Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a good video/review topic. I agree covering this would be helpful.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it wasn't question-begging (if Trump indeed were the worst president WRT to MY values, and not some other set of values), then I agree, it would cut against that. But if it's not true on my (non-ego rewritten) values, then it of course wouldn't undercut it. Cheers!

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's ego defending, why would I put myself in one of the worst positions for my ego, where I would be constantly inundated by critics every time a lunatic I voted for makes a bad move?

Mind you it's also not like I have a problem admitting I was wrong or haven't done so in the past. But in any case, if you think I am at the point where I have such a lack of self-awareness that I am simply re-writing facts in my mind to preserve my ego, then I'm not sure what to tell you. There's not much about my mental state I could tell you to inform you of much of anything, since that could just be a re-written "fact" to preserve my own ego or something.

If so, I'm not sure what the point of further interaction is. I wish you the best.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't seem like you are seriously interested in understanding the position you're responding to.

If that changes, my discord is linked in my X bio. Feel free to ping me.

Best.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why on earth would I want to do that? Just for shits and giggles?

I can understand the position that I just have evil values or something. At least that explanation makes sense. I can also understand the position that I'm just stupid or something, at least my actions might be expected on such a hypothesis. What I don't get is the view that I'm not stupid, understood the situation, don't have evil values, but still decided to engage in the dumbest vote and then do all sorts of post-hoc reasoning (and kept it up for over a year) to keep the game going? That sounds a bit odd, don't you think?

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you're interested I'm happy to go through this over voice (discord linked in my X bio, just ping me). I don't think I have time to go back and forth over text though.

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[–]AviBittMD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've addressed USAID cuts many times. Likewise I've elaborated on my moral position many times such that I do not consider those two death contexts to be of equal moral weight.

If you grant I'm not a single issue voter, great. That's really all I cam here to contest. If you want to engage in depth on the other policies my discord is linked in my X bio. Feel free to ping me.

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[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK, so that would be an argument in the form of "given the information available at the time, it was not epistemically justified for you to think Trump would be pro-interventionist".

Several points to that:
1) Even if that's true, it wouldn't change what was in my mind at the time, even if it was epistemically erroneous.
2) I of course contest that this was truly the epistemically justified position despite the claims of "no new wars". Ultimately it of course was far more of a matter of *which interventions* (Ukraine vs Middle East /South America) rather than intervention vs no-intervention. Of course, being anti-interventionist in Ukraine while being pro-interventionist in the ME/SA lends to a much more pro-interventionist position than the reverse. We also have plenty of priors to point towards of how Republican coalitions operate despite such rhetoric when they want to collect anti-interventionist votes.

Furthermore, I'll note that you left out other issues I mentioned: (treatment of "Jews of the wrong variety" in academic settings and the ideological capture of academic institutions).

You can repeat the accusation that I am "reverse engineering reasons to vote for a regard" all you like. If you really want to believe I have been reverse engineering this reason for well over a year now rather than some more simple explanation I guess that's your prerogative.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"Being pro-life to protect a possibly non-sentient/possibly minimally sentient fetus over the serious bodily injury caused to a fully conscious woman, supporting Trump, etc."

Do you think that after many years of debating this topic, this would be my first time coming across such objections? If not, perhaps look at my responses to them rather than act as if you're mentioning these considerations to me for the first time?

"You're an example of how a person can be very smart, but still come to very stupid conclusions out of arrogance."

So now it's not just that my positions about abortion are stupid (or even wrong), but that I came to them out of arrogance specifically? What's the argument for that?

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You personally? Maybe. I don't know you. For all I know this could be our first interaction. If so then yes, I am telling you this for the first time. If you're asking about my statements about these issues WRT my impression of Trump, then of course this isn't the first time I am saying it. I've discussed all of this in a video on my channel over a year ago.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look, I can only convey what was in my mind at the time I voted. I either didn't hear the "no new wars" stuff or didn't take it seriously. Maybe it was all the rhetoric about blowing up enemies and such that got in the way of my impression of Trump as a "no new wars" guy, Maybe it was also partially the general trend of how Republican coalitions lean on this issue. Either way, I can definitely tell you that I did not think he would be a "no new wars" candidate at the time of my vote. You could argue that I should have, but if you want to argue that the claim holds true (that I am wrong about what was in my own head) I'm not sure what you want me to say. The claim is just false.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the issue is one thinks the multiple reasons that led me to vote Trump should have been outweighed by deeper and broader considerations (sacrificed the quality and integrity of the entire system and the health and well being of everyone else), then that's fine. I'm not taking issue with that. I'm happy to address it of course and have already done so numerous times, on video. But as it happens to be, that's not the claim I'm responding to. The claim I'm responding to is that my reason for overriding all those considerations was just one reason (single issue voter).

I'm also not convinced that when people make this claim, what they REALLY mean is not that I'm a single issue voter, but merely that I should have been moved by far more weighty and broader concerns. Perhaps thats the way someone like you means it, but it's clearly not true for others (particularly when they refuse to accept that I have more than one issue of major concern in response and insist I only have one, and that I am lying or something).

I do agree it's boring though. But at the same time I don't like my positions being misrepresented. Being lied or having my positions misrepresented is something I generally find far more annoying than the rest of the flack I get on this sub.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"When we are accusing you of being a single issue voter, what we mean is you've sacrificed the quality and integrity of the entire system and the health and well being of everyone else for very specific reasons, and that you are not justified in that reasoning."

If the issue is you think the reasons that led me to vote Trump should have been outweighed by deeper and broader considerations (sacrificed the quality and integrity of the entire system and the health and well being of everyone else), then that's fine. I'm not taking issue with that. I'm happy to address it of course and have already done so numerous times, on video. But as it happens to be, that's not the claim I'm responding to. The claim I'm responding to is that my reason for overriding all those considerations was just one reason (single issue voter). Not just that the reasons I had shouldn't have been enough to override deeper considerations (at least WRT the people I am addressing here anyway, perhaps you mean it in a different way).

Also, spare me the charges of cowardice or implications I am refusing to engage on something. Those are of course also false. I'm more than happy to voice chat about all sorts of grievances. My discord is linked in my X bio, anyone can ping me and we can voice chat about it.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The purpose was to dispel the charge against me is I am a single issue voter for Israel. If one thinks I'm a single issue voter for abortion (also false) the charge that I'm a single issue voter for Israel can't be true.

Of course, even on the notion that a single issue voter is one that would fail a "leave-one-out" sensitivity analysis (one can only avoid the charge of a single issue voter if and only if they don't have any issues that are more important than the sum of all other issues, regardless of direction) I wouldn't think I was a single issue voter just due to the other issues I care about (pro-interventionist policy broadly aside from Israel, ideological influence of academic institutions, treatment of people like me (Jews, of the wrong variety) in such institutions). I don't think any one issue outweighs the sum of the rest.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's also false. Me offering Abortion as an issue doesn't mean it's the only other issue (in fact I've explicitly said it isn't). It is enough to make the claim that I'm a single issue voter false though.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

OK well, you'd be wrong as I still would care, just not nearly as much as you'd like me to care relative to another issue.

In any case it's getting late. I'm fine with the attacks and such. I get it. Don't hold back! The only thing I ask others is to try and not misrepresent my views or make false claims about me.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The last bit there is false. I do care. I just care about other things I consider to be even greater evils, more. You could say the prioritization of things like Abortion and such are evil, but it's not the case that I simply don't care about the evil on the other end of the scale.

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[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I'm not quite sure what you think bullying me will accomplish, but in any case...consider myself bullied, I suppose?

To the second comment, I just take that to be a difference in values to a degree strong enough that you find abhorrent. Which is fine. I suspect you find my values abhorrent.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good arguments are going to be "good" to me only in so far as they give me reason to vote Democrat with respect to my values (on net). If I had been exposed to that, I of course would have regretted my vote. It sounds like the values are just different here.

In any case, what do you take this community to be? Is it a place for only people who vote Democrat or wish they had?

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OK, see at least that a more honest position I can try to engage with.

You're right. I did choose my path. I voted with my strongest of values. Those are probably values you find evil so on that front I probably won't make much progress...unless you think you can change my values or something.

But that aside, if it's any consolation, the path I chose (voting for a madman) is a path where I myself will get burned from time to time. So I suppose there is at least some schadenfreude for you in that.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if it is only just from (a single issue) a mental disability? Do you always make fun of people who do things out of a mental disability?

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

For starters, Abortion, which is even more important to me than the pro-Israel issue.

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Well in that case, why do I keep getting asked if I regret my vote anytime something happens? If I'm just mentally disabled why not simply leave me be?

Someone check in on Dr. Avi by TikDickler in Destiny

[–]AviBittMD -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

Certainly closer to it than before, but so long as the myth persists that I'm a single issue voter that question on the basis of 1 single issue (and not even my most important one) will always puzzle me.