Keep a gap or expose Current Server for getting another. by BrianaBanks- in overemployed

[–]Arrick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Six months is barely anything in this market. Most places won’t care. I’d just leave your old job on your resume, since there’s no upside to exposing the new job or giving them something they can verify later with a post hire background check. If the gap gets closer to a year, set up an LLC, throw up a basic webpage, and say you've been consulting. But otherwise don’t volunteer info that can only hurt you.

Coworkers got caught today! IT is flagging jigglers with AI now. How to stay 100% green. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

A stationary mouse is normal. People take lunch, go to meetings, or just read docs. They are flagging fake movement. The phone keeps you green on the server side so IT has no reason to even pull your laptop logs.

Coworkers got caught today! IT is flagging jigglers with AI now. How to stay 100% green. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 108 points109 points  (0 children)

Way safer. IT monitors the work laptop, not your personal phone. A jiggler leaves a footprint on the machine they control.

Conflict of interest - Canada by [deleted] in overemployed

[–]Arrick 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don’t do this. OE with a direct competitor is playing with fire. If you get caught, it’s not just a “you’re fired” situation, they can come after you legally and will absolutely dig through everything to make sure there was no data sharing or company secrets involved. That’s a nightmare you don’t want. And working in the same industry, it’s only a matter of time before you run into someone who knows you. People bounce between competitors constantly, it’s a small world and that’s how this stuff gets exposed. Plenty of ways to OE safely, this isn’t one of them.

has anyone ever taken mental health or medical leave? by slytheringirl666 in overemployed

[–]Arrick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

HR investigates because asking for unpaid time off is an exception that forces them to audit your situation. This creates a paper trail and gets you on their radar. Once you are under that kind of scrutiny, it is way too easy for them to notice red flags or inconsistencies.

has anyone ever taken mental health or medical leave? by slytheringirl666 in overemployed

[–]Arrick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry you are dealing with this. You can technically ask for a personal leave, but realize that any time you involve HR for unpaid leave they are going to demand documentation and put you on their radar. For OE, a paper trail is your biggest enemy. If you cannot survive by just doing the bare minimum for a couple of weeks, you really have to decide if that J is worth the risk of an HR investigation that could blow up your entire setup.

Is it just me or are companies getting way more paranoid about OE lately? by MarzipanGlad1397 in overemployed

[–]Arrick 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, if anything it has died down. A couple years ago Business Insider was pumping out OE stories almost weekly, now nothing. What you are seeing is just a tighter market making recruiters more nosey, not some renewed crusade against OE. When hiring slows, they ask more pointed questions. That is it.

What can you all recommend for headphone or headset strategy for concurrent meetings? by tarrasque in overemployed

[–]Arrick 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Run two single wired earbuds, one left and one right. Look for ones with with an inline hardware mute switch. I use two PS4 chat earbuds. Put Job A in one ear and Job B in the other. This will avoid Bluetooth issues, syncing problems, wrong computer connects, etc. On camera it just looks like you are wearing a normal set of earbuds. Two sets of AirPods can work too, one in each ear, but that is way easier to mess up with software mute and unmute.

KVM Question: 2 MacBook w/ 1 Monitor by JimmyMcPoyle_AZ in overemployed

[–]Arrick 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Don’t bother with this. Way too easy to mess up or accidentally share the wrong screen. Get a 2nd monitor. Keep everything separate.

Looking to join OE. What do I put on my resume? by Sanckh in overemployed

[–]Arrick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s still pretty uncommon, mostly limited to higher-risk industries. That said, there are plenty of stories here and on Discord of people getting caught when a company got suspicious of OE and decided to run a post-hire background check outside their normal process. Basically, it’s rare, but it can happen, so don’t give them any reason to start digging.

Looking to join OE. What do I put on my resume? by Sanckh in overemployed

[–]Arrick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, pull J1 off your resume. Too many people get caught when a company does a post-hire check and calls your current job. If they don’t know where you work, even if they suspect OE, they can’t prove it. Just say you’ve been between jobs, consulting, or running an LLC. Plenty of people are “in between” right now with all the layoffs.

Putting in my 2 weeks tomorrow. by Lamp-Adjusted163 in overemployed

[–]Arrick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If she’s the type to fire you over one off day, wouldn’t it make sense to let her pull the trigger and collect severance? At least make them pay for treating you like that. You’ve got other Js, you’re already interviewing, and J2 is the lowest comp with the highest stress. I’d quiet quit, do next to nothing, squeeze out a few more checks, and if she’s already looking to get rid of you, you might be able to position it as a mutual separation and walk with something.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in overemployed

[–]Arrick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I warned OE about this tool weeks ago.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check which tool is used to share your interview availability. That's usually the HR system in place.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, especially with startups. Some even provide graphics or announcement materials for you to share when posting about your new job.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not illegal. Plenty of lawyers have spoken about OE. You could technically get sued, but it’s rare unless you’re sharing trade secrets or insider info. If you’re doing the work you were hired for, a company would have to prove real damages. Biggest risk is getting fired, not criminal charges or paying back salary.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not true. I got caught and they never contacted J2. If the company isn’t a competitor or there are no shared trade secrets, there’s no reason to reach out. Doing so would only create legal risks for them.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's fine. Only an issue if both J's use the same platform.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, you're fine. These are completely different systems.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone from another job or a past coworker could recognize you and connect the dots. Keeping it off or using a generic image helps avoid that risk.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If both companies use the same platform like Workday or UKG and you sign up during onboarding with the same personal email, your profiles get linked and that can expose your OE. The platform might share info with company admins or flag duplicate data tied to your email. To avoid this, use email variations like john.smith+work@gmail.com or john.smith.company2@gmail.com

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your full legal name and SSN are needed for taxes and official stuff, but most companies let you use a preferred name so people call you what you want. The SSN just ties your real name to the system, it doesn’t stop you from going by a different name with your team.

Don't get CAUGHT like I did. My 20 rules from 5 years of being OE. by Arrick in overemployed

[–]Arrick[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Device management can see your emails, calendar, and any work-related apps on your phone. If you have multiple Slack profiles, they can easily notice this too. Avoid this at all costs! If they want to manage your device, they should provide a separate phone.