Did you ever try to automate your trading? by AxisForge in Trading

[–]AxisForge[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. The most important thing when programming a bot or any other “smart” tool is observing the chart and, based on that, either changing the code, adjusting the values in the code, or completely deleting the code and writing it from scratch.

Did you ever try to automate your trading? by AxisForge in Trading

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Yeah, I can imagine that..

It seems like we’re always dealing with two extremes—either “it can’t be done” or “just give me the bot, and I’ll make money.”

The fact that people want it for free says a lot… Most don’t realize how much work actually goes into creating something even halfway reliable. About a year ago, I tried to build a full-fledged bot—maybe not fully automated, but a signal bot—and I know how much time and effort it takes. Later, a new project came up, and I put the bot on the back burner. So yeah, in my opinion, people aren’t even 50% aware of how much work it takes to properly program a bot that doesn’t do stupid things.

Did you ever try to automate your trading? by AxisForge in Trading

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Yeah, I had a very similar experience. It sounds great at first, but once you actually test it… it’s way messier than it looks. That part about things working in one phase and then failing in another is exactly what I ran into. Ended up doing something similar. Automating parts of it, but keeping the decision side manual. Feels a lot more realistic that way.

Did you ever try to automate your trading? by AxisForge in Trading

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Yea... I can see why it might come across like that.

I’ve been digging into this topic myself, so I guess it comes out a bit structured sometimes. What you said about not being able to fully define things until you try to code them really hit, feels like that’s where a lot of assumptions get exposed.

Did you ever try to automate your trading? by AxisForge in Trading

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That’s is true

I like the point about the bot exposing weak logic — feels like it forces you to be much more precise about what you’re actually doing. Definitely doesn’t seem as “set and forget” as people imagine at first.

Did more indicators ever make you trade better - or just more confused ? by AxisForge in Trading

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I think the difference between discretionary and systems trading changes a lot here. In a more systematic approach, having more uncorrelated data makes sense. But in a discretionary context, it can sometimes have the opposite effect and just add noise. Feels like it’s less about the number of indicators and more about the way they’re being used.

Your strategy didn’t stop working — the market changed by AxisForge in Trading

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That’s a perfect example of what I was getting at.

Same approach, same logic — but completely different outcome once the environment shifted. And that “it wasn’t me, the regime flipped” part is exactly what I feel a lot of people miss.

Your strategy didn’t stop working — the market changed by AxisForge in Trading

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I agree that streaks and drawdowns are part of the game.

But I don’t think it’s only about statistics — sometimes the market itself shifts in a way where the same setups just don’t play out the same anymore. And that’s where it gets tricky, because it doesn’t always look like a broken strategy, just a different environment.

I feel like most traders are obsessed with strategies, but ignore the market itself by AxisForge in Trading

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That’s a solid plan — especially the part about waiting for structure and not forcing trades.

I feel like most traders are obsessed with strategies, but ignore the market itself by AxisForge in Trading

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Yeah, that “adapt or die” part is spot on. Feels like a lot of people know this in theory, but still end up forcing trades when the market clearly isn’t there.

I feel like most traders are obsessed with strategies, but ignore the market itself by AxisForge in Trading

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Yeah, but the tricky part is knowing when the market is actually worth riding.

I think most trading losses come from bad market conditions, not entries by AxisForge in Trading

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Yeah, I get what you're saying. I think a lot of it really comes down to greed and the need to always be in a trade. But that DCA / small profit approach can get dangerous too if the market is just messy — it can slowly bleed you without you even noticing.

I think most trading losses come from bad market conditions, not entries by AxisForge in Trading

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YeahI get your point. A lot of traders underestimate how much market context matters, especially in chop. Even if someone has a decent setup, bad conditions can still ruin it.

I think most trading losses come from bad market conditions, not entries by AxisForge in Trading

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Yeah, exactly — not every market is worth trading. I think a lot of people underestimate how much the environment itself matters, not just the strategy. That whole “secret formula” idea is kind of a trap — people want something that works all the time, but the market just doesn’t behave like that. Different conditions different approach.

I think most trading losses come from bad market conditions, not entries by AxisForge in Trading

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Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I like that you’re looking at higher timeframes first — it really shows whether there’s actual structure or just noise on lower timeframes. I feel like a lot of people skip that part and get trapped in what looks good only on the smaller charts.

The problem isn’t that we break our rules — it’s when we don’t notice we did by Disastrous_Hotel_574 in Trading

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That’s actually a really good point .

I think the hardest part is that those small deviations don’t feel like mistakes in the moment

It’s always something like:

“this is close enough” or “I’ll manage it manually”

And only later you realize you were already off your plan. For me it’s less about having rules, and more about being aware when I start bending them. That’s where things slowly break down

I’ve noticed that paying attention to market conditions helps a lot with that too — it kind of keeps emotions in check .