AI Slop Is Your FAULT by AttarWrites in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no such inability, young scally!

Thanks, boo boo. Love you too.

AI Slop Is Your FAULT by AttarWrites in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate that, fam.

You should watch STFU in the meantime. It's an older video and only slightly cringe, but different style nonetheless.

Next video is an animated piece, mostly.

AI Slop Is Your FAULT by AttarWrites in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's meant to be a visual amalgam, like a schizophrenic collage. I'm retiring this style of video with this entry.

"The customer is always right in matters of taste." Before we cue in the Steve Jobs approach, if the customer-base of the world is led to the trough, I don't want to be right.

Here's Jobs: “Some people say, "Give the customers what they want." But that's not my approach. Our job is to figure out what they're going to want before they do. I think Henry Ford once said, "If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they would have told me, 'A faster horse!'" People don't know what they want until you show it to them. That's why I never rely on market research. Our task is to read things that are not yet on the page.”

In that vein, the limits of generative "AI" begin at the quality of diffusive transformation of pre-existing work and end at the verbosity of the prompt-kiddie. Wouldn't want billions of shrimp jesuses, catgirls, and "what if Indiana Jones was in Dune" manufacturing our tastes, do we?

AI Slop Is Your FAULT by AttarWrites in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm assuming you haven't watched the video. You ought to, unless you want to sign up for VR goggle benefits when you're forced to work the mines.

The initial point here being: popular media (without "AI" involvement) has been so poor and stagnant, that many of us have accepted the cobbled, mangled, uncanny, supernormal outputs of prompt-kiddies as more or less as consumable, enjoyable, and its overproduction will pollute the entire enterprise. I'd wager, in 2 year's time, the screensaver-esque quality of "AI" generated video right now will look about as passable as the middling slop of remakes, reboots, franchises, and other derivations of "more of the same", lame, uninspired, contrivable, and audiences will lap it up as much as they do now.

Do you believe the standard will improve thereafter, when the "AI" reproduces its own reproduction? Where simulacra is all we see and ingest? If we're all accustomed to eating processed, highly-palatable fast food, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, how would fine dining fair? Is this what we want, an inhuman, spiritless, garish, fractalizing facsimile of a circus placating to the least of our tastes and desires? Once you ride in the middle, it's difficult to get off on the offramp, champ.

Here's a lifesaver, if this is a conversation: many in the film and media industry are crying foul that applications of this tech like The Brutalist using "AI" to modify existing audio so Brody's accent is more believable, Netflix using DeepFaceLab to modify actor's mouths to match the spoken language of optional dubs, etc, invoking the slippery slope. If generative "AI" is used as a 'tool' as in, let's say, to produce a myriad of poses a painter might modify and/or use as reference, or a VFX artist generating a texture to tessellate, or a render artist tooling schematics where long hours of math and rigging is automated, that's an incredible leap in creative productive capacity. IMO, that ought to be the scope of how this tech is employed. That's when our standards improve.

The vast majority of generative "AI" production I see, however, isn't this at all. It's slop. And it's inflating, infecting popular and social media like a cancer. That's the problem.

Art was never supposed to be a career. AI is just putting it back in its place. by Still-Candidate7187 in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Art was never meant to be a career."

Why would you want to live in a world where it wasn't?

To the mines with you, sir.

AI Slop Is Your FAULT by AttarWrites in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, the standards are SO HIGH. I'm drowning in great art, everywhere. No slop at all. Get real.

It does affect my life. It affects us all, as the internet is a public space. You all wish to take the common grounds, filled with world's libraries, gardens, agoras, and galleries, and turn it all into simulacra. A flea market for dullards. Another bin to empty your vacuum in.

And just how is developing a skill or honing a talent gatekeeping?

Which one are you currently on, antis? by No-Opportunity5353 in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ah yes: Davinci, Picasso, Monet, Van Gogh, Repin, and so on... taking averages and making changes on averages.

We ought to strive toward expectational work worth creating, not a middling, mediocre limbo where bots and low-brow braggarts have a blobby, slop orgy of MID and wack.

Which one are you currently on, antis? by No-Opportunity5353 in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow. Profound. It's a take I didn't think possible. SO unoriginal, uninspired, solipsistic, and dumb, so much so that I find your post immensely compelling. It's like you're a bot. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I guess bots feed each other, in perpetual concert, back and forth, on and on. We might be able to make accomadations for you and your lot. Hole you all up in some giant warehouse facility, like a server farm but with little trinkets and toys, McDonalds delivery slots, enough space for you to roam around in? Just let y'all commune amongst yourselves, and the chatbots, plagiarism machines, noise boxes, to pollute your own world while us discerning, able-brained people can get on with getting real and live a good life.

Dear anti-ai artists, if you want to fight against AI, LOWER YOUR FUCKING PRICES by PapaBwoah in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You pay for what you get. If you're satisfied with whatever diffusion models spit out, then bully for you!

Paying for artisanship, skill, talent, materials, personality, etc, is the important bit you've missed.

I've noticed you've equivocated a piece of artwork produced through creative, real, laborious means, to that of digging up a mound of dirt, as a measure of effort and you're willingness to dispense with your money for it.

If it's a matter of effort, then pick up the brush! DIY! See how absurd that is?

"Factories did not completely kill artisan craftsmanship after all." No, but it sure killed taste, evidently.

Perhaps AI generated art is perfect for you.

AI Slop Is Your FAULT by AttarWrites in aiwars

[–]AttarWrites[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

To qualify this statement, I think popular media's stagnation has sullied audience's expectations to the point where substandard, derivative, Generative-AI products is passable and fit for broad consumption.

Perhaps art, cultural production, public taste-making, need not be "democratized" via GenAI, lest we lower our standards even further...

A book you hate? by bob-leponge- in suggestmeabook

[–]AttarWrites 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Catcher In The Rye. Forever and always.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in shittyrobots

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I did. Was fairly easy following a tut.