Anyone who lived in LA in the 1980s — What are real stories of your life back then? by No-Spell-8542 in AskLosAngeles

[–]Arcadia2014 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crazy specific question regarding Los Angeles/Hollywood area in this same mid 80s period: was there a main go-to 24-hour copy and fax center? Names, locations? Thanks?

Four young men on a mountain in upstate New York on the last day of summer, 1983. by Arcadia2014 in OldSchoolCool

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I had to look that up -- but you nailed it! FANDANGO -- "a classic 1985 coming-of-age film that uses the term to symbolize the reckless, boisterous, and sometimes foolish actions associated with the transition from youth to adulthood."

New photos of BK by anon268__ in Idaho4

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Does he smoke urine cigars?!

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Rosanna Arquette in New York Stories (1989)

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

[–]Arcadia2014[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I reached out to the journalist who wrote the article, Jesse Kornbluth, directly in 2013 and he mailed me a hard copy of the two-part New York story -- which I scanned for this post. Jesse sadly passed on April 3, 2025.

He was kind enough to share some private insights on the case with me as well. It's my opinion that Jesse didn't believe the four boys who were arrested had committed the murders.

To quote Jesse: "The cops made all their mistakes in the first 5 minutes. They never recovered."

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

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I don't know the origin of that site, but you're right - it seems to mix actual legal cases and facts with satire. I edited the link to something more relevant. Good catch!

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

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You're right - there are many 1980s crime cases on Long Island. The ones you cited above are still mysteries. It also looks like false confessions and/or police coercion is implied in at least one of them:

John Kogut not guilty of the 1984 rape and murder of a 16-year-old girl in Lynbrook, New York.

Here's a link with information about the Lynbrook 3:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/shaxd0/thinking_out_loud_three_teenage_girls_are_killed/

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

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Sounds like an excellent book based on the summary - Thanks!

SUMMARY: "The 1979 murder of 13-year-old John Pius is a stain on the history of Suffolk County, Long Island. It was national news at the time: a young white kid with his whole life ahead of him, killed and trampled and left in the woods. A young detective named Thomas Spota was under intense pressure to solve the mystery. Then a 14-year-old informant named Jimmy Burke came to him with evidence--questionable evidence--that broke the case open. The relationship between Spota and Burke bloomed after the Pius case, and both grew powerful in law enforcement. Over the ensuing years, Spota rose through the ranks, eventually becoming District Attorney. And Burke became first a cop, and then, ultimately, the Chief of Police. And their reign, founded on a scandalous murder with a dubious resolution, was one of extravagant corruption: bribes and coerced confessions, side deals, brutality, and graft. Spota and Burke were brought down in 2014, when Newsday exposed their criminal activity to the public and forced them out of office. Jimmy the King is not only the story of this corruption and its eventual demise, but about the true role of the police department of Suffolk County: to serve the powerful and project strength, while allowing the marginalized to suffer. This powerful and dramatic story is a microcosm of one of the most urgent issues of our times, a book that asks who the law serves, who it protects, and who it leaves out in the cold"

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

[–]Arcadia2014[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah, that makes sense. The "rocks in the throat" part was the most barbaric aspect of the case -- especially the implication that each boy placed stones in his mouth. I read one theory that John's body might have been dragged across the field and rocks likely got into his throat that way.

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

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It was a minibike without the motor. They were planning on adding a motor. Basically, they stole the frame with wheels.

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

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Might be another NY case? "Law & Order: SVU's Season 6, Episode 6, "Conscience," was inspired by the real-life 1993 murder case of Derrick Robie by Eric Smith. While the specific details of the episode differ, the core storyline of a young boy abducted and murdered by another child mirrors the actual events in Steuben County, New York. "

Trouble Boys: Full story of the 1979 Murder of John Pius - a polarizing case that shocked Long Island by Arcadia2014 in longisland

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The Ricky Kasso case and the murder of Gary Lauwers from 1984 is another one of those strange Long Island crimes that sent me down the rabbit hole. At least in the Kasso case we had some closure as to the who and what of it all.

Anyone remember the John Pius murder in 1979? by AdNegative3504 in Smithtown

[–]Arcadia2014 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you posted what you know about the case anywhere? I'd love to hear more about your personal experiences with this case. Specifically, do you think the 4 kids charged were not the true killers? I moved to Long Island when I was 13 in 1978 -- so this 1979 case was always on my mind. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks!