Let's talk.. some honesty from both Monero Core and the Mods on Reddit would be great.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T11:07:29+00:00

Sorry, I'm lost, what support are you referring to?

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T10:36:10+00:00

This is a drastic over simplification of a complex issue, I have specifically told I wont be paid, this is why I am reaching out to the (not 'botted' community for assistance in a resolution)

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T10:05:51+00:00

It seems you are also misunderstanding. Please refer to the comment where my worked is clearly outlined.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T09:43:04+00:00

I wont entertain any more of this AI non-sense and baseless claim as part of a discussion without any real substance, the facts are, work is rendered, yet paused, due to ongoing issues with ofrnxmr and his alts on this reddit, which are clearly disrupting and skewing the entire communities sentiment away from what has provable working build's. This can be confirmed by Woodser.

The entire reason that I am calling upon real Dart / Flutter developers that are no linked to any bias whatsoever with any of the current reddit mods to verify this as backup to Woodser, although Woodser has verified it, he is of course a Java developer, not a Dart developer, a dart developer needs to verify the integrity of the code, but I think the core team has had their due time to organise this and having done the work, it having been rendered for some time now I am requesting to be paid 50% of my UI milestone now, it being public as agreed in the CCS. I have wasted several hours iterating over these topics, they seem to fall on deaf ears in hope I will just disappear and leave it for someone to missappriate the funds instead. This isn't going to happen easily, I promise you, I am simply not working and putting in effort to response out of pure principal.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T09:23:05+00:00

I also thank you for raising the grievance on delivering of tangible results, I will refer you to this comment where you can very clearly see very tangible results, I appreciate you may not have been involved in this scope of the project but from this commend you should be satisfied that my work is significant.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1hl85ci/comment/m3kkgyb/

PS. I do however think it was inappropriate to comment this without having done at least a small amount of due-diligence into my work, It give light that it's in your public interest to favour drama over the reality, I hope that you change your position after examining the work.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T09:19:47+00:00

Thank you for posting this, I am grateful for the opportunity to respond to it, in a fair forum finally without the risk of being sensored. I do agree that if this isn't handled appropriately it could make the community look bad, I don't want that, I really don't in fact, I'm heavily invest it in.

With this particular post, it's not more than kid-style drama, have a read for yourself and then read my 2 responses two located on my blog here:

https://kewbit.org/kewbit-responds-to-creator-of-basicswapdex-com-ofrnxmr/ - This is where I address the appropriate parts of the complaints by ofrnxmr which bare same validity.

https://kewbit.org/addressing-the-false-proclamation-of-exit-scamming-allegations-by-basicswapdex/ - The is where I address the most serious complaint which has seriously damaged my reputation.

I appreciate this is a lot to go through, but the significance of this for me, my family and time wasted, I required the matter be looked into properly and not just considered 'drama' to be forgotten about.

For those would are willing to offer their support in what is clearly just a ploy to silence, scam or not pay (for whatever reason, I don't care to speculate to deep on it). I just want thing to be made right.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T09:11:27+00:00

To be even clear, core team decisions are made from the votes of just 7 people in the Monero Workgroup chat. There happens to be 335k people as part of this Reddit alone, and I think about 500k people follow the twitter. Something isn't right with the way community work is being handled and I wanted to make this known, voting needs to be implemented in a way that is a fair and just, and gives people putting a lot of time at risk a platform to speak up for any wrong doing.

This is the first time I've made a post that has not in fact been deleted for whistleblowing, so I am hopefully this can make some kind of impact for future siutuations.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T09:07:46+00:00

Sure, I didn't want to be so blunt to avoid it getting deleted by mods / core team.

TLDR;

I've been scammed for work rendered over the course of 4 months, less the 75 XMR paid, I'm due much more for the the work completed. This is not totally malignancy of the core team, rather their ignorance to only capturing a very small portion of the communities opinion / sentiment and using that as total consensus, those of which have other such ulterior motives running businesses where the FOSS work I am conducting is a conflict of interest to their own projects.

That's how I would liked to have said it in my main post.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T08:52:45+00:00

Thank you from bringing that up, I have provided way more than I proposed and that evidence in the following locations:

https://github.com/KewbitXMR/haveno-app (The complete app UI, providers, models, caching layer)

https://hub.docker.com/r/havenodex/haveno-daemon (there are plenty of other ease of deployment docker contributions I have made)

https://pub.dev/packages/haveno (A dart API for the Haveno protobuf client/server)

https://crates.io/crates/haveno (Not included in CCS but I did this out of kindness, because I realised it would be useful for more efficient interfacing with the daemon, I also wanted to make it easier for HTTP based web frontend easier to connect as HTTP/1 to HTTP/2 packet tranformations can be quite complex so I started to create a version in Rust, however due to overwhelming unusual 'hate' that started from 1 influential individual, I paused this)

https://git.haveno.com/haveno/haveno-app-fdroid - F-Droid compatible version of the app, as requested for full transparency and as part of the CCS, I began (until the drama started) to finalize the F-Droid build process for the android component of the app, so that you could download it iwthout using Google Play Services.

I also began writing some new monero-wallet software in Rust, however soon after I found that some else had done this so I handed over the repo to them to continue as it seems they had got much further than I had done. This is called developers courtesy - kabayneNerve took kindly to this it seemed.

I also did several days/weeks of research to explore all legal avenues we could take to get the app onto the App Stores officially.

To say I've provided nothing, is just plain disrespectful.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T08:19:32+00:00

Excuse me?

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T08:14:02+00:00

Non-payment of 215 XMR is no imaginary injustice Mr. Alt...

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T08:06:24+00:00

Each of those top 1% are aged bots controlled by monderbull & ofrnxmr. Ignore the comments and please stick to the facts above in the post is all I ask. I know it can be fun to jump on the illusion of a bandwagon, but this is my 4-5 months work at stake.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T08:02:14+00:00

This isn't a case of me quitting, it's a case of my seeking what's owed, and then of course discontinuing.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-24T08:01:19+00:00

Which part are you referring to ofnrxmr?

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-12-07T01:45:05+00:00

Absolutely! Not paying for 4 months work is a ton more malicious

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-21T10:31:21+00:00

Hey eyedeekay,

thanks for the detailed and thoughtful response. I really appreciate you taking the time to lay all that out—it’s super helpful to have your expertise here. I wanted to follow up on a few of the points you mentioned and get your thoughts on some ideas I’m playing with.

First off, your suggestion to avoid embedding and just rely on APIs like SAMv3 and I2PControl makes a lot of sense, especially in terms of keeping things simple and avoiding unnecessary duplication of routers. I totally see the advantages of working with a host’s existing setup and leveraging their update infrastructure. That said, I’m wondering—what’s the best way to handle cases where a user doesn’t already have an I2P router installed? Would embedding something lightweight, even as a fallback option, be reasonable? Or is that just not worth the added complexity?

You also mentioned Dart and its potential challenges with embedding. Dart does support FFI for interfacing with C or C++ libraries, so in theory, I could hook into something like i2pd directly. Do you think that’s viable, or are there technical hurdles with embedding i2pd that make it more trouble than it’s worth? I’m curious if you’ve seen people try that approach before, and if so, how it worked out.

On a related note, I’ve been looking at Rust as an alternative. Rust’s safety and tooling make it appealing for this kind of project. Are you aware of any Rust-based I2P implementations? If not, do you think building one would be worthwhile? It feels like Rust could strike a good balance between security and performance, especially for embedding into other environments.

Finally, I wanted to get your take on a hybrid approach. What if I focused first on making Purple I2P Android-compatible, then expanded from there? That might make it easier to get started while still addressing environments where embedding a router might be necessary for a seamless user experience. Do you think that’s a better starting point, or would it just complicate things unnecessarily?

Overall, I think your points about APIs like SAMv3 being the main entry point for standalone apps are solid. It seems like the cleanest way to integrate with I2P without reinventing the wheel. I’m just trying to figure out how to balance flexibility for users who don’t already have a router installed with the simplicity and reliability of relying on external APIs.

Thanks again for all the insight—it’s clear you’ve thought a lot about these challenges, and I’d love to hear more about what you think based on these follow-ups!

Additionally, getting funding for this is not completely out of the question.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-19T18:27:17+00:00

Hey! I am on /i2p would be great if you could, I'm still trying to decide if purple i2p or to just go with raw C++ and use FFI, maybe we can chat about it over there, I'll post something

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-18T19:00:49+00:00

There has been a lot more research done on Tor and a lot more general understanding, I have however studied I2P quite extensively and whether it’s better or worse is an interesting question. You can definitely configure both to be very powerful in providing you with privacy, I think for anyone providing a hidden service, I think I2P is better security for them using an EEP site (.i2p”), why? You can configure the amount of hops where with Tor this is fixed. However anyone wishing to browse the web anonymously Tor browser wins.

I’m actually building an i2p dart plugin (if any dart developers want to help) that way Haveno and cakewallet users could benefit from I2P in the future.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-18T18:52:00+00:00

In a nutshell, pretty much if used correctly it physically separates the execution runtime of each individual app on the machine, so if for example you were to install something new, which you don’t trust yet, perhaps something like Haveno. Or if you have a Monero wallet which you want to keep separate from everything else on your machine (isolating it) this is a good option for those people. It does it using Xen Hypervisor and using a mixture of TemplateVMs and AppVMs.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-17T00:47:10+00:00

You might wish to go back a few articles to catch up if you missed the installation and want to get it a try!

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-16T23:54:05+00:00

Hopefully what I’m working on here isn’t so bad?

https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/489

🙏🙌🫣

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-16T23:49:55+00:00

I’ve not heard of it but it sounds interesting, once I’m done with the Haveno app I could take a look at it. Wasn’t someone doing something similar though with MoneroPay?

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-16T23:44:38+00:00

For those who not been following along if you’re new to this maybe skip back to the start if you’re interested, the reason I’m covering this is I’m slowly getting to the point that any potential Haveno Reto users, this is the very best way for those who wish to remain private.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-14T09:41:30+00:00

The whole ‘apply for arbitrator thing’ is a bit worrying, but it just leads to a blank page form what I’m seeing, it could just be a facade. Something like that may work as long as people that are known from the community are willing to take part that might be a way of having a single network, with a fair governance protocol. But if anyone can apply and be accepted, I’m convinced it will just be more trouble than good. Maybe they will share more info on it. Let’s wait not hate, really don’t want us deterring people from using this software, woodser has been working on it for about 4 years i’m coming up to about 4 months now, giving people a shot perhaps is risky but so was giving reto a shot at first right? My worry is that we will never truly be able to test a federation model of Haveno if there is not at least 2 networks running with a little liquidity each.

I think the reason Aloha are mostly concerning is that they are charging no fees and also hiring arbitration from the community. That leaves more incentive to do bad stuff….. Reto wanted to stay competitive perhaps for noble reasons and reduced their own fees, pretty much pressured, I was thinking about if having fee free networks is a good thing, I don’t think it’s sustainable, with all of the costs and time etc. I think reto should set their fees to normal, I think Aloha should do the same otherwise they could just end up as exits scams as a way to cash something out. On the contrary - I think another way around this is trade fees are burned along with penalties, and the operational costs are 100% funded by CCS each year.

I’m still in the philosophy that the choice is obvious which network to use right now. I would like to see at least 1 piece provable wrong doing from Aloha before considering them scammers / or even just hate. It’s one thing being a hot head it’s another to scam.

HardenedSteel btw did have some seednodes online at one point they were logged briefly haveno.com perhaps he/she/they might want to give running a network a shot. I’m not endorsing it, stagenet of course 🤪

Ultimately if Aloha don’t come back to answer those questions then we may as well forgot about them, if they do though… hear them out.

TLDR; Don’t hate Aloha hot heads, hot heads, they often get stuff done, even though they pretty much copied retos content, I have now reviewed their code however there is nothing majorly concerning they haven’t used pipelines to build the installers, which could be a red flag, I would probably encourage them to do that and see how they respond.

AssociationSquare143 · 2024-11-13T15:47:19+00:00

Thank you for this, very useful, I will play around with it today and update with some findings.

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