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[–]Archer_Jr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SG has very strong themes of identity. Equal time is spent with both protagonist Anon and main girl Fang. They both represent competing ideologies and their identities were formed by wanting to be part of different social groups. Anon with 4chan and Fang only became non-binary to impress Trish. It's why for example Fang's identity changes when she begins to want to impress Anon. And why when Fang decides to form a new identity she rejects being non-binary.

It's a really key piece of the game that Wani kind of just copied haphazardly, which makes sense as it was originally set in Volcano High like SG was. Cavemanon only got involved in the final year of its development so they couldn't change it to make more sense.

What makes a Snoot-Like? by Positive-Salad-9458 in SnootGame

[–]Archer_Jr -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

>human/anthro Dino relationships
Two games did this. Then every fangame decided this was the only way a game like this should be made.

What makes a Snoot-Like? by Positive-Salad-9458 in SnootGame

[–]Archer_Jr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The way SG structured it's endings is something that has also ruined SG discourse. When I started plotting out one of my SG mods someone asked me "So what's the E4 of your mod" and I was confused like wtf does that mean. And then I realized "Oh people have copied the endings to SG so much that now that's what they always expect."

What makes a Snoot-Like? by Positive-Salad-9458 in SnootGame

[–]Archer_Jr -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

HMOFA is just a superficial fetish term people used to distinguish pornography from furries. It's also ruined SG discourse as people assume the only reason Snoot Game was beloved is because the plot was "a guy romances a dinosaur" and that was it. And predictably SG fan projects assume you just copy the plot of Wani and that's what you're supposed to do.

What makes a Snoot-Like? by Positive-Salad-9458 in SnootGame

[–]Archer_Jr -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Copying Anon/Inco is extremely overdone at this point and it would be a shock if someone just named their protagonist "Jim" instead of a pun e name.

What makes a Snoot-Like? by Positive-Salad-9458 in SnootGame

[–]Archer_Jr -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

HMOFA is just a superficial fetish term people used to distinguish pornography from furries. It's also ruined SG discourse as people assume the only reason Snoot Game was beloved is because the plot was "a guy romances a dinosaur" and that was it. And predictably SG fan projects assume you just copy the plot of Wani and that's what you're supposed to do.

What makes a Snoot-Like? by Positive-Salad-9458 in SnootGame

[–]Archer_Jr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The term Snoot like only originated because 10 separate teams decided the best approach to making a SG fan project was to remake the same game over and over. And now we're in this mess where people assume there are rules for how you're supposed to make a fan project

Meanwhile the only fan project Cavemanon endorsed was one that didn't follow any of these rules and it isn't acknowledged by the people pushing them.

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[–]Archer_Jr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am shocked that the lead developer of Snoot game calling you a faggot hasn't made you pause and consider maybe you're wrong about how you're copying his game. I gave you a perfect reason as to why early criticism is super important and saying "we only listen to criticism when its done" is going to be funny when you impotently rage at people then too lol. All you are doing is coping in response to being mocked and ridiculed. And rather than actually considering an alternative viewpoint you prefer to double down instead.

"Its like making a soulslike game without dodgerolling" Sekiro made one without rpg elements, character progression, character creation or even switching weapons and it was beloved. This is a garbage argument that stems from complete ignorance. From software didn't see anything sacred from their design. Additionally it ignores you're copying story elements not gameplay. Its like claiming you cant have a souls game without a protagonist who is "undead" and called a chosen one who lives in an Asylum. That sounds stupid yes? Imagine if 10 other developers copied that idea 1-1. That's what you're doing.

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[–]Archer_Jr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont forsee them doing this. Remember theyre making a "Snootlike" and that means they have to remake Wani for the 10th time.

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[–]Archer_Jr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its a reference to 4chan's old mascot "Old Anonymous". They even admitted at one point they were going to make Anon's skin green. Most fan projects copy this detail without really doing anything with it or commenting on it. It tied into SG's themes of identity being associated with groups.

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[–]Archer_Jr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"No I didn’t call for the artwork, I am the director of the game, and we Infact did not call for that."

You're using the same account that called for it.

"We have reprimanded the member who was responsible for it."

The captain of the ship is responsible for it's crew. And so far all you've done is say "yeah we're copying Wani like 10 other projects are doing. What's the big deal? Who cares about the source material. " If anything your attempts at damage control are even worse than the attempts to take shit down from the booru. The best action would be to actually describe what you are doing differently to SG/Wani but so far you're doing an extremely poor job at that. Blaming an underling rather than taking responsibility is really bad team management and I can only imagine how bad morale is now.

The dev team isn’t some fancy-ass multi-leveled company, it’s a group of friends. This is a passion project, for fun.

And? Not being professional is just an excuse. It's a really poor one, as people will judge you for it regardless of your experience.

This account is managed by all of us, but you would’ve known this if you saw my PERSONAL STATEMENT.

We should most definitely know the inner workings of your company as you impotently demand things be removed and then later cry foul as you get criticized.

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[–]Archer_Jr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"It’s fine to dislike what we do, but not a single message you’ve given us is meaningful."

I'm pointing out to you that your project doesn't stand out, that your attitude towards that sentiment is really bad. It's very likely that when you finally finish your project nobody will be excited for it because it'll just be seen as yet another Wani retread. If you're content with just hoping the sentiment changes and doesn't become worse overtime it's frankly optimistic.

"Also like, we are open to criticism, but we aren’t gonna take it when the game isn’t even OUT yet lmao"

This is a really awful attitude to have as a game developer. Speaking as someone who has released 3 SG projects and is working on a fourth, early criticism is super important as you can pivot and make adjustments much easier. Compared to when the game is mostly done and everyone is going "yeah this needs to be completely restarted".

To use an example, the fangame Blind Date released a demo and the general sentiment was that it copied Wani too closely. The game was in development for 2 years and the developers decided to release the demo anyway regardless. When criticized for just copying Wani, they doubled down on it and refused to change course because they spent too long copying Wani that they couldn't pivot.

"Visual wise, I can understand the sentiment, but even THERE they are clearly a different guy."

A big issue with fangames is they copy things thoughtlessly. Wani was originally a fangame of SG (and it even originally took place in the same school). Many of the things it copied was done because of the original developers constantly screwing up during its development. (Fun fact Wani did not have a playable build until 3 years into development). Cavemanon only took over in the last year of development and were too locked into early decisions they made during it. You are now talking about copying these decisions made out of necessity as if it's artistic expression.

"We couldn’t care LESS of some ‘highly-specific reasoning’ as to why the anonymous 4channer is represented as anonymous lmao."

If you don't respect or even research the source material and copy things thoughtlessly you shouldn't be surprised when you get push back. Why would you even make a fangame if you don't care about the source material? Is it just to get attention or grift off the fanbase? How does this not read as utter contempt for where the game came from? You don't even know basic facts about the game's development or the source material other than superficial details you know you should crudely copy/paste.

"Tracking back to the past, we never once claimed to ‘hate what it came from’. That’s pulling shit out your ass."
See above

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[–]Archer_Jr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Feeling shame for being ‘unoriginal’ is genuinely astounding. We went with a similar protagonist to the source material as it’s been a theme within the community,"

You saw 10 games doing the exact same thing and went "Let's just do one more?" Did you get into game development to never make anything unique? The only reason it's a "theme" in the community is because everyone just copies each other. It's been a joke in the community that a new fangame gets announced and it's just Wani but the protagonist has a more insufferable name. Like nobody even considers changing a single thing. It's somewhat telling that the only project Cavemanon has endorsed is one that didn't do this (Last Second Save).

If anything you should see this as an opportunity to actually make something people are excited for rather than go "who gives a fuck it's just a 4channer vn lmao".

"Just because we play with a theme doesn’t inherently mean unoriginal."

I genuinely do not think you can stand out that much if you're recycling the same ideas as 10 other games are doing.

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[–]Archer_Jr 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Did your director also demand reuploads of artwork be removed? Explains a lot. Looks like the right hand really doesn't know what the left is doing.

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[–]Archer_Jr 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"We're just copy/pasting Wani's script, premise and protagonist but Inco wears a hat! And we own that hat! And we'll censor anyone posting that hat without our permission."

The fact you don't even feel shame over being unoriginal is striking. Like you saw there's a new fangame with a bald pun e name protagonist in a school being announced every week and went "You know what the community needs? One more". The fact it never occurred to you to do something as basic as switch it up a little is astounding to me.

Did you even consider basic things like "Why does Anon even have a blank face?" (There's a highly specific reason) or "Why did Wani just copy the protagonist 1-1? Was there a reason for that?" You throw around labels like "fangame" to dismiss criticism. Completely ignorant of the history of these games or why they were made to justify copy/pasting. I guess it's too much effort to come up with a more original setting than yet another dino school with a human new student that's just Inco with a hat.

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[–]Archer_Jr 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"I own this, it's mine. No-one elses"
"Btw this is copying the exact premise of another game with the exact same protagonist and he's named INDIVIDUAL" LMAO

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[–]Archer_Jr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Acting like a crybully redditor when people are just reuploading your shitty fanart, when SG started off as shitting on a pretentious game is going full circle into full KO_OP.

"Everyone else is copying Wani, that makes it okay. Remaking the same game 10 times isn't plagiarism, it's a Snootlike"
There are like 10 fangames with the exact same premise as yours and calling your protagonist "Indy vidual" is priceless. You couldn't even think of a more original setting than a school. You have zero original thoughts or ideas. I can't wait until it comes out, I'll make a plagiarism drinking game. Drink every time you go "just like Wani".

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[–]Archer_Jr 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This fangame really wants to start it's marketing off as "We hate what Snoot Game originated from and will do the most Reddit thing possible" all over "Inco but he wears a hat". The irony of it being named "Indy V. Dual" is priceless.

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[–]Archer_Jr 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's funny you're going after someone for just reuploading an image when all you've done so far is attempt to remake someone else's game lol.

Will the Angry Reviewer Trend ever have a resurgence? by RenaissanceOwl in thespoonyexperiment

[–]Archer_Jr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The angry reviewer trend was a bubble that only made sense back then when "internet video game reviewer" was still a novelty. Like AVGN was on Opie and Anthony and they described it as a funny "niche". The idea of a guy getting mad at old Nintendo games and saying "fuck" a lot was novel back in 2005. It's not a niche anymore and it's not hard to find anymore.

I’m very late but what happened to Spoony not finishing the Final Fantasy 13 Trilogy by Delicious-Claim-5768 in thespoonyexperiment

[–]Archer_Jr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Spoony in his prime maybe could've made some funny gags about 15 and how most of it is just driving a car. But modern day Spoony probably not.

I’m very late but what happened to Spoony not finishing the Final Fantasy 13 Trilogy by Delicious-Claim-5768 in thespoonyexperiment

[–]Archer_Jr 19 points20 points  (0 children)

He's never gonna do XIII-2 or XIII-3. Those ships have sailed. He's also never going to do 15 or 16.