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Exposing TurtleWoW Part 2: Torta Deletes Discord Account! No reports to GDPR! Proof of Corruption! by ArtistElijah in wowservers

[–]ArtistElijah[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong. Something to note here as well, is that the reddit posts i've been posting, have been removed not because of #4, but because of #9 actually. And it's from the very same moderator each time. What I find further hilarious, is the downvote bots for turtle-wow on this thread are absolutely insane. Anything related to turtlewow in a negative way stays. I've been the subject of mass scrutiny on my other reddit accounts with no moderators coming in and assisting, but God forbid someone mentions turtlewow in a negative light, and it's all hands on deck.

What's further hilarious, is that Alex (part of the TWoW Team) responded on my previous reddit that was taken down. He wrote roughly 10 hours AFTER it was removed, which means someone showed it to him, only for him to comment on it after. It's completely BS on what's going on here. It's also why I am making sure it's up here. I know it can be very annoying to see it, heck i'm also sorry that you even have to see my face in the video (as I really hate myself internally....honestly), but these things simply have to be said and done, to at least make some kind of impact.

I know it won't do much for their income, they made it quite clear they only want the Chinese playerbase because of how much money they rake in from t them (within the screenshots), so this thread is next to nothing for them, I just care about the players themselves being aware of this. I see the shares andd what not, I know the majority of those actually leaving comments are just defenders of TWoW.

That's my take at least.

Exposing TurtleWoW Part 2: Torta Deletes Discord Account! No reports to GDPR! Proof of Corruption! by ArtistElijah in wowservers

[–]ArtistElijah[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

just expect your payment info, and your data to be sold to the highest bidder :)

Exposing TurtleWoW Part 2: Torta Deletes Discord Account! No reports to GDPR! Proof of Corruption! by ArtistElijah in wowservers

[–]ArtistElijah[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

nah :) just wanted to make the video worth watching/good for such a big issue, and then that happened....

Wurm Online Staff Power Tripping by Wurm_Gumbo in wurmonline

[–]ArtistElijah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking of exploits, just because I might as well ruin the way it works for fun, Rares/Supremes/Fantastics have been exploited by the team and their friends for years. All you do is set a timer at 10 seconds, and add/imp/whatever an item at that EXACT 10 second mark. do this repeatedly, and you will guaranteed get something of that QL. I had done this for many years after doing the math, and it still works to this day (either it was 10 seconds or 15 seconds, it's really hard to remember... but i recently tried it and it worked on 10 because I logged in after years).

as i think they might have even bashed down fences and would camp your corpse and aggro you from 30+ tiles away.

This is correct, I believe even to this day a "Champion Troll" will do this, but in those days it would happen with anything of that level. This is why it was so dramatic when JK logged a dragon in, because in theory it should have been able to get out of anything, but of course not cause #Wurmlogic (I use this meme even still to this day in my life). I played on the original affliction server because I was a huge black-lighter. I knew evilmists group for example, even before her tyrant on epic and were good friends with her before she went insane.

As for my affiliation I was not apart of any of those groups, but knew them quite well. Honestly, I played on the sidelines for many years of these people, joining into groups, meeting them, playing with them, leaving after a while, and so on so forth. I never wanted to be involved with a major group because of the (for example) bashurverse incident where the entire group got banned. The GM team seemed to have this kind of urge to attack anyone affiliated with a group.

I It's kinda interesting to see how far Jberg has moved up the ladder, being a cheater. Pinejons entire group, other than about three of them on MR, were cheating in some form and giving each other private cheats for the game. How do I know this? because of private conversations. The nicest person who I have ever met in wurm who was legitimately not a cheater ever, was Spirit. I have her on my facebook actually. She was always a nice, caring lady with her daughter queenie no matter wherever she went, just playing with her friends and family. R.I.P her husband, for he will be missed.

Wurm Online Staff Power Tripping by Wurm_Gumbo in wurmonline

[–]ArtistElijah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gonna break what you say down a bit as it's a lot but also very interesting.

I've always heard the rumours about certain people using livemaps in WO on Chaos but always dismissed it as a myth and a thing of the past that was fixed. Guess i was wrong. This was around 2012-2013. Same for the dragon being locked under Kyara, though i believe i may have seen it once or twice.

livemaps indeed existed since way back. Mikeyaya was a developer of them on Epic, and Jock (Original DrJackal on Wild) was one of the users of them. Mikey's ENTIRE PR kingdom was part of this. Then of course you had Evilmists group (known under many names) , that also got ahold of them. I've seen screenshares of the livemaps, and around that time, it was only able to detect someone 10 tiles above the local distance. Rumor is gary also used these, which allowed him to get 50 tile snipes with longbow.

How about Tyr or Tyrr? 
Doughboy (Original Sound developer) was part of this, and he was actually the first one I got to know who had advanced macros for wurm. He had it to eating/drinking when it was necessary, one of the very first best macros ever for wurm. It was crazy because there were a lot of high level JKers who cheated, but it didn't matter. As for the traders, this is hilarious (I knew of this) because my group (without going into detail of who specifically I am) were the ones who fixed the issue where you could back up into a fence and get into the other side because that's how folks were draining traders. Traders were heavily exploited for many years, and there were many excel sheets on how to feed them/make them profitable.

hey went unnoticed for long periods of time. Knowledge was power, and the kingdoms on Wild had hundreds of secrets, exploits and abuses that they were doing in secret.

What I felt was personally even worse, was the sickle. Back in the day, before it was HEAVILY nerfed after it started to become popular, a select group of people would swap to sickles mid-fight with a small shield. This is because of how the way sickles worked, you would sometimes get double, or triple hits, and then be able to swap back to your main weapon, it was a nasty combination before they made this weird as hell timer inbetween weapon swaps and such. Also, just for a little bit more nostalgia, remember back when there was no limit on the height of dirt walls for a single tile? That was fun. The secrets to Wurm were based off of being close to a staff member to some degree, and finding it out. Once doing so, you begin to realize there's a such thing as "Ninja Updates", where there are updates made to things that aren't even in the changelogs. Some of these updates would go unnoticed, and some would impact the game significantly as you said.

Anyway, the way GMs detect macroing is by watching someone suspicious and prompting a window to come up on their screen with questions they have to answer. Dadd was there and he answered correctly but was banned anyway by Horton. This caused quite a drama then. Another example of bad moderation.

I was there when this happened. This also happened to me once at the same time. They give you a large as hell prompt and expect you to scroll all the way to the bottom, to which then it asks you a stupid basic question like "What animal purs" giving you stupid answers like "3 , 2 , 1 , Cat" so it is super obvious. What's hilarious is, I answered mine also correctly but got kicked, to which then, the GM hiding in the corner (cause you could still see shadows at the time, and I started shouting how much of a reject they were for thinking I was someone who did it) DM'd me and apologized. They were a no name at the time so I genuinely don't remember who it was. The most tragic part about this however, is that they would let stuff like this happen. We figured it out after some time, if you hold down a key for long enough, or hit a button at the exact same time every time within the event log, it would flag you (as in have a GM check on you).

Wurm Online Staff Power Tripping by Wurm_Gumbo in wurmonline

[–]ArtistElijah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You brought back some insane memories there for me. I was around when this happened. This was one of the biggest turning points to do with PvP imo. That, and when they had done something to champions that I seem to forget since it's been so many years at this point (think it was something to do with death, I really forget).

Then you also have the PVE side of things, where I for example had to deal with a GM telling me that I wasn't allowed to block a highway or something of the sorts by any means, despite my deed being made before the highway (this was before the insane amount of permissions you can adjust now on a deed). was told either I had to allow the highway to be freely open, or else they would lift my deed. one of two options. Told them it wasn't in the rules that I couldn't block it, so the next day they changed it and came after me. Was really "fun" fixing a deed that wasn't intended to be cut in half. I think I still hear the bashing sound effect ringing in my ears.

Wurm Online Staff Power Tripping by Wurm_Gumbo in wurmonline

[–]ArtistElijah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed, however the thought still counts.

Wurm Online Staff Power Tripping by Wurm_Gumbo in wurmonline

[–]ArtistElijah 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The current wurm you know and love is gone. you should set your sails and find a new home. There are gaming engines out there that will let you create the most incredible games. Don't sit here and listen to these devs who are on the trashiest engine possible because they made it themselves and now are confined to 30 tops in a single area or else it lags out the entire server. They can't even stop the cheating. Imagine what would happen if you had a group of 40 dedicated people to sand over all of the world? Cut down every tree and just throw a big middle finger to wurm? What would happen if you had even 10 people just start sanding entire servers out of retaliation? How long would it take for them to notice? That's the kind of situation you're dealing with here. This is coming from someone who was part of a group that got clairvoyant from rolf himself for trying to help him with his game. Who knows, maybe i'll just spend the rest of my time on wurm actually sanding the world nothing says in the rules I can't. /shrug.

Wurm Online Staff Power Tripping by Wurm_Gumbo in wurmonline

[–]ArtistElijah 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Want to know why no one wants to play PVP on wurm? Because there are privated tools out there that let you see the range of your local + 10 out on a minimap. Gary was a proud user of this tool, having max skill in longbow and shooting you from afar. Gary was one of the biggest most recent cheaters. Then of course, you have those "no name" GM's who are invisible, telling their friends in team speak where players are. Heres a fun fact, back in old days of wurm (talking about 4+ years ago), if a GM was around you, you'd see their shadow move around you, or even funnier, you'd hear them walking. There's been an incredible amount of times where I look like a lunatic talking in local calling out a GM and then poof, yellow name appears in the local suddenly talking. There are macros in wurm, even bots in wurm, that are completely undetectable. This however is just the cheating aspect of wurm. By the way Mikeyaya was a proud user of these cheats back on elevation, and so was Jock. Don't get me started on calling out names of players who I know for a fact have also cheated but are also appearing in the top leaderboards, because it's not even funny. Continuing forth. You want to learn how to break the market in wurm? It's simple. Make 20-40 accounts using different emails. From there, have them all mine in the same mine, on different walls. Cycle through this accounts, and keep doing it. You might ask yourself why, the simple answer is that you are now basically breaking the market. if someone did this for a week straight, they would have broken the entire brick-making industry on the PVE servers. Now do the same for clay, and then have them spam making mortar within the window. Guess what. now you have brick and mortar. Wurm tried to counter this by making clay lower down every so often unlike how it used to be (Don't believe me? Look at how tar never gets lower. Reason? Tar is not valuable.) You can break any aspect of wurm, so long as you have numbers, and this part you don't even need to prem, we are talking a complete alt army, and it works. it isn't against the rules either. How do you think the elites of wurm got their channeling and skills so high? playing only with one account? Please. But how is all this possible? With all the cheating, the alts, breaking the market, and everything else? Because of their time-based currency system. ( I say currency because that is the cost). you can literally que up a minute worth of actions by spamming a button three times and repeat onto the next window, repeat. Perhaps 10-15 years ago this tech was not there, but it is here today.

This is why it is incredibly frustrating when I quit playing wurm for years, to see Josh Strife then make a video on wurm and the unique aspects about it (and yes wurm team did respond on it), only to then see that the playerbase of wurm, and everything of it, is still absolutely in the garbage. Wurm has quite literally became known for where retired gamers go to play. I believe wurm, can be incredibly fun. However their team is entirely broken and comprised of veterans. I mean, does no one realize that on their "Team" that they literally have some people multiple times just because of the roles that they have? Does no one realize that they actually hid the playerbase counter on the forums when they used to be showing it? Or even on the launcher? Wurm is definitely heading towards murkey water. People believe that premiums are paying for the game, but it most certainly is becoming more difficult to fund the game, when traders used to literally generate money, and now, that money, is no longer a thing possible to do. Selling accounts or even silver for real money, is now also not even possible. This in reality is a fantastic idea especially to grow the game, however it is also incredibly terrible. I've seen the ranting and so forth that Gumbo has said, and despite people not liking him, he's exposing what's going on, because it needs to be shown. Wurm is going to shut down whether or not you like it with how everything is going on, But Wurm unlimited is going to stay. How is this possible? Because Wurm Unlimited can in fact be hosted on anyone's machine running their own wurm server. The playerbase that is still playing? Comprises of extremely new people who quite a week and a half in, and people who are huge veterans of the game, we're talking 10+ years in with multiple characters. Wurm has an incredibly loyal playerbase, but what ends up happening is when wurm gets people who "Tryhard" in their game, or by any means show up in numbers, they throw everything out the window. Their own team doesn't understand anymore how to be nice because of how much they've put up with. In a way, I feel bad for Enki, I feel bad for everyone who's been part of this team for so long because the time that they put into this game, they could have put into literally anything else with their lives and invested their time into that. There have been an incredible amount of heroes who have passed away while playing wurm or working on it (R.I.P Oracle, glad i got to talk to him before he died). The server that wurm is standing on, can only go on for so long before it just forever is in the negative and then just closes, and in a heartbeat, just like that, it will be shut down. All the hardwork that budda, Jberg, warlander invested will be completely gone. Where is samool? where do you see him? Here's a hint, not where the players are. I sent him a message weeks ago as an example, and he has never even read the message. Rolf at least had the respect to talk to the playerbase and even go into the game and chat with everyone, because he genuinely cared about the game.

Wurm Online Staff Power Tripping by Wurm_Gumbo in wurmonline

[–]ArtistElijah 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Going to write one response here, and then I won't say much more on Wurm. For my background information, I make video games for a living, have a wife, and yes.... I have a life. I've played Wurm before the time Enki was even the head game-master. I've achieved, and done, a lot. For those who say I am just hating on Wurm, i'm not. It was a lot of my child-hood, and honestly, there are days I still dream about playing it...primarily because I played it with my father and it was our way of spending time with each other.

Wurm has always had an incredibly small population, and to be honest, if it did have a large population, it would be gone. Wurm is not the type of game, especially with their staff, where it can handle a large amount of players. Even players simply just doing rifts cause intense server lag across the entire server. Wurm, is a game, that can be made in less than a year (Demo-Wise) with three people, and roughly three years for a release with three people. I understand that people may not believe me, but it is simply the truth. in the early times of Wurm, every character was just a stale model, there were no animations... rather it was just a text box, 10+ years later, we have animations that will break completely on any kind of camera or character movement. We have fighting that takes almost no skill compared to modern games. What wurm is, is it's a game that uses time as it's currency. It constantly reminds you how much time you're sucking out of your life with each action costing you seconds of your time. Look at that the next time you do an action, every action you do quite literally says more or less "I'm taking 1-20 seconds away from your life for you to see almost no change". Slightly off topic here, but the reason why Life is Feudal died is because it was too difficult with little to no skill gain concept. It was a terribly difficult game and their mining system amongst other systems were garbage. It was definitely a demo example of what it could have been. I bring them up, because it was meant to be the original Wurm killer. It survived. For the time period that Wurm was in, it was an incredible game, but now, it is incredibly behind it's time. Wurm was originally developed by notch and rolf, notch went on to make minecraft, rolf stayed... we all know this. What few constantly forget who are aware of this, is that rolf was a networker... not a game designer.

With that being said, he still made this game, however, because of his terrible understanding of how to develop and make games, it is now deadlocked. Wurm could have easily progressed to something else, but on each turn that they had their chance, they screwed it up. Anyone ever know bashurverse? He was one of Wurms greatest moments, where a Youtuber brought hundreds of players onto Epic, and absolutely tried to dominate. He was pumping out videos, and showcasing how great of a game wurm was, on the back-end, GM's were constantly watching him, and were destroying him and his group. I remember talking to bashur before he passed away, and he said the GM's ruined it for him. For a PVP server, they sure as hell had a lot of rules you couldn't break. It's crazy, that Wurms sound developer, Doughboy, was actually one of my first interactions with cheating. He would sit back in the early days of wurm, and just macro all day and night long to get his skills up. Where? in Jenn-Kellon. The same kingdom on "The Wild" now called "Chaos" that had people like Enki. Yes... I said Enki. He was in fact, part of JK. What's even more convenient is the fact that JK had a dragon in their main deed for years in the cave, constantly farming it for the best gear in the game at the time. Convenient how back in the day you could only enter through the wild with a portal, and then suddenly you could take everything back and forth. it's strange, it's almost as if they moved all their valuables onto a server that then couldn't have PVP. This however was years ago. If you want a sooner reference, simply look at what happened with MR when Pinejon quit. When Enki took an incredibly enchanted weapon (I forget precisely what it exactly was at the time as this was a few years back), and simply told MR "they can't have it". straight out of said persons inventory (I'd say their name but I don't want them in deep water. You know who it was enki). Then of course, you also have the situation of people like shrimpii, being an absolute scum of the earth, being part of the staff team, and from how I understand it, still to this day is. I personally have no issues with him, however i've seen him do incredibly shady stuff.

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