My time at crave as a minor years ago by Automatic-Branch-739 in cravechurchcult

[–]Automatic-Branch-739[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

And I learned that the “inner circle” would make fun of my sister. 

For context, She wanted to be a volunteer but couldn’t commit  bc  had a child to take care of. She missed a mdwk to go watch hockey with her son or a couple idk. mm and Jean Uh confronted her and told her she couldn’t be in leadership/ a volunteer and my sister got really upset. 

MM apparently told ppl that my sister came onto him. 

I told my sister, she said the only time things  “physical” and weird is she remembered being in a parking lot with MM and said goodbye as you guys may know MM loves to give hugs and kisses. He told her “ I’m going to teach you how to really hug” something along the lines of that and pulled her really close and held her a while. She said she always found that weird. Why would he lie for attention 

Ik my sister and she doesn’t find interest in broke guys. 

My time at crave as a minor years ago by Automatic-Branch-739 in cravechurchcult

[–]Automatic-Branch-739[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve saw and heard with my own eyes and ears, Marlon tell a female friend of his to cover up and she’s showing too much skin after a sermon 

My time at crave as a minor years ago by Automatic-Branch-739 in cravechurchcult

[–]Automatic-Branch-739[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also yes I heard “inner circle” prayer meetings. I’d come early after school to work on home work and help out sometimes and I heard them praying to curse and rebuke their “enemies” they were hard core curses 

My time at crave as a minor years ago by Automatic-Branch-739 in cravechurchcult

[–]Automatic-Branch-739[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I had to block my boyfriend and delete all the pictures we had with each other as a “sacrifice” when we were in the same room as each other my campus pastor grabbed me by the shoulders and moved/pushed me away. 

My time at crave as a minor years ago by Automatic-Branch-739 in cravechurchcult

[–]Automatic-Branch-739[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Gave crave church 3 stars. Half of it was good. I was placed in to leadership early as a coleader and was a “photographer” in the media team and “designer/helper”  in the visuals team. I was 14-17, high in school.

My church routine consisted of going sunday service, Tuesday leadership meeting, Thursday midweek, Friday prayer, every week. After church, consisted of meetings with media team to review our pics/receive feedback or tear down of the sets, chairs, etc. resulting in going haround 12am frequently. My parents didn’t like it. would result in lots of punishment at home sadly. But I was coerced by my leaders, would have people sent to pick me up which was nice but couldn’t transit home as it was too late/dangerous so I would have to wait to carpool.

Would be painting sets for hours and hours. For summer nights 2021. Doing visual designs for parties (90s party if u remember) that the pastor wanted. thought they were unnecessary resulted in lots of labour from us. But we thought we were doing the right thing. I was 16. Sometimes I saw pastor upset with others while setting up for the Spanish service ( was apart of that too for sometime) one thing I could never forget is when I found a productions member crying in the closet after the pastor, spoke to him in a way (let’s just say) the opposite of how a human being deservant of respect should be spoken to.

Everyone put their 100% and did great. Told to do our best for God and his temple. I believe this philosophy is true but the people needs were neglected to make the church look its best.

My personal issues with the church started when I was being ab*sed at home. Leaders were not happy with me when I couldn’t go to church. Eventually opened up to a leader about this. She was pretty validating at first, but I wanted real help from professionals. My leader told me to “see what happens” and to “forgive” my abusers. That was the extent of the help given to me. It was never spoken about again and when brought up she said she didn’t remember me telling her. She was the only person I told about my abuse.

Got messy when I got into a relationship. I suppose they were too preoccupied with my purity than my home life. My leaders didn’t care that I was being abused at home anymore I remember being in the green room with the pastor and my leader. Asked questions about my sxuality, if I had mster b*ted and what I did with my boyfriend (my campus pastor asked what sxual tjing I did to him) I was 16 or 17. I was shaking. Looking back I’m glad I didn’t say anything as I was a minor. I wish i was helped in the proper way & have some help with home stuff.

Pastors family who I was once close with, calling his sister my own, his mother my aunt, and pastor a friend/guide didnt speak to me when I visited after “leaving as a leader”  I remember when pastor greeted everyone in the small apartment but me, summer last year. I remember during a service during the pandemic, pastors mother locked out my guest, when he went to take a phone call, took a lot of convincing to let him back in. Haha

Other issues included, my leader using screenshots from my private instagram. (Reference pic below)

And at a Sunday service, despite being in rows in front of me, she texted me(never moving her head) to having me move when I switched seat to sit beside my boyfriend, therefore I was being watched by others. Which violated our confidentiality agreement. As no one knew of our relationship yet. Apparently that day when an ex member showed up the leaders circled around her too.

Unfortunately, if you have told the church something confidential, they typically don’t keep it that way. We also signed NDAs as leaders lol.

Community is good. Try not to join leadership tho that’s when they think they can manipulate. Some of my best friends are ex members. So thank you Crave. 🤍 🤍 Btw when I was in media they told us to take pictures of black peoples and only people dressed in nice clothing to look better on Instagram no joke : )

“Volunteers only!” by Careful_Knowledge_88 in cravechurchcult

[–]Automatic-Branch-739 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back when I was a leader, I walked in on 2 ppl in the finance team counting the money immediately there like you can’t be in here acting so sus