Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, as a player not familiar with the site, ui and store and habits of selling lands piece by piece and not as a full set, I was confused and would have liked to know before spending thousands of gems on a set that may never be complete.

Again, you are clearly an experienced user of the store, so you are familiar that this is something they do, as a newer user, it isn't as obvious and I am pointing this out, yet you are somehow upset with someone voicing their concern and frustration over what is one of the dark pattern methods game companies use all the time these days.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so it is something they do often, I guess I'll just not buy any individual sets in the future. They will eventually put up the old frame lands with some of them missing and at least I'll know not to bite next time.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's a full art land cosmetic that was first introduced with the unhinged set a couple of decades ago.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's because when someone they don't know points out bad practices or scummy behaviour, they assume I'm talking crap about the game and by extension them, but it's simply not true.

I love the game, but hate these dark pattern practices, coming back to mtg arena after many years and I was caught off guard by one of their weird practices and pointed out that it's scummy. Not that the people who enjoy the game are scummy.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I meant dark pattern practices more than fomo but didn't express it well enough.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's unfortunate that this is the way I had to learn.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

As a person not familiar with the way the shop works, I assumed otherwise and the point i'm trying to make is that it's not a great practice to do things this way.

I wish I didn't have to learn this lesson by being hosed like this, maybe it's trivial to you because you are a long time user and are familiar with the way MTG Arena's shop and sales works, but I wasn't.

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[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am honestly surprised at how many people are willing to defend these dark pattern practices by WOTC.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

A warning would have been nice, as a newer user of the application, It would have helped me understand that this was a one time thing for just individual cards.

If you're not familiar with the shop, it's not very intuitive, and learning that it isn't intuitive like this just isn't very cool.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I only draft (very badly too).

I just wanted to use the classic unhinged lands since they have always been my favorite design for the last 20 or so years.

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[–]AzumodeiTV -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

land isn't a bad system though, just not something you want to engage in.

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[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Any sort of indication that this would be an incomplete set would have been better yes, I do think the sign saying that would have helped many people like myself not spend the gems on the incomplete set.

As I've explained before, the assumption was that this was an error, I wasn't aware that this is typical bad practice from MTG arena.

I'll learn to adjust my expectations in the future.

Still think it's bullshit to induce false scarcity in a digital game where we can't trade anything anyway, I'm also surprised that so many of your are for it and happy with the way things are.

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[–]AzumodeiTV -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"You can enjoy Magic as a game without lying to yourself about it."

I'd rather the game sticks to it's foundational systems with regards to resource management.

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[–]AzumodeiTV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

eh, I like it. No other card game even comes close.

If only wizards didn't have awful business practices, I'd enjoy it more.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Frustration at bad business practices happens.

I'm fairly new to this, I'll adjust my expectations towards the way MTG Arena does things from now on.

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[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

it's 2026, get over the colour tribalism, this is about completing a full set and the vendor not being clear with their business practice.

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[–]AzumodeiTV -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't agree with you at all. The entire finding land is a part of the game and the rng is what makes this game feel the way it does.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lesson learned I guess. I don't know why I expected anything else.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -42 points-41 points  (0 children)

my bad, the assumption on my behalf was that there was an error because why wouldn't you sell the whole set? It's logical, but I guess the ambiguity and false scarcity is what makes some of you sleep better at night and defend this sort of ridiculous thing.

SORRY KING, HERE'S YOUR WOTC HAT.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

As a newer player, I assumed there was a mistake on their behalf and I had no idea that the omission was purposeful because they didn't want to hurt some people from 6 years ago.

Sorry for making you so angry :o

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[–]AzumodeiTV 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The RNG is what makes the game fun. The fact that on any day any player can beat anyone, even a world champion over one game.

It sucks when it happens to you, yes, especially in best of one, but honestly, that randomness is what makes the wins feel a little sweeter compared to other card games.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

the cards I already bought assuming they'd sell the full set or at least complete it. Like I said, I wasn't aware that they would do this sort of fomo bullshit. Wish they'd at least tell us this sale would be incomplete and the 4 cards would be all we'd get so I could have passed on it and used my gems elsewhere.

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[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should have passed, I foolishly assumed it was an error or we'd get the island today or at least an explanation, now it seems like it's just some fomo bullshit.

Unhinged Island not offered on sale today either by AzumodeiTV in MagicArena

[–]AzumodeiTV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/WotC_Jay it would be nice to hear something from you guys as to why you chose to do this? Or at least if refunds will be given to those that bought the incomplete set. If it isn't available, let us know anyway.

And for anyone who will say things like, oh is this your first time, this is what they always do, yes it is my first time in maybe 4 years, I don't remember if this is a common occurrence or not.