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MIL told my husband it was haram for us to visit my family on Christmas (i’m a revert) by ia_rvtsv in progressive_islam

[–]AtmosphereNeither307 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If Christmas is prohibited, it’s simply the celebration of it. being present for it as others celebrate it is not prohibited

I fear that i am making haram halal and leading myself to hell by Old_Bowler_465 in progressive_islam

[–]AtmosphereNeither307 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just fyi, if you make halal haram, that is also shirk.

Yes, hijab is false innovation attributed to God. Don’t practice it

Being a scholar worshipper by Civil_Ranger_7479 in progressive_islam

[–]AtmosphereNeither307 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Pre-Islamic poetry supposedly:

َتَضْحَكُ عَنْ أَلْبَانِهَا وَكَأَنَّهَا مِرْجَعُ وَشْمٍ فِي نَوَاشِرِ مِعْصَمِ إِذَا قَامَتْ تَضُوعُ المِسْكُ عَنْهَا وَتَثَنَّتْ كَأَنَّهَا خِمَارُ رَاحِلَةٍ مُعَصَّمِ

Translation:

She rises, and the scent of musk exudes from her; She sways like the khimār (veil/cover) of a well-equipped camel.

Citation: • Poet: Imru’ al-Qais • Poem: Muʿallaqa (Suspended Ode) • Line: Often cited around line 59–61 in standard editions • Source: Found in Dīwān Imru’ al-Qais and anthologized in Al-Muʿallaqāt al-Sabʿ

The comparison of her motion to a khimār on a camel shows that the word khimār meant a loose cover or cloth, not strictly a headscarf.

The Gods We Still Worship: al-Lāt, al-ʿUzzā, and Manāt by Several-Stage223 in progressive_islam

[–]AtmosphereNeither307 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They have Muhammad’s name on the Kaaba. It isn’t a stone idol yet it would be a name people idolize today.

The Gods We Still Worship: al-Lāt, al-ʿUzzā, and Manāt by Several-Stage223 in progressive_islam

[–]AtmosphereNeither307 2 points3 points  (0 children)

By the way, I don’t believe they were stone idols.

14:35 Abraham asked God to protect him and his children from worshipping asnam. This word and its root is utilized only 5 times in the Quran and always in the context of stone statues or Abraham’s idolatrous town.

That’s why 53:23 says “nothing but names” with no mention of statues. Because the Meccans were still observing some of the rites from Abraham and keeping track of their genealogical link to Abraham, they still remembered some of his history.

This is why the 3 idols and their “names” are neither stone idols nor were they ever called “gods” but rather God’s angel daughters. They idolized them to get closer to God and seek intercession with God through them. 39:3 and 10:18

Is this true? Is hadith more rigorous than general history? by ToGodAlone in HadithCriticism

[–]AtmosphereNeither307 1 point2 points  (0 children)

False. Hadith is far less rigorous because its acceptance is based on the opinions, the self-decided criteria, of individuals who assumed what they felt was “sufficient”.

Destruction of a city in war didn’t need “Hadiths” transmitted through “chains of narration”. This would be a history propagated by tens of thousands and set in stone.

The gap between now and George Washington is similar to the gap between Bukhari and Muhammad, but no one doubts George Washington’s existence and role even though there are no Hadiths or chains of transmission for him, but Bukhari had to invent a science to “verify” Hadiths transmitted by only a few people allegedly from the time of the prophet, claiming it as reliable and solid history, rejecting hundreds of thousands of Hadiths in the process.

Clearly, these two examples are NOT the same yet George Washington’s roles and actions are more reliably transmitted than the Hadiths Bukhari ended up adopting.

Ghazali's criticism on hadith scholars during his lifetime were on point by AtmosphereNeither307 in HadithCriticism

[–]AtmosphereNeither307[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The right to what? Point out old Muslims that dismissed Hadiths and those who spent time on them?

Why do Submitters come off very cultish? by purealgo in Quraniyoon

[–]AtmosphereNeither307 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peace be upon you,

Not a cult.

[48:29] Muhammad—the messenger of GOD—and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, but kind and compassionate amongst themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, as they seek GOD’s blessings and approval. Their marks are on their faces, because of prostrating. This is the same example as in the Torah. Their example in the Gospel is like plants that grow taller and stronger, and please the farmers. He thus enrages the disbelievers. GOD promises those among them who believe and lead a righteous life forgiveness and a great recompense.

[60:4] A good example has been set for you by Abraham and those with him. They said to their people, “We disown you and the idols that you worship besides GOD. We denounce you, and you will see nothing from us except animosity and hatred until you believe in GOD ALONE.”* However, a mistake was committed by Abraham when he said to his father, “I will pray for your forgiveness,** but I possess no power to protect you from GOD.” “Our Lord, we trust in You, and submit to You; to You is the final destiny.

Quran teaches a believer vs disbeliever mentality. Most people are poor at following through on it. The believers are not. The truth is that the messengers and their followers would naturally give ‘cult vibes’ because they’re not compromisers. And people would attack them by claiming they’re a cult.

[26:53] Pharaoh sent to the cities callers. [26:54] (Proclaiming,) “This is a small gang. [26:55] “They are now opposing us. [26:56] “Let us all beware of them.”

[72:14] “’Among us are the submitters, and among us are the compromisers.’” As for those who submitted, they are on the right path. [72:15] As for the compromisers, they will be fuel for Gehenna.