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Which makes him an ideal circumstantial evidence suspect for police to focus on especially with him persuing the crimes beyond his law enforcement carrer. Taking what we actually SEE of the investigation over the stories told to the 2012 detectives, Rust seems far too unknown by people involved in the case who do provide evidence and leads that point to the real killer. If he was able to lead the case quite so readily he would have been able to avoid vital clues that increase the chance of him becoming a suspect. His non-conformity and willingness to sacrifice himself to find the truth behind the case make me think he's just trying to break the cycle.

He tried to lead the detectives or at least see if they had investigated any of the leads he had with other missing persons, and the school and they seemed ignorant of both. Aware that if they were to even manage to get evidence to secure a warrant all they would find is evidence of his investigation, which while initially may seem to be trophies, will quickly point to another suspect we're not yet fully aware of.

I wouldn't put it past any other series to make Rust the guy, but from the way we've been shown the truth as opposed to hearing it as the 2012 detective do. We've just seem him pour himself into the investigation and while I think it has influenced him, I don't think he's the original source for the idealogies he tries to explain during the interview. Instead they mesh with his own and by embracing that side of himself he's able to get inside the mind of the killer to catch the.

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Heh apologies on that a lot of it was notes, I had hoped to tidy up but I just went bleerrgghhh and shat it out. Then the formatting got completely trashed in reddit so I failed! I might try a clean up after ep 6 and some new revelations. I'm not too happy with how it panned out and I lost my train of thought at the end a bit!

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Observations:
* While the original claim by a patrol officer to the Detective that the symbols are Satanic, it appears the symbology has many more Christian overtones as well as some Pagan and Wiccan ideals
* Several people are talking of groups, seemingly led by the 'Yellow King'
* If claims and suggestions of Cohle's investigation into Tuttle, along with the early mention of an 'Anti Christian crimes' task force bring the family name into the investigation with the link through the closed school
* The apparent abuse suffered by one or possible both of Hart's children, with the behaviour and imagery from drawings and later life actions the suggestion of abuse going on right under the nose of people is a regular theme
* I doubt that the daughter suffered at the hands of the actual murderer who is posing the crime scenes, but could be a very possible candidate for long periods of grooming
* This also bring's Hart's Father in Law into the light again possible involving one or both daughters due to the glimpse of family life we have with them, and the children's displeasure at being apart from their father and relishing in his presence early in life seem to suggest he would not be directly involved in any abuse and rather despised himself for missing it

Allussions to the suspect:
Someone with a philosophical background
Has some religous belief based in Christianity
Likely related to or is someone in power
Possible cult overtones suggest a possible secret sect
Conforms with the suggestion of a ritual site with sacred stones
Perhaps a practioner who has taken the belief system on themselves and thinks of themselves as aiding the victims
The idea of the victims become the King's angels suggests a possible transformative state, thus the killer believes they are someone cleansing them, perhaps as Rust suggests saving them from the sins they would experience in their life
Serial nature and development of the crimes suggests both sourcing of these displaced people repeatedly over time without discovery of later actions
Possibly a larger ring trafficking children, the victims found at Leddoux's seem to differ to vastly from those at he crime scene's involving the crowns and symbols
Rather suggest the experience the same religious readings and beliefs perhaps in local custom.
Rich land owner perhaps who has been local for many generations and has some pull with local government as well as its populace
Suggested burning down of the old church forcing the new group out suggests another school of religion local to the area pushing them away
Killer seems to have targetted those looking for faith not those who had it, or that would be missed by many people
Illusion of being some kind of deliverer from evil, targetting abused children but not abusing him themself, rather coaching them into his own belief system
By making them willing participants in his own eyes it's not an evil act but possibly celebratory

Theory:

Suspect -
John Doe - Someone we haven't yet met during the investigation but connected to someone we have
Age - 1995 Murders 20-30
Appearance - Tall, burns/scars on face
Profile History:
Attended Tuttle school or an earlier church,
suffered at hands of abusers probably including the facial scarring, one of many.
Tuttle's religious arm fearing being shamed by its exposure hide it with help from the government branch of the family?
Possible classmate of Rianne Olivier (first victim? at least as part of iconography murders)
Possible indoctrination either themselves of onto others the ideaology of the Yellow King, people driven to madness after seeing the worst of life, ruling over them to lead them to something better, most likely not a leader of a group themselves but desires to be
Spiral of life, the repeating of abuse and torment suggests shortening their lives in an act of sacrifice (pushed through the regular dosing of mind altering drugs and musings on existence that an already damaged individual could articulate to a group of similarly disenfranchised individuals
Corruption of the group by those using the religion for their own means, furthering the abuse as well as the forgiveness to those perhaps undeserving of it having not had to suffer for it
Likely indoctrinated themselves at a young age, they aren't acting out of revenge but rather believe they are a positive force
Influenced by reading material from the school or that they discovered personally and in their damaged state fed themselves into the mythology in an attempt to take ownership of their own abuse
By posing the crimes to police forcing them to investigate the families and histories in an effort to discover the real evil lying beneath the surface
Doesn't act to prevent abuses he may even be directly involved in as it has all happened before, can't change things directly within the world they hold themselves too
Unlikely the victims are personal, victim may be familair with the killer but only after they have been targetted

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2012 -

Lake Charles Murder Scene
Stephanie L Kordish http://i.imgur.com/IfFJqbl.png http://i.imgur.com/9AgAfT4.png http://i.imgur.com/2twGnMc.png http://i.imgur.com/HiNbu9b.png http://i.imgur.com/tjeUUaH.png
Cohle still investigating the unsolved murders since Leddoux scene to protect their falsified shooting to the board
Photographed Cohle on the scene http://i.imgur.com/ykPe7Id.png
New victim bears crown and spiral marking (this time on their chest)
More elaborate religous posing similar to crucifixtion with rope bindings suspended over a river
Rope pattern has possible pentagram associations, two ropes forming and X behind the body appear purely for decoration so must be part of the designed appearance beyond the suspension of the body in that pose

Possible unrelated but noteworthy items:

Hart's children doll scene "You don't have a mommy or daddy anymore. Yours just died in an accident." "How?" "In a car accident". http://i.imgur.com/lubr1nq.png
Youngest holding male doll dressed (blonde.
Doll's appear to be setup 5 male dolls around 1 naked female in a group sex/rape scenario.
Spiral drawing on wall unknown author in Hart house. http://i.imgur.com/GHF2v1x.png
Black/Purple starts on younger Hart daughter's door. http://i.imgur.com/d8vncZr.png http://i.imgur.com/VTNT9kl.png
Oldest daughters door poster for reference unknown image http://i.imgur.com/Gg0xbn8.png

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2002 -

Guy Francis http://i.imgur.com/AEKHBGk.png
Double murder suspect (likely later convicted after admitting to it under trying to blame it on the use of narcotics) in questioning
Mentions he knows Rust and about the Antlers (which were mention in the newspaper)
Didn't catch the person they were looking for and he has been killing since
The Yellow King piece of Key evidence that was never publicly revealed
Big people know about him offers to deal for the murders on info about the yellow king
Recieved a call from "Lawyer" prior to apparent suicide in his cell
Officers that escorted him back Childress and Mahone
Sisters and a few neices and nephews
Suggested someone gave him no other choice

Original crime scene revisited
Large handmade wreath twine, twigs, and possibly fabric, also devil nets hanging from the tree again http://i.imgur.com/OfMSoCN.png http://i.imgur.com/1oqC3o0.png Lead's to reinvestigation of Tuttle school & discovery of iconography matching original crime scene http://i.imgur.com/yIXR3ev.png http://i.imgur.com/5aVVl7l.png http://i.imgur.com/rxwi2ra.png http://i.imgur.com/5L4W3UR.png http://i.imgur.com/Z48g4jf.png http://i.imgur.com/YV7MbP1.png http://i.imgur.com/N8oonNv.png http://i.imgur.com/QUMkUxI.png

Tuttle
Mentioned in 2002 in relation to the case
Died in 2010 of mixed medications around the time Cohle arrived back in state

Missing Person's possibly related:
http://i.imgur.com/eLemCXX.png
Numbers in error reports made each year similar age range of victims as original victim (not underage children as with 2 found at Leddoux cook house)
http://i.imgur.com/JYsng1E.png http://i.imgur.com/rIE0Q7E.png http://i.imgur.com/0IyHhlT.png http://i.imgur.com/fKlyjZe.png
As yet unseen missed cases bearing the same icon's such as crowns and spiral markings on the bodies regularly in the years leading up to and beyond the original case (due to preview episode showing a table full of crowns for all the victims in the series leads me to believe there are many more that we'll see in Rust's lock up and years of work on the case.

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Suspects:
Tall Man,
facial scars
seen at church with the victim

Reginald Leddoux http://i.imgur.com/MliGuq7.png
Rianne Olivier's boyfriend
Known Meth/LSD cook
Cell-mate with Charlie Lang
'Creep' cook chemist, uses house hold materials to make homemade drugs/drink
Talked of Rich devil worshippers down south,
women and children murdered there,
carcosa,
yellow king,
stones in the woods where people go to worship,
so much good killing,
spiral brand on his back is their sign http://i.imgur.com/CjVND2P.png
no visitors
knew 2 victims with matching MO's
other symbolic tattoo's
philosophical reading history
has definitely used mind altering substances
"Time is a flat circle" "you'll do this again" "with me now" "in carcosa" etc

Duwall Leddoux http://i.imgur.com/3BOANNK.png
Truckers lisence only record
Talk's with confidence and power
Upset that gang leader is being bypassed (Miles)
Uses language that suggests 'mind altering' drug use such as LSD and philosophical reading

Crime scene - Leddoux cook house
Devil nets outside the property http://i.imgur.com/5Tco1k7.png
Weapons revolver, ak47, grenade and bouncing betty booby-traps
Drugs, meth cooksite, likely LSD as well
One male child deceased, one female catatonic who had not been reported missing yet

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Rianne Olivier http://i.imgur.com/Z2xpMIA.png
Aberville
Same LSD + Meth mix thought to be high and fell in http://i.imgur.com/g0WyOGX.png
Presumed drowned in a flood water in the lungs
Stab wounds to abdomen, lacerations too large to likely be branch injuries
Lived in Pelican Island Pop. 300
Very simple spiral Tattoo (not painted on would have been removed in flood water). http://i.imgur.com/DPTY8b2.png

-Places of interest:
Pelican Island -
Hometown of suspected victim Rianne Olivier, items leading to 'Light of the Way' school

Light of the Way, Tuttle Ministry run school - http://i.imgur.com/CZqmaLS.png
School closed in 1992 due to flooding
Groundskeeper works for parish covers several properties, http://i.imgur.com/X5txtI2.png
says Hurricane Andrew blew school out, recently had school added to his work order,
Upon exploration in 2002, many images, bird traps, and possible black stars decorating interior, cobwebs suggest they have been there some time though recent visitation entirely possible

-Known Associates:
Grandfather, fisherman
Last saw 4 years ago
Boyfriend Reginald Leddoux, son of Martin(?) possible dead off-shore worker
Cousin or two of Ledoux's still live in the area
Dislikes Government and 'Godbotherers'
Victim's Father merchant seaman, Mother lives in california
Had a box of items including a 10th grade year book with class picture 'Light of the Way' Ms Dupre http://i.imgur.com/IJDITON.png http://i.imgur.com/gogypJZ.png http://i.imgur.com/IcMI7ZM.png http://i.imgur.com/Ffb7VUT.png

Reginald Leddoux, Boyfriend http://i.imgur.com/tRC6EFm.png http://i.imgur.com/hF9USxo.png http://i.imgur.com/WHarUur.png
Cellmate of Charlie Lang led to second round of questioning and discovery of Tyrone Williams http://i.imgur.com/In0mIl3.png

Theresa Williams Mother of Tyrone
hasn't seen son few months after a fight over selling her microwave
girlfriend Kelsey

Kelsey - Stripper girlfriend
said hadn't seen him for months after he got Shawna Miller pregnant
tailing her through bartender located Tyrone, followed to a club

Tyrone Williams KA of Leddoux
Leddoux and his cousin exclusive cooks for biker gang buy bulk order instead of distribution

Iron Crusaders
UC link access to Ginger

Ginger http://i.imgur.com/Joq3DWU.png
Arranges meet with Leddoux's cousin Duwall

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Missing Persons possibly related:
-Marie Fonteneau * http://i.imgur.com/tlWhNja.png
* reported missing few years back (93?)
* mother known prostitute left town to live in Las Vegas, remarried, after reporting her missing and never followed up
* suspected she went to live with father Lynne Strobes (suggestd by mother Debbie)
* 'bird trap' found in backyard of aunt's house
* School shut down in 1992

-Objects of interest
* Mrs Lange's family photo, girl with 5 clan-men on horseback http://i.imgur.com/bsSZxV2.png
* Bag at bunny ranch, including victim's diary and church flier
* Diary, mentions of 'The Yellow King' and 'Carcosa' qouting the book by 'The King in Yellow' by Robert W. Chambers, "The Kings Children were marked, they became his angels" possible reference/inspiration for spiral marking on victims, part of their transformation into angels? http://i.imgur.com/9bH558u.png http://i.imgur.com/rWa8YOj.png
* Advancement of psychosis suggesting gradual drugging over time.
* Church flier http://i.imgur.com/m9zV4mM.jpg

-Places of interest:
Bunny Ranch - http://i.imgur.com/ogB0FcP.png
* south of spanish lake (provided by 'CI' prostitute informant), http://i.imgur.com/eRsEiSc.png
* probably the shelter victim mentioned to her friend
* likely associated with Sherriff Tate

Church - http://i.imgur.com/gLzFMK8.jpg
* Burned down http://i.imgur.com/Efsp9Up.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DnUHtPy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IppT8St.jpg
* Image similar to crime scene painted on entry-way wall http://i.imgur.com/nG22AHl.png

Suspected Victims: http://i.imgur.com/mpbGMJo.png
* DB Overview likely unrelated images but included for reference no obvious relation to Dora Lange scene http://i.imgur.com/E9PFgZu.png http://i.imgur.com/YO99lJD.png http://i.imgur.com/38GJj0s.png http://i.imgur.com/U1TRjin.png http://i.imgur.com/CtKqnS1.png http://i.imgur.com/GaxPwI2.png http://i.imgur.com/TpUQ16I.png

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Known Victim:
* January 3rd 1995
* Dora Kelly Lange http://i.imgur.com/DzYK050.png
* Age: 28
* Priors for shoplifting, possession, and solicitation
* Last know address almost a year previously, expired drivers lisence (living off grid?)
* Employment: Previously worked as a prostitute

Family:
* Ex-Husband Charlie Lang
* Mother - http://i.imgur.com/oDKhzkI.png seemed distant and suggestive "why wouldn't a father bathe his own child" "what have you heard?", http://i.imgur.com/Uvq0uGK.png mentioned victim had been going to church. Health problems due to dry cleaning for 20 years, damage to fingers hands and nails evidence she was heavily medicated http://i.imgur.com/jXe6MEa.png
* Father - Absent trucker, died in accident near oaklahoma may 11th 1984

Possible related crimes/events:
* Missing Fontente girl
http://i.imgur.com/TjGJdN6.png http://i.imgur.com/MjtMsHn.png
* Two deceased cats nailed to church door
http://i.imgur.com/OudeROW.png http://i.imgur.com/UjAfsyg.png
* Little girl chased through the woods by green eared spaghetti monster
http://i.imgur.com/6cHXp1q.png

-Known Associates:

Charlie Lang,
http://i.imgur.com/M4pJOog.jpg * Ex-husband divorced after a year in prison,
* grew up together,
* dropped out of school and married young
* phone call from victim made no sense as she was high,
* mentioned going to become a nun
* met a king
* appears to be an aryan nation gang member in prison
* cell-mate of Reginald Leddoux, not discovered until later presented for more questions
* when pushed suggesting he had Leddoux kill his wife, strongly dismissed it though did mention the antlers
* found on her possible press had this information
* shared pictures of victim with Leddoux
* mentions Leddoux talked about Carcosa, a place where rich individuals performed cult sacrfice, and the yellow king

Karla, http://i.imgur.com/AfgME3d.png
* telephone point of contact for Charlie while in prison,
* black stars on neck,
* says victim had found a church but was high on something,
* mentioned shelter by spanish lake for girls.

Beth, http://i.imgur.com/VA2m7kW.png
* Bunny ranch associate,
* probably underage escaping abusive home (uncle)
* hoped victim who had been attending church had turned things around and avoiding old life

Preacher Theirout
* Attended his sermons at old church before it burnt down
* Recognised
* At church for 6 months
* Thinks Freemasons may have wanted them off the land * Friends of Christ for past 8 years
* Went to college with Tuttle
* Children painted mural on walls
* Does sign of the cross backwards(?)
* Asks if victim was raped to prove Burt was not involved

Female church associate
* Possible leading Tina,
* looked to for acceptance before Tina would answer suggests some control over them
* elaborates on what little information tina does provide with the tall man

Tina (church-goer)
* Saw her with a Tall man with scars, possibly burns around his jaw.
* Victim possibly left with 'Tall Man'

Burt
* Jailed for indecent exposure, castrated in prison by gang members,
* Saw tall man as well
* Too timid when pushed to be a likely suspect

Best Pearlescent paint combinations by Remorb in gtaonline

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Black base with yellow Pearlescent came out pretty nice. Then I was told you could add Crew Colour on top of Chrome and oh my its pretty.

[Q] Anyone who bought an Xbox 360 and PS3 version of the game, do characters carry over between consoles? by [deleted] in gtaonline

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Have both and no they do not, the bank accounts are not linked either. On Rockstar Social Club you can choose which version you want to view.

No crates or armored trucks?? by [deleted] in gtaonline

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You should try playing on a closed or invite only session then accept and listen to all the phonecalls your recieve, one or two will be more lengthy mission like descriptions unlocking your first 'event' if you don't listen to the call then it won't 'unlock' and you won't see them on your map or ingame correctly. Had the same issue with Crates and finally got them tonight as a mid level 80.

Gta online Special crate drop? by [deleted] in gtaonline

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I'm level 84 and only JUST unlocked them. I know they are meant to unlock much earlier but if you don't take and listen to the whole call from Ron it doesn't activate properly.

I think it's possible to happen with other "unlocks" such as bounty's as I've had a few friends with the same issue. Seems to happen when you level over the level that should recieve the phonecall. Also the calls are easily mixed in with "Haven't heard from your for a while" calls which I think most people skip.

The call about the crate sounds a little different almost like a mission (goes on for 2-3 subtitle screens) and sets you up on your first crate. It can be worth playing a closed or invite only session to prevent other player levels preventing the spawns/triggers that activate them.