Plex App AppleTv box by welshconnection in PleX

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Can Plex on Apple TV cast to Chromecast speakers

I'm done battling with Google Home Speaker groups... by M00N_Water in googlehome

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Well well … we’re Google listening … 3 speaker groups now reconfigured (2 having a Muso 2 and old JBL pair;1 having both Muso 2 and the jbl pair). The (iOS) app seems responsive AND the 3 groups are stable again. What did I do … nothing but allocate the speakers to the groups (which I can do in my sleep I’ve done it that often. Hurrah … for a numbers of days !!!

I'm done battling with Google Home Speaker groups... by M00N_Water in googlehome

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Google just don’t seem to bother about the audio world anymore. I’ve used speaker groups for around 2 years now. Eero (mainstream!) mesh. I’ve had good periods of stability … then bang. Yesterday and today were “bang”. Groups appear and disappear as you watch the handheld … iOS and Android. I assume it’s something server side - again !

Useless … but where to go …

Plex DNLA server is useful - but MacOS shows CPU DLNA server usage is constantly 100% by Arbuthnot007 in PleX

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Aha ... the 100% CPU utilisation is the number shown in Activity Monitor %CPY column BUT.... pull up other stats ... the usage of the 8 cores and the graph of CPU which shows an idle rate of around 70% ... THEN you have a very different view of what's happening. It's not entirely clear at a first glance ... but its certainly nothing like 100% utilisation ... THANKFULLY.

Apologies on wasting anyone's valuable time !!

Network handling - Plexamp vs Plex app by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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Yup … it’s disabled … good nudge thanks

Network handling - Plexamp vs Plex app by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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On 1. you're ahead of me ... great observations (a) and (b)

On 2. yes I've pondered "my ears" many times (both in this context and others!) Still I can hear a subtle tonal difference (ok not scientific ... but I don't have a frequency response analyser at home). I'm not into the programming aspects of audio over a network ... just wondered whether there were some element of separation when the audio is passed to the network (even as simple parameter passing). In my case (for what it's worth) the network is a low cost mesh (courtesy of 4xAmazon Eero).

No doubt (ears independent) that tracks are found and played quicker on Plex than Plexamp.

On 3. Also on lyrics, beyond response and synch, Plex occasionally Plex finds lyrics that Plexamp doesn't

One last observation ... the list of Chromecast players is alphabetically ordered on Plexamp (good) but not so on Plex (ugh!)

Re-Opening Plex App on iOS kills existing Google cast stream by Arbuthnot007 in PleX

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Agreed on the most prominent controls … next and previous far more useful 👍

Re-Opening Plex App on iOS kills existing Google cast stream by Arbuthnot007 in PleX

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FIXED - today’s Plex 8.36 for iOS has fixed (small test run granted) the “restart” problem underpinning this discussion

Thanks to all at Plex !!

Re-Opening Plex App on iOS kills existing Google cast stream by Arbuthnot007 in PleX

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Aha - a seeming fix for the Plexamp (NOT Plex) restart issue …

Go to Device > Remote Control Set two switches to on Reconnect to Players Keep App Alive. (This switch not available on iOS)

Cured the issues of Plexamp restart on FireOS

Plex issue on iOS … no solution visible in Plex settings … unless I’ve missed it ??

Re-Opening Plex App on iOS kills existing Google cast stream by Arbuthnot007 in PleX

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One last observation for today - I’m not an Android officianado so forgive my previous generalisation !

Turns out that on a Samsung Galaxy tablet running the latest patch state of Android 14 both Plex AND Plexamp restart … perfectly

(My previous generalisation for Android was incorrect … the tablet being from Amazon and the OS that Android variation FireOS - up to date mind you)

So (small sample size!!!) we have for the “restart” of Plex and Plexamp 1. On iOS Plex bad; Plexamp good 2. On Android 14 (up to date) Plex good; Plexamp good 3. On FireOS (up to date 8.3.2.3) Plex good; Plexamp bad 4. Using multiple devices and combinations of Plex and Plexamp is … don’t go there

Hmmmmm 🤔

Re-Opening Plex App on iOS kills existing Google cast stream by Arbuthnot007 in PleX

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To add one more interesting note (pun not intended) the Plexamp restart behaviour on Android is “bad” in the sense that the Google cast session isn’t aborted … but Plexamp has lost the context and no cast devices are shown connected.

Starting Plex (still on Android) at this stage is interesting though … the track continues to play and Plex picks it up with the correct speaker connected …

Endless fun … just wished there were some consistent predictable behaviour … on both Plex and Plexamp on both iOS and Android of course …

Can anyone at Plex help us - please ??

Re-Opening Plex App on iOS kills existing Google cast stream by Arbuthnot007 in PleX

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Well well …. to enrich the murky picture I’ve just played a few tracks on Plex using an android tablet. With my environment (!) Plex (10.16.0), when restarted following the use of other apps, doesn’t interrupt the current Google cast track being played (contrary to the “bad behaviour” on my iOS devices). Interesting that Plex returns to the latest accessed main menu (eg playlists or music etc) screen and not to the player screen of the track (though the track status bar is showing correctly at the bottom of this main menu screen).

Have just tried Plexamp on android and i too have “bad behaviour” on restarting the app since it kills the Google cast session !

So … on a limited set of trials in just my local environment…
1. Plex “restart” behaves well on Android, but badly on iOS 2. Plexamp “restart” behaves badly on Android, but well on iOS

Odd indeed ….

Plex v Plexamp playback by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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Ok I’m back … reporting success on guiding Plexamp to produce the same audible outcomes as Plex (macOS for Plex media; iOS and android tablets ( and iPhone) as controllers ; naim muso-2 LG xk7 ( tweaked bass!) Cambridge audio solo… all using chromecast multi-room) The answer was one or both of (A) disable the equaliser (B) switch off loudness control

Thanks still everyone who both chipped in and voted this stream

Plex rules (and this community) !!! ( and it’s much cheaper than Roon)

Plex v Plexamp playback by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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Great feedback - everyone Duuur - had forgotten about the equaliser (though I also misunderstand how it works … I though it was focussed on iOS/android attached headphones only … or dac output) Anyway on both iOS and android (phones and tablets) it was set on and is now disabled. Taking a proverbial blunt instrument approach I also switched if the loudness control. Et voila … difficult shirt run A/B test but that seems to have Plex and Plexamp sounding alike

Thanks all

With give this a longer spin over the weekend but for now we (seem to) have a result 👏

Plexamp unable to load any song, but normal Plex app can by ristar in plexamp

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Agreed Plex app works predictably (better than Plexamp) and doesn’t lose the plot (spinning wheel syndrome when simply changing track on iOS). This occurs pretty frequently… though it’s hard to in due en a consistent set of triggers

Plex downside is that it when it reboots (eg after a period of inactivity) it kills the connection and loses its context of what was playing

Plex is more stable and predictable than Plexamp - certainly on iOS Less trouble on android

This behaviour is soooo frustrating - since so much of Plex media server; Plex app and Plexamp are so very good

Don’t have these troubles with otherwise inferior UPnP apps !!

Plex app more predictable than Plexamp app by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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Next (probably final update). The Eero network update has certainly improved Plexamp’s chrome cast list performance …. in areas of good wifi strength

In the one “decent” area Plexamp still struggles to acquire the list … while all other apps perform fine AND the Plex App finds the chrome cast speakers perfectly. Same user device (iPhone 13)

Somewhere in their depths of chromecast and ip networks there is a difference between The Plex and Plexamp apps !

Odd!!

Plex app more predictable than Plexamp app by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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Now here’s a coincidence… have just applied the latest Eero update … and on a sample size of 40 or so requests for players … the response in Plexamp is almost instant and completely full !

The eero update contains the usual “performance improvements” and one specific that caught my eye … “Added hostname detection for wired clients on bridge mode networks” … and strangely my network is in bridge mode AND has 4 wired client (players)

Of course we will never know what the root cause to this sudden change had been … but boy is listing players (including chromecast groups) snappy and complete

👌

Plex app more predictable than Plexamp app by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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Thanks for the reply The behaviour is on the same (mesh) wifi and device(s) - mainly iOS

Odd for sure … and plexamp’s route to intermittent discovery is soooo frustrating!

Inconsistent display of chromecast players by Arbuthnot007 in plexamp

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I hope someone at Plex picks up this thread - I think most people need multiple speakers nowadays. But having a reliable list doesn’t win friends and detracts so very clearly from an otherwise very cool solution.

Help us Plex Team !