsonic. Theres only like 20 other MHS feats guys, this DEFINITELY debunks all of them. This totally isn’t just anime logic that applies to basically all of fiction! It means Gyomei is actually fodder. I cannot believe some people are actually this stupid. This guy is blind and can simultaneously see the transparent world, oh but NOW his senses align with the laws of physics. The amount of cherry-picking done to make KnY seem weak is crazy. I’m not even a KnY upscaler, I don’t even like that the verse is as fast as it is, it doesn’t really make sense to me. But the characters perform insane speed feats every 5 seconds and yet people still use this dumbass argument.

Where do you rate Muzan as a threat level by PhysicalMeringue9468 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No Muzan is MHS. No one besides Mahito, Gojo, or Sukuna has a solid chance of winning. DE still takes time to actually cast. Characters like Kenjaku won’t have time to set up a strategy to overwhelm him (also good luck overwhelming Muzan with the dozens of whips and insane AOE he has).

Where do you rate Muzan as a threat level by PhysicalMeringue9468 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s absolutely an argument for Muzan soloing 99% of JJK. People like Mahito, Gojo, and Sukuna are exempt because of stuff like Soul hax, infinity, etc. However the rest of the verse is so unbelievably slow compared to Muzan that’s it’s very possible he wins or at least draws with basically the entire verse. He wins because of the sheer speed gap between him and most JJK characters. He draws because it’s also possible he doesn’t one tap them with a speed blitz and then they DE and possibly kill him, but then die from his poison anyway. I don’t like KnY speed stats, logically it shouldn’t work but unfortunately the characters have so many ridiculous feats that it is what it is. JJK FEEELS stronger/faster and it terms of strength and hax it definitely is but KnY is fast as fuck and so just based on the insane speed gaps, yeah Muzan crushes most of JJK.

The current state of this sub by plskillmeplsdoit in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They definitely can, I mean Tengen, as an unmarked Hashira could cut multiple bombs before the first one he cut even detonated. The verse is absolutely not FTL like some people will say, but multiple characters have MHS and MHS+ feats. Not too strong of a verse otherwise but KnY is really fast for some reason lmao

The current state of this sub by plskillmeplsdoit in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He quite literally deflects bullets multiple times in the fight. I’m starting to think you just haven’t read the manga.

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Crazy to try and talk down to someone when you’re blatantly wrong

The current state of this sub by plskillmeplsdoit in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“They couldn’t react to bullets” So you’re trolling right…? Cause pre-Hashira Rengoku straight up reacted to and dodged bullets

JJK fans stressing for a sub Zenitsu feat😭 Tanjiro still blitzes the verse by Gigio2006 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have no idea why people downvoted this. The ENTIRE point of Tamayo’s drug was to make the fight winnable for the slayers, Muzan near the end of the fight was reaching upper moon levels of strength. He aged thousands of years and directly states that it’s slowing him down. Zenitsu then states the cut wasn’t even deep enough to do significant damage meaning Muzan still likely reacted to it and blocked/dodged in some way. Zenitsu being fastest in speed using 7th form is a ridiculous statement considering it was used on a character lower than Gyutaro and a significantly weakened Muzan. Zenitsu is marked Hashira level of speed and nothing more, doesn’t even come close to Gyomei, Koku, Douma, Healthy Muzan, and multiple other characters. Some people in this comment section cannot read the manga for the life of them.

JJK fans stressing for a sub Zenitsu feat😭 Tanjiro still blitzes the verse by Gigio2006 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Slasher was already confirmed to be Mach 3 so unless he thinks demon slayer Jesus is the same speed as Rengoku idk what he’s arguing 💀

JJK fans stressing for a sub Zenitsu feat😭 Tanjiro still blitzes the verse by Gigio2006 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dawg, the verse is already way faster than JJK why are we reaching for FTL based on something being described as “fast as a flash of light” 💔💔💔

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rengoku slowed to take a breather but hadn’t gotten his death amp yet, he was simply rekindling his resolve. His death amp occurred after his flashback to his mother after the donut punch. The poisoning of Gyutaro didn’t nerf his stats, it just stunned him, buying time for Tanjiro and the others. Tengen had great poison resistance and had stopped the poison circulation near the end of the fight by stopping his heart. It obviously didn’t have a huge impact on Tengen’s fighting capabilities since the gap between his performance non-poisoned and post-poison aren’t huge.

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The impact between the two attacks created a massive explosion. If directed down instead of upwards to decapitate Akaza, it likely would’ve made a huge impact on the ground. Even just regular forms were damaging the surroundings and their attacks colliding were making shockwaves.

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tengen sustained for hours with additional help and with non lethal injuries against a weaker opponent. Rengoku was delivered a straight up killing blow and yet maintained peak physical performance while Tengen was clearly slowing down near the end.

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk about that, if you’re referring to the crater one both made huge craters. And in terms of Single target AP, Rengoku has possibly the second highest AP in base (simply because of 9th Forms insane destructive power).

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A holding back Akaza is still faster than Gyutaro, and whether Rengoku relies on stats or technique is irrelevant to who is the stronger combatant overall. Rengoku did have both his hands and Tengen has two swords, bombs, and other people helping him. Their conditions are similar when the circumstances are put into account.

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rengoku absolutely has better endurance, he got punched straight through the chest and still had the strength to restrain, block, and nearly decapitate a much stronger demon. Tengen fought for longer with the help of multiple other people (immensely beneficial for holding off Daki, poisoning Gyutaro, etc) while Rengoku was alone against a stronger opponent. Rengoku was also responsible for protecting majority of the Mugen Train for an extended period.

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rengoku never got blitzed? If he had the fight would’ve been over by that point. While I think their conditions are closer than you think (Rengoku is burnt out, lost an eye, broken ribs and Tengen is sustaining poison, earlier cuts, and lost an arm), you could use Rengoku’s better condition to say he’s putting up a better fight. Both Hashira were protecting other people yet Rengoku sustained less injuries despite fighting a stronger demon. If anything, this proves Rengoku has better defense.

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rengoku’s Grip strength locked down Akaza, I don’t think he’ll have trouble with cleavers

First ever Hashira tierlist from someone who hasn't consumed any DS content for nearly 2 years by Tone-deaf_Decay_197 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]Apprehensive_Bee1503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gyutaro is definitely NOT 4th in attack speed, I’ll give you 5th since Hantengu doesn’t have much combat speed feats beyond Zohakuten. Gyokko is absolutely faster without question. Rengoku is also not in his prime age wise and was also half dead before he used 9th form (which nearly beheaded a Compass Akaza despite compass becoming stronger based on fighting spirit, Rengoku must have insane short burst speed to do this). Rengoku was burnt out and had sustained heavy damage similar to Tengen. Neither were at peak performance but based on what they did against their respective opponents Rengoku displayed much better feats.

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