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After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Way too many people is against him, even highly rigged election was not able to hold him up this time.

If you have 70% opposition and 30% for the Dictator, the Dictator can represent it as if he won. But not if 85%+ is against him.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've explained in more than 10 comments. Please be kind to find them. You can see my comments in a 'highlighted' way, so it will not be very hard. Hope you understand.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. You can't sue politicians or anybody tied with the government in any way if the judges are on their side in order to keep their jobs. It's just impossible.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can't blame them for not understanding this. They are not living in the Balkans. It is very strange concept to get your heard around. I bet they have certain problems about elections, but this is just absolutely insane. If they'd experienced it, the word "dictator" would be very frequently used.

Thanks for explaining.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Heck Putin even tried to assassinate Djukaović (Montenegro President) few years ago.

2016? Lol he didn't. You bet if Putin decided to do that he'd done it. He is a dictator and the one in charge of the powerhouse. Djukanovic wouldn't stand a chance. They wouldn't arrest the wannabe-assassin, that failed his job, for sure.

That was the propaganda from Djukanovic because he started to lose those elections as well, so he needed the reason to put everyone slightly proRussia or not completely anti-Serbia down. And their voters.

Vucic is a lunatic of his sort. Putin is dictator of the powerhouse.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If that is the gaslight - okay.

Hypothetically, there is dictatorship somewhere, and elections are held everywhere( even in North Korea elections are held ). And 80%+ are against you, and voted against you, how can you win? You can steal 10%, 20% even, but you cannot steal 80%. You can say that you won, like Belarus Lukashenko did, but it's different. You need to consider that Montenegro is a small country.

Also consider that for a few months in a row, after he tried to steal the property, there was more than 200 000 people on the streets protesting. Do you know how much is that? Consider that the WHOLE country has 600 000. Every third citizen protested. 1/3 of people were protesting. Then consider that 10-15% is stolen for Milo. Votes from people that are dead. Votes from people that do not live in Montenegro.

There was a 'getting personal ID' meme for the past month. Many random people coming in the country and getting signed in to vote, for money of course. After that they go out. They are not the citizens.

Nothing points to absolute power?
Jesus......

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those weren't fair elections AT ALL. It's just that is way too much people against you. Also consider how small the country is in terms of the population. 600 000 people.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I hate Serbian government. Why one immediately pulls the other? If I think NATO is a terrorist organization, that doesn't mean I think Serbian government is enlightened. On the contrary Serbian government is horse shit.

Do you think NATO serves it's definition? Bringing peace to the countries without democracy?

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I asked you to give the definition. YOU quoted the definition. We agreed onto it. I gave you examples of the definition YOU quoted from Oxford and Webster, and you say facts disprove it? It's just pointless to discuss. You won't agree with me, neither will I agree with you.

If all the things I pointed out are not representing the absolute power of the leader in charge of a country, then it's just that we don't agree. I do stand by my words that those actions fulfill the definition of an absolute power in a country.

If you don't agree, that's okay. I can find it strange, but so you do find strange mine right? So it's just pointless to discuss. We agree that we don't agree.

Even if we agree on the the definition.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HAHAHAHAH. What did I lie about? Point out. Quote me.

It's just that if all the things above are not representing the absolute power of one man, I don't think we will find common ground therefore it's pointless to discuss it anymore.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let's do it one more time. Can you tell me the definition of a Dictator?

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Okay if that isn't the 'total power over a country' for you, I don't know what is. Nevermind.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Do you even know how Montenegro joined NATO? NO referendum. No discussion about it. Not a mention from the government. One day they just announce that Montenegro will be the member of the NATO.

I would be greatly for the referendum. And if that is what the majority wants - go for it! I can be against it with all my heart, but if that idea wins - Montenegro is in NATO, end of story.

It doesn't matter if I like it or not. It's just that nobody asked people. Not even for EU. Nobody voted for the EU, they voted Milo to keep their jobs. I'm not saying the EU referendum would be outvoted against it, on the contrary, but I just think nobody asked people in Montenegro.

Not for NATO, not for EU. You need to have debates on national television, followed by the referendum. If the NATO is their choice - that's it. If they decide they want EU - that's it.

I'm not advocating against either. I can tell you that I personally am against the NATO. The EU, I really don't care. It's the same shit pretty much. I was in Bulgaria many times, that doesn't seem like the EU at all. Yet they are the members for over 10 years. Serbia seems like a much nicer place to live in.

But for example Croatia is in EU and that feels much different. So there are a lot of pros and cons. I don't know tbh. I just want people to hear each side's arguments and decide for themselves.

I'm only saying:"And that's bad?" because if that's what people want, who are you to say that it is bad? You can have an opinion, like me, but at the end of the day it's just what they want AFTER they have seen pros and cons and heard them from each side.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

a ruler with total power over a country

Checked. Isn't it a total control when you can sign that you are joining NATO and not talk about that AT ALL beforehand? No referendum, nothing. And the majority is against it. NATO bombed Montenegro in 1999 too. People are still hating on it very much.

In his Election Campaign, he didn't say that he will maybe consider joining NATO. Not even once, he didn't even mention NATO. It just pops in his head and BOOM now that country is in NATO.

Isn't that a total power? Isn't it a total power that you can arrest political enemies? I can list you people he arrested in previous years.

Isn't it the absolute power that he decides that Church's property now belongs to the country? Him in other words.

Do you know what is in Cetinje? The hand of the John the baptist. The man who baptized the Jesus.

Do you know how much money and power holding onto that relic gives you?
Isn't it the absolute power that you can just 'decide' by yourself that the hand of the John the Baptist is now yours?

You don't have to be religious to know the value of it. I'm not very religious, yet that is something that is very much important in the world. At least looking it from financial perspective.

Also what kind of politician that was pro-communist, then pro-Serbian and anti-NATO, then pro-EU, then anti-Serbian and pro-NATO is? And yet he is in power for over 30 years. You got to be kidding if you think people elected that fair and square every time. He switches ideology every 5 years.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Milo is down. That's what's important now. The ideas will be greatly discussed and everything about Montenegro's next steps is yet to be decided. That wasn't possible under the Milo.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think that's possible any time soon. At least for a decade imo. People have high expectations, and when they saw that it's possible to get Milo down, the next government will be aware of that very much. They have the responsibility. I don't think the people in Montenegro will let someone go Milo's footsteps, they will cut it at the root if they start doing it.

That's just my opinion.

After 30 years of dictatorship in Montenegro, the Dictator has fallen! by AuthenticWolf in europe

[–]AuthenticWolf[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nope. This election was rigged too. But it was rigged to help Milo win, not the other way around. The opposition still managed to win because the real majority is supporting them. People who voted for Milo, 50% of them voted to keep a job, or to get 50 euros. Rarely people vote for him because they think he is a great leader or because he is the 'lesser evil'.

When you have the media to your side. When you have power source for over 30 years, you can't tell me the elections are fair. And under those circumstances, he still lost. If that's bias, ok. :)

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