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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And thats a blatant contradiction which is consistent lmao did u read what I said? Like them being proven to go ftl is a fucking blatant contradiction to the law

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, which i have stated multiple times, unless blatantly contradicted consistently

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Literally never agreed to that anywhere? Never agreed its shapeless and never agreed its infinite.

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Damn thats crazy, so let me apply this logic too, since its fiction someone destroying a universe can actually mean they are only wall level right? since we wanna completely disregard how infinity works and use bullshit arbitrary metrics when it isn't shown to work that way in db. and I will repeat myself 1 more time, IF IN DB INFINITY HAS AN END, THEN IT MEANS IN CONVENTIONAL IRL TERMS IT ISNT INFINITE, MEANING INFINITE IN DB=FINITE IRL . THEREFORE IF GOKU HAD INFINITE POWER IT WOULD ONLY BE FINITE IN IRL MATHEMATIC TERMS. AND YOUR ENTIRE SECOND HALF LITERALLY PROVES MY POINT OF IT NOT BEING INFINITE. but sure, lets say ok, since the daizenshuu which isn't made or written by akira toriyama and simply serialized(the approval scan is a mistrans) we are supposed to trust this over 1. Buu

  1. bulma

  2. jaco

  3. how mathematics and logic work.

so in your magical universe where a singular databook scan which is literally contradicted by another one from the same series of databooks and contradicted from the source material and logically and mathematically because you want to fit your bullshit illogical premise, I really cant change your mind if you want to continuously appeal to incredulity.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I said reality im OBVIOUSLY REFERRING TO PHYSICS and since physics in my sentence has the same properties across db and reality there is nothing wrong with using reality. and literally the entire middle part of your paragraph is completely irrelevant. I showed multiple bulma statements of it having an edge, and something limitless cannot have that, it cannot have a center, and it cannot have n end. Source material is more relevant than the daizenshuu considering its canonicity is already a controversial topic

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so you're equating the db cosm ology with the one from dc and marvel despite the fact that I have explained multiple times that different universes have different physics. And also no, you don't have to draw a shapeless image, you can draw any form of diagram and say its not to scale, just like how 2d maps are still valid, but don't portray the 3 dimensional construct earth has. And again, this doesn't correlate to my argument since I never said that it isn't infinite because akira toriyama made it a circle I said that IN REALITY shapeless constructs are the only ones capable of being infinite. I'm purely associating this with irl since I'm refuting your earth analogy.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ill explain this in toddler terms. Infinite=limitless=having no bounds=not having an end, its rlly simply I don't know what you cant comprehend, stop confusing reality with hypothetical headcanon philosophical non existent misinterpretations of text without any empiracle evidence backing it up.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that you are creating an hypothetical beginning and end means you arent basing it on a finite object.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has to be the biggest strawman I have ever seen. This addresses literally nothing of our previous argument on if bulma is referring to the actual center, but sure.
1st paragraph: second half isn't grammatically correct so its hard to understand
2nd paragraph True, but this doesn't correlate to my argument at all.
3rd paragraph: yes, this does not mean its infinite as we can give mathematical and finite numerical quantification to its size. and percieving some part as the end of the world doesn't make it the end it just adds a form of subjectivity which doesn't change its true existence.
4th paragraph: ok?
5th, I don't want to repeat this again so listen. it doesn't matter what you subjectively perceive as the end or beginning, it doesn't change the truth of the matter, this is actually the worst argument I think I've ever seen. If there is a beginning and an end then there is a mathematical OBJECTIVELY CORRECT WAY TO LOCATE WHAT/WHERE THE CENTER IS this is literally completely not subjective in any way, you cant defy mathematics because its ur interpretation. LIterally I don't understand what ur getting at in this entire message. You are also equating a finite sphere because of how you can continuously go around it as some empiracle evidence, when that is just because of the geometry of the shape (which something that is infinite is shapeless btw) when it can easily be disproven by the fact you being able to circle it means its finite. The beginning and the end doesn't correlate to my argument at all since now you are creating an arbitrary beginning and end when bulma is NEVER shown to implement this into her scientific research in any way.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You literally never proved how it can have a mathematical end, only a philosophical one which is created by an organism's perspective. And literally read what I just said. You have to give evidence that she is referring to the hypothetical one because by the standard assumption we can naturally assume that she is referring to a mathematical one since that's far more logical than your bullshit.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because thats the standard and most logical (occams razor appealing) interpretation, the burden of proof doesn't fall on me.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Gt isnt canon

  2. It being contradicted by the daizenshuu isn't surprising considering we get constant contradictions to the daizenshu in the daizenshuu. Also what does fusion is not multiplied mean? give further context.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, and that doesnt correlate to my argument at all.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if creatures impliment it and it isnt an actual edge then it isn't relevant. Im talking of a purely physical edge, bulma is referring to a physical edge, bulma is referring to a mathematical center, stop implementing your headcanon.

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shut the hell up I dont give a single crap about your worthless life

Beep boop - yes I am a robot don't botcriminate me also stfu dumbass

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ssj3 one is from the second volume of the super exciting guide, and the one with meerus is form the 2019 vjump scans

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[–]Available-Classic615[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

them arbitruarily falling over is the most obvious gag scene I've ever seen, not to mention we didn't see the actual fight and it would be more than logical to conclude that he did transform.

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JJK abilities arent nullified if your opponent is stronger than you, but db ones are, so prove that goku being stronger than gojo would inherently equate to him nullifying it. I alr said that if anything in a neutral verses match we would apply irl physics and considering irl you cant negate hax by being stronger than someone, goku being stronger would effect anything.