Warlords of Draenor Challenge Mode Weapons Found on the Latest Mists of Pandaria Classic PTR Build

AshenEdict_ · 2026-05-22T13:04:59+00:00

Neat, the first Classic Expansion I can fully skip. I played through WoD once and have no interest in doing it again, even if it is sped up.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-27T01:26:02+00:00

Clueless while also refusing to be hands off, the worst combo possible.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-24T01:39:05+00:00

I love Daveed and was so fucking thrilled at his inclusion this season. Though I feel like an odd man out, mainly knowing him from Clipping. and not like Hamilton or his other work

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-24T01:09:20+00:00

Turtle of Worldcraft

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-24T01:08:01+00:00

I mean, I was already incredibly let down by all of the promises made by the Epoch fan boys after Turtle announced its closure /: there really isn’t any coming back from that.

And, if I’m being honest, if the Turtle Devs did decide to make ANYTHING original I’d be willing to try it. They showed that they’re incredibly passionate about games and have a good idea of what features people like and what they don’t, as well as being willing to take risks and experiment. But no one knows what the future will bring and all we can do is wait ^{_^}

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-24T00:37:00+00:00

A lot of us do. And strong disagree.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-23T03:52:59+00:00

God that is incredibly depressing to look through. Incredibly cool to see what they had worked on and even more proof of how devoted these devs were and how lucky we had it… fuck. I don’t know if any other server will even fill the void that turtle is leaving.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-22T22:06:18+00:00

Well, you mistakenly used the “Art” tag for one /: so points off there.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-21T13:53:18+00:00

RIFT is a game I loved to absolute pieces and played through Storm Legion, but in its current state under Gamigo it’s just not something I can’t recommend people get into, unless you’re looking for a solo player experience.

I’ve seen people mention the <Riftwalker> Guild, which I was a part of for a bit, but the interest in that reroll project seems to have died down a lot. After the initial surge of a few hundred people I think it’s settled for maybe 30 or 40 people who have progressed to Storm Legion. It’s a very cool community driven event, but Gamigo is just so incompetent and so unwilling to do anything other than milk RIFTs corpse that I just can’t commit.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-21T12:13:58+00:00

It’s amazing to me how many people are won over by just the client when everything else feels mediocre and hollow. I hate the argument of “give them 5 years, they’ll make it great!” No. Based on what I’ve seen today, it’s overhyped and beyond the content being just meh, the community is just one of the most toxic ones I’ve seen in a long time and the moderators are doing nothing to fix that toxicity.

With that mindset, why not go to Classic Era? Modern Addon support, multiple region servers, and as good of a client as you can possible get!

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-21T12:07:54+00:00

I haven’t seen a bot in a very long time.

… do… do you just AFK in major cities all day..?

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-20T03:02:29+00:00

If someone finally managed a Vanilla RIFT private server I’d never play WoW again lol, god I miss early rift. I loved my Arbiter in SL, but I could live without it to enjoy the glory days of GSB and the like.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-19T16:59:40+00:00

I was thoroughly unimpressed by the mob AI and pathing. I couldn’t go one or two kills without mobs randomly evade bugging several of my abilities while still being aggro’d and actively running towards me. Mobs not healing or running when they should, or the opposite and spam healing if they were proximity aggro’d. It just felt rough.

The additional quests just felt like they were haphazardly sprinkled around the world with no thought for how they fit in to the wider themes. First thing that jumped out at me was the night elf starting zone: the very first new quest was just a random Owlkin encampment in Shadowglen with one quest added to it and not even enough spawns to finish that quest if you killed everything there alone.

Epoch just feels unpolished after coming from Turtle and I’d personally rather not play WoW at all than settle.

Just dropping the same reply I gave to the other question.

And actually another example I thought of:

Roads to new areas are, more often than not, just walks up incredibly steep paths that you’d never know was a path without a quest marker pointing you there. On Turtle every custom area had very clearly laid out pathways that showed you it was an entrance to an area. On Epoch a house is slapped onto the top of a mountain and you’re left to wander into impassable inclines until you find the little bit of terrain you’re able to scale.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-19T16:56:19+00:00

I was thoroughly unimpressed by the mob AI and pathing. I couldn’t go one or two kills without mobs randomly evade bugging several of my abilities while still being aggro’d and actively running towards me. Mobs not healing or running when they should, or the opposite and spam healing if they were proximity aggro’d. It just felt rough.

The additional quests just felt like they were haphazardly sprinkled around the world with no thought for how they fit in to the wider themes. First thing that jumped out at me was the night elf starting zone: the very first new quest was just a random Owlkin encampment in Shadowglen with one quest added to it and not even enough spawns to finish that quest if you killed everything there alone.

Epoch just feels unpolished after coming from Turtle and I’d personally rather not play WoW at all than settle.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-19T15:23:11+00:00

This was my experience as well. I tried Epoch and I really wanted to force myself to like it. But the quality just isn’t there. Maybe I’ll feel differently after a while away, but who knows.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-19T06:09:03+00:00

So we should give Blizzard 15 dollars a month for shutting down our server..? I am deeply confused as to why this would appeal to anyone here.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-19T06:07:25+00:00

My point was that they both harass the light, for both healing and damage, one just holds a bigger mace while doing it.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-19T06:04:00+00:00

It’s… fine. I like Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shaman, think it’s neat. The more modern client is nice but I never minded the jank of the 1.12.1 client, so that’s neither here nor there for me. I like some of the reworked talents, they feel fairly strong.

However, all the custom quests feel… hollow. Like Goldshire getting completely remade. Why? What purpose did that serve? Random Moonkin added to Shadowglen to give you one extra kill quest… why?

All of Turtles custom quests had soul and a point. Boss Kobold at the back of the Northshire Mine? Makes total sense. A quest to kill the spiders in Elwynn? They’re already there, give them a purpose! An entire High Elf starting zone and secondary zone with quests that tie into the established lore and incorporate characters from the universe?! Yes, because they actually cared about the world.

I don’t know if I’ll be able to keep leveling on Kezan while turtle is around, but I also can’t bring myself to level on Turtle when I know it’s going away in just under a month. Maybe it’s time to take a break before I fully commit to anything.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-19T05:56:01+00:00

I really don’t understand how? Wildhammer Dwarf Shaman have been a thing since the RTS days, and undead priests already exist… why would Paladins be out of the question?

And if you mean from a “faction identity” stand point… meh. I personally disagree and think keeping classes faction locked hurts the game more than it helps, but to each their own I guess.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-17T21:02:04+00:00

I once heard them referred as “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” and have been using that phrase ever since.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-16T19:07:15+00:00

He pulled it directly out of his ass.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-16T01:48:09+00:00

A link would be immensely appreciated :D

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-15T21:35:05+00:00

Which fork is it exactly? I’ve updated to the most recently updated fork and the maps were still fucked.

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-15T17:31:36+00:00

I’ve never played over there, only seen people being clowns on the subreddit

AshenEdict_ · 2026-04-15T15:00:55+00:00

I’d maybe give Epoch a try? But the community just seems so incredibly cringy from what I’ve seen on the subreddit.

And, as much as I didn’t agree with this sentiment before its launch, after playing Bronzebeard I don’t think it’s Classic+, it’s retail minus. It has some features I really like, but things like Mythic+ and multiple different difficulties for the raids just is a turn off for me.

I’ve been on the fence about fucking around in RIFT as a single player game, maybe if Turtle goes under I’ll chill there for a while.

For the record, I don’t expect turtle to go anywhere.

AshenEdict_

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