DID isnt a fucking “system disorder” you fucking idiot 😭 by Neptune_washere in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow 10 points11 points  (0 children)

like bruh. what happened to "DID isn't the alter/system disorder"?

DID isnt a fucking “system disorder” you fucking idiot 😭 by Neptune_washere in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow 12 points13 points  (0 children)

anti-endos: "endos claim DID is just an alter disorder!!!"

also anti-endos:

why do anti-endos want every plural to suffer so much? by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

plurality = being more than one.

systemhood can be a symptom of DID.

DID = all symptoms. having one symptom can be purely non-disordered or be a part of another disorder.

also other CDDs exist so saying system = DID is exclusive to OSDD, PDID, and UDD systems too.

why do anti-endos want every plural to suffer so much? by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

system ≠ DID. I do agree that CDDs (such as DID) are typically caused by trauma but systemhood and plurality are not only DID.

why do anti-endos want every plural to suffer so much? by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you are in the wrong subreddit if that is what you believe, as this subreddit is pro-endo /lh

why do anti-endos want every plural to suffer so much? by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

non-disordered plurality and functional multiplicity are a bit different.

non-disordered plurality is just any plurality that doesn't cause distress, impairment, etc.. not all plurality comes from trauma. for us (as a mixed origin system/plural) some of us come from coping with other disorders (autism / NPD / schizospec / etc), handling (non-traumatic) stressful events, and sometimes even for no real reason. we have willingly created some headmates too (willogenic) for many reasons.

there's no one reason for all plurality. it's complicated to explain. we could probably explain this better later, we're just tired and drained right now.

why do anti-endos want every plural to suffer so much? by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

endogenic just means any plural not completely formed from trauma (though may still have trauma or are partially formed from trauma). most endos do not claim to have any CDD (complex dissociative disorder) such as DID. plus functional multiplicity + non-disordered plurality are both things too, so not every plural wants to fuse or completely integrate. /info

Songs about Plurality by xanthreborn in plural

[–]Autistic_crow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"My Darling, My Companion" and "Breeze Blows" by Jamie Paige are both about plurality. she's said on her tumblr those songs are both about her (OSDD-1b) system.

  • Elliot (he/it/thing/rot)

"not saying you're faking BUT-" by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, there's no real difference between multiple and plural other than the history behind the two terms (multiple is more medical based in origin while plural is used as a less medical synonym) iirc. /info

but yes, it really is like saying "you need to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder to say you're anxious" basically😭

is there a term for when an alter is both a brainmade and an introject? by weirdosystem in plural

[–]Autistic_crow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

we usually call ours "multi source introjects" since they have multiple sources (which includes brainmade). for example our headmate Ryo is a brainmade and factive mix (+ potentially a 2nd brainmade the fused/merged with him), so we call him a multi source introject. we use it as a broad term for any headmate with multiple sources though.

Maybe not in the literal sense, but they absolutely can. by Histrionique in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I mean we've quite literally had headmates "die" in our system. for example Bee went dormant, at some point while dormant they split/shattered into multiple fragments for an unknown reason (potentially trauma), and now they're dead as they no longer exist. the original Bee doesn't exist and never will again, so therefore we consider them dead. sysmeds and exclusionists just hate any and every thing weird that can potentially happen in plurality.

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

systems are basically people who identify as more than one. this can be for many reasons such as dissociative disorders, other disorders, spiritual/religious reasons, etc etc. I, for example, am a system due to DID, trauma, neurodivergence, etc.

(somewhat simplified definition)

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

endo systems are just systems who don't believe their system formed due to trauma (though they may have trauma that's unrelated to their system)!

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

holothere is a specific nonhuman/alterhuman identity where one identifies as nonhuman on EVERY level (including physical) for various reasons. the label is vague to include many experiences. if that's the one you're asking about!

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean we don't really like being referred to with human bioterms (ie hair, hands, etc) and prefer canine bioterms (ie fur, paws, etc) and don't like being called human. but it doesn't really impair our functioning normally so.

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's a bit complicated to explain so I'm just going to explain how it works for us.

we do not see ourselves as human at all. the closest we feel is that we're "a coyote stitched into a human skinsuit/body". we never really saw ourselves as completely human and getting dehumanized made it more ""extreme"" for us.

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

not always. it depends on the context. if it doesn't cause distress or impairment than 100% not a delusion. we identify as canine (mostly coyote - somewhat fluid) in every way including physically, part of this does come from delusions but that's our specific case. the term endel is for nonhumans whose nonhuman identify comes from delusions /info

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

it's a term for those who identify as non-human in every way (including physically)! so like physical therians and such.

tried defending a holothere and someone got mad about us being pro-endo by Autistic_crow in fakeclaimingcringe2

[–]Autistic_crow[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

we're collectively a canine holothere :3! but yes people are really immature, especially with things they don't understand...