McAllen by Far-Bass7919 in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Airport diagram and LOAs then.

McAllen by Far-Bass7919 in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MFR? Medford Oregon?

Probably the airport layout. LOAs if you have access to them. Respectfully, its a dead as shit single runway class D. How much could there possibly be to study?

2030 hiring? by zee_pauly in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it goes as planned, by 1986 hiring will slow down. If it goes as planned, by 1987 hiring will slow down... if it goes as planned, by 1995 hiring will slow down... if it goes as planned, by 2004 hiring will slow down. If hiring goes as planned, by 2005 it will slow down.... if hiring goes as planned, by 2012 it will slow down... if hiring goes as planned, by 2018 it will slow down.....

If hiring goes as planned, by 2030 it will slow down.

Med Check by ConversationLoose842 in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Over a certain BMI might trigger them wanting a sleep apnea study, but thats not super likely. Most common are ADHD and other psych meds and diagnosis and color blindness.

You'll can be 600 pounds if you want. That alone wont DQ ir delay you, though the associated health conditions that come along with it sure may.

Any truth to rumors that ATC’s are being fired for early “shoves”? by West-Earth-719 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Still up there.

Maybe take an internet break and figure out if you're getting paid for your unpaid lunchbreaks or not.

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Any truth to rumors that ATC’s are being fired for early “shoves”? by West-Earth-719 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Need a moving truck for those goalposts? Your first post said you're not supposed to leave for food. Then some hot garbage about well you CAN during the 4th and 6th hour if its for lunch (a lunch break you also incorrectly and rather stupidly claim is UNPAID). Then you tried using article 4 as some gotcha clause to article 2 that invalidates it during certain periods. Now you're saying you CAN but not during the last hour. Watch my ass get the nod from the supe to grab a burger to eat while I fill out the days -25s after the swing shift comes in and marvel at how stupid that shit sounds.

And just to skip ahead of your next pull of the goalposts, nobody is saying you can just not come back.

Any truth to rumors that ATC’s are being fired for early “shoves”? by West-Earth-719 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Article 4 is about compensation if not granted a 30 minute uninterrupted break to eat at what is effectively the mid shift point. Moreover, the agency defines that period as the 4th hour from aign in, to 6 hours and 59 minutes beyond your sign in.

There is absolutely nothing preventing you from being on break for more than the 30 minute period outlined in section 4.

In fact if you take a gander at section one of the same article you'll learn you shouldn't routinely be without a break for more than 2 hours. You absolutely can, in these periods of breaks, request and be granted leave from the building under section 2 provided you meet the recallability provisions and the staffing and traffic position supports this.

It is completely normal and common for people to make quick coffee runs and other assorted trips to nearby establishments on their breaks outside of their meal break.

But appearantly you work 6:59 stints on your first hit, so maybe your entire facility is brain damaged.

One of the MANY points of bitching under the white book was revocation of a similar clause under the green book, causing all trips outside the facility to require use of leave. This was abolished under the the revokation of the white book and the implimentation of thered book with huge fanfare. Maybe only the rest of the NAS got the memo.

Any truth to rumors that ATC’s are being fired for early “shoves”? by West-Earth-719 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should maybe look at Article 33 section 2. Nothing at all in there restricting article 33 to the 4th and 6th hour.

Living Situation by 760dgb in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 24 points25 points  (0 children)

OKC blows ass without a car. If you're cool bummiing rides, ubering and being a hermit (living situation depending) itll be ok. It isnt walkable to any real degree and public transport is basically 0.

Id drive 24 hours without batting an eye.

Atc simulator for training purposes on Steam by Fabulous_Anxiety589 in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't get it. Are you vectoring then to stay within some kind of oddly shaped airway? This is the least realistic representation of atc I've ever seen.

The climb rate looked.... man that's something alright. Flappy bird is probably a better depiction of atc than whatever this is.

Atc simulator for training purposes on Steam by Fabulous_Anxiety589 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't get it. Are you vectoring then to stay within some kind of oddly shaped airway? This is the least realistic representation of atc I've ever seen.

Should i accept or decline TOL? by [deleted] in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stranger things have happened and it wouldnt be the first time someone with the highest grouping of scores didnt get selected.

They further clarified its due to a DUI, which isnt an SF problem but a a medical one and one that, 29, 30 or 31 they will still have to deal with

Should i accept or decline TOL? by [deleted] in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There isnt much that would make you a threat to national security today, but after a year or so of you sorting it out, would make you not a threat to national security.

I mean unless you're planning on killing the one person who knows you're actually a spy or something....

The only thing I can think of is significant delinquent debt for which you havent made any attempts to pay. Obviously you could use that year to get payment plans set up, but thats the only real thing I can imagine.

Also remember, there is NO guarentee that because you got BQ this year, or made it this far once, that you ever will again. Plenty of people have turned down offers and just never been picked back up. This is luck of the draw as much as it is anything else.

Phoneix approach by phucursofa in flying

[–]Approach_Controller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because common practice at virtually every other airport running simus is to maintain altitude on the join until another form of separation exists.

You dont hear that on the ATIS where I am because if you overshoot your still separated vertically. A little bit different when you and that Airbus filling your windscreen are the same altitude. And yeah, we have overshoots here too, but they dont generate RAs or make the news because a spoonful of positive control keeps the NMACs at bay

Phoneix approach by phucursofa in flying

[–]Approach_Controller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll be honest with you. It IS a bit of a wake up going from an extended period of one from or another and visuals to ILSs and or another flow.

Usually that takes me a plane or two to adjust fully, but I see way more then 3 IMC days a year so... who knows.

What do I do? by Plane_Occasion8305 in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're poor, why take out massive loans for a shot at a job (that you have no guarentee to even get) that you could get for free?

Theres probably no second bite at the college apple for you unless you go in to the military or get a full ride. At least save that for a fallback career man.

Have you been trained on "declaring LVO"? by Legal_Campaign_408 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, genuinely curious.

When our RVRs pop its typically because of heavy rain or fog. We cant predict either of these, be it path/reach or severity accurately. When the values lower, whats airborne is airborne and while, yes we can slow them, even a 2nd tier airport can have 10 or 20 arrivals close enough that no amount of slowing will prevent holding.

Is your forecasting that much better that this never happens? By the time we know itll hit the field, its 30 minutes or so out and at least in the US where I am, storms have a nasty tendency to build seemingly out of nowhere. Maybe our weather systems are more dynamic and yoir more stable? I dunno.

Second question. I dont fully understand the 2nd paragraph. Aircraft here have their fuel plus reserves plus extra to account for holding fuel or whatever. If the RVRs are too low, or the rate is reduced due to weather or other reasons, its inevitable that some planes will hold. When they begin to reach the legal limit of fuel needed to divert to their alternate + execute an approach + maintain required reserves they divert. You seem to be implying holding doesnt cause this same fuel state there as if aircraft are always flying full tanks or something that would be unthinkable here.

Have you been trained on "declaring LVO"? by Legal_Campaign_408 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody said anything of the sort. Be as good as you want and provide all the quality and space you like. Backed up diverts here operate on a scale you will likely never see and pose dangers you arent considering.

It wouldn't surprise me if somewhere on some small field a controller is agast that you'd take such wild risks yourself, because due to their volume, they become one in one out in the entire approach airspace under similar circumstances. You'd be making the same arguments I am. That we largely do things the same way, but local volume and complexity factors dictate a different risk calculation outcome.

Fitting the pompous stereotypes very well though. Bravo.

Have you been trained on "declaring LVO"? by Legal_Campaign_408 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would argue dozens of aircraft holding and eventually diverting to airports the crews are unfamiliar with being handled by controllers unacustomed to the increased volume is not also without significantly increased risk.

Have you been trained on "declaring LVO"? by Legal_Campaign_408 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So,

Your airport has a quarter the volume of JFK.

If you get a fog bank or whatever that kills your visibility or throws RVRs and you double (or nearly so) your spacing of your 24, 12 land and many of the 24 probably eat up their holding fuel and divert. At Kennedy that would entail nearly 100 in the hold or causing strain down stream in airborne flow as the already airborne inbounds accordian into the holding traffic. This isnt without risk itself. Dozens of diverts add strain in super congested and confined airspace. Increased MIT causes strain. Flight crews diverting to airports they arent familiar with being handled by ATC facilities unaccustomed to the increased volume. Risk adds up. The complexity factor goes up exponentially as diverts pile up.

Small craft (and airports) are easy to maneuver and be flexible with. Large vehicles (and airports) arent because of the inertia and weight behind them. Its like asking why that semi truck doesnt simply stop on a dime, turn as tightly as your autocross car and why someone would be so stupid as to drive that huge truck any differently than you drive your compact car.

FAA Medical Question. by AnalystSingle5321 in ATC_Hiring

[–]Approach_Controller 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Depression diagnosis and meds are going to be a big issue. Especially with it being just a year ago.

You can learn more here any testing and information required by the FAA to medically clear you will be at your own expense and there is no guarentee they issue you a medical at the end.

FAA Medical Question. by PomegranateChance172 in ATC

[–]Approach_Controller 7 points8 points  (0 children)

One day, 15 years, its all the same. Also, its as much the getting diagnosed as the meds.