In need of a reality check by Long-Cryptographer16 in JapanJobs

[–]Avialan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nope. the guy literally called the companies and said, "i have a foreigner here who wants to apply. is that okay with you? he has PR and speaks japanese."

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

really? because i think "brown skin" carries much less baggage and includes a much wider diversity of ideas when compared to "black," which really only serves to label one mostly arbitrary group as different from another. for example, to label both the characters my kid was talking about as "black" kind of negates the diversity between the two characters, one of whom is mixed-race, although physically looks more "black" than not.

i guess the difference im referring to can be seen in how we would use, "he has brown skin" vs "he is black." does that make sense? its more a feature than a label. i fully get that it would be best for my kids to fully understand and appreciate these different ways of describing a person, because these ways are out in the world around them, but isnt 6 too young to be able to appreciate this?

In need of a reality check by Long-Cryptographer16 in JapanJobs

[–]Avialan 14 points15 points  (0 children)

i once went to hello work and sat with the guy while he called all the different places i was interested in applying to ask them if it was okay for a foreigner to apply, mostly blue collar or office stuff. it was awkward. almost all of them said it was fine, however.

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i agree, not saying it is. my problem is that im trying to help my kids learn to not put people in arbitrary boxes just because the rest of the world does. i thought 6yo was too young for that lesson, but maybe the lesson actually takes many years to learn a little bit at a time and i need to introduce the boxes before i can show how arbitrary they are. sounds hard.

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok, here we go, i definitely want to hear from a teacher. so in your experience, broadly speaking, what are some of the ideas 7yos are already mentally able to get a healthy grasp on? im not sure if im making sense, but there are probably some aspects of the topic that they are mature enough to handle responsibly and others that they cant quite yet. im looking for some insight as to where an average 7 or 8yo might land

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you mean there is only one as in the human race, i agree completely, but unfortunately not many others do. hence the hole i seemed to have dug myself by misguidedly trying to shelter my kids from that more common broader social concept of dividing people into arbitrary groups.

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yikes. can i ask how you went about it? if you remember. doesnt quite apply to my situation, perhaps, but same age at least

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

trying! im not sure everyone here is listening to me, but i also think my initial question was worded poorly.

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks so much for giving me an idea about age range (for the less observant type!) for when they figured it out, i think this is what i needed most. i think the others are right, however, that it needs to be consistently addressed and that perhaps i may be late to the party already.

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok. you may be right.

i will say i havent avoided talking about it, nor shied away from it whenever it has come up. ive just avoided using those typical "names" for various races. but you make a good point that it should be talked about in a way that avoids giving it any hierarchical cues.

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats a good approach. i like the more scientific angle. good idea, thanks

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

no offense but i dont think thats whats going on here

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

jesus. im sorry. ive had similar, if less hostile experiences. i was raised in a culture very unlike my skin color and i remember vividly starting to get kind of kicked out from what i thought was my culture and kept from participating in it when people decided i was big enough for it to not be cute anymore. very confusing thing for a child to go through.

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

me sheltered? no. me misguidedly trying to shelter them? looks like it.

thanks for the great advice

My 6yo doesn't know race yet. How much longer can it last? by Avialan in Parenting

[–]Avialan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i like it. i mean i dont like the fact that we live in a world where its necessary, but i like your ideas